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/fraud/ - holy crap stop asking about your retarded oral only cycles edition v4

Read all of reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki before asking your absolutely retarded questions. no exceptions.

If you must ask your absolutely retarded questions, include your age, height, weight, bodyfat percentage, and time spent training as a preface.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK.

previously on "testosterone is a meme bro":

steroids are for manlet faggots

>tfw I'm a chemist and have recently started lifting seriously

to what extent do you think I should apply my skills within this field?
I could definitely synthesize various compounds, and all kinds of purity testing.
equipment and precursors are a formality

Make new super sturrods and test them on yourself.

Make a steroid to get a gf

you think you're gonna brew and purity test steroids at your workplace?

Probably nothing.

Unless you're willing wager life in jail you'll never produce benefit greater than what you can earn as a chemist.

Do you brahs take any preworkouts on cycle? About to take some dmaa, caffeine, yohimbine and ephedrine. Stims city bruh

usual caff+eph combination brah

I do see some possibility to enhance the binding affinity of tren on the androgen receptors (make it stronger)

I have plenty of equipment at home. I have a small business on the side that enables me to acquire all kinds of chemicals and equipment. there's no real need to do it in my regular workplace.

for personal use, I would feel better injecting something that I know is 100% legit though

alright faggots, i am that kind that has been randomly injecting test and I am going to try and get on the right track.

So I think I got test flu from my last 500mg injection because it was too close to my 375mg injection a few days before that. I confused this with high AI symptoms so I took way too much Aromasin which made me even more sick. But I feel good today.

So I am going to switch to a 2x250mg E3.5D cycle and salvage this. My last shot was on Friday of the 500mg. When should I do my next 250? Or should I just say fuck it and continue yoloing my 500mg/once a week?

no, do 2x 250mg.

Pin on mondays and thursdays

>Dimethandrolone is trestolone but with an 11b-methyl group. The only production steroid with that group is Halotestin. The 11b-methyl group makes it unable to aromatize, and further increases its power in just about every aspect. It's literally a stronger trest that can't aromatize and still isn't liver toxic. Dosing would likely be around 5 or 10mg per day. It's also being researched as a male contraceptive like trestolone is. On paper it's the god steroid.

PLS

Dimethandrolone, not to be confused with dimethylnandrolone

That sounds like fucking magic. There has to be a major catch.

get on a fucking schedule and stick to it you mong

don't be mean lanklet faggots like me do roids too

alright, so ill start tomorrow then i guess

I have a question for all you roided up motherfuckers;

>When did you start pinning?
>If you started early, have you had any ill effects?
>What's the earliest you could hop on and not permanently fuck yourself?

The catch is it probably will not replace test, so youd probably still need a trt dose of test, not so much of a problem for us though.

you are a fucking retard if you are going to use trestolone, a novel research chemical, to replace the primary sexual hormone in your body. fuck i hate you redditors

That's not a catch. That's a given.

It probably has some turbo progestogenic effects.
It literally sounds too good to be true.

Not sure where you got any of that from.

Learn to read.

Progestins dont affect me that much, but estrogens do.

Dbol 20mg - fucks my shit up. Adrol 100mg ED - no sides, feel good, no rise in bp.

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK. I've managed to fuck my left elbow in the middle of a cycle. Everywhere on the web it says 4-6 weeks. I can't wait that long. Hopefully it'll be back to normal in a week.

Sorry, it was an autistic outburst. I am just tired of reading about people hyping Trestolone for it's effects as a test replacement

Brah, it didn't hit me like I thought it would. I have been drinking lots of coffee recently though.

tfw arms as big as your legs

can i solve this fuck up somehow?

>roast me all you want but atleast leave some tips

I havent tried trest, its estro probably is too much for me without letro.

I stopped shooting test 8 weeks ago to let the "gyno" fuck off (700mg), took a bit of nolva to help with it, but still took adrol then some tbol then back on adrol in the mean time and Ive felt pretty normal.. guess I should get back on it now though.

I wouldn't bother with trestolone aka ment. My sauce had it a few years back and one of my brahs used it. Said injections were painful as fuck and it sent his estrogen into hyperspace, even though he was taking adequate doses of aromasin.. Said it increased his sex drive and caused him to hump ugly women too.

>fuck i hate you redditors
lmao are you '500mg test / wk is going to kill everyone because i anecdotally am a genetic faggot who can't handle it' guy from yesterday?

don't think so buddy. i upped my dose to a gram on the third week of my first cycle

Is it fine to take Adderall with test?

Yes

What steroid will make your face leaner? Can you take it with test and still get leaner without your face being as bloated?

Well then, that sounds like the kind of reckless disregard I like to hear. Too bad, I want that guy to come back, he was fun to poke at.

>Estrogen in hyperspace
>Asin was adequate
Pick one lel
Letro is probably needed followed by Asin to main or asin + micro dose of let etc.

There's Trest D and E now. One of those or both are liquid in raw form and don't require high solvent, pip is better than A. Anyway I was talking about a non-aromatiseable derivative.

started pinning at 8 in east germany
no ill effects unless you count being communist and dying at 40
i recommend similac every four hours and 500mg test EOD from about age 4 months

I meant adequate in regards to using other steroids.He should have probably increased his asin dosage, but I personally wouldn't bother with something that aromatizes that much.

dont skip leg day?

The whole "fucking yourself up" thing is a complete meme. Your body will return to homeostasis no matter what the fuck you try to do to it. The main variable is going to be age. If you're 40 years old and been blasting for 10+ years, then you don't have the advantage of being young to help you aid in recovery. If you're 23 and been blasting since 15, you can come off and recover just fine. You just need time. You'll be miserable, but you'll recover.

Has anyone used the dnp from the fertilizer website recently?

I'm a bit into a cycle right now and I'm 90% sure this shit is bunk
Not my first time on dnp and the sides this time are essentially non-existent even at 400mg

up the dose :^)

Looking back how do you think steroids have affected you psychologically? Any mental sides?

Seriously, stop fucking with dnp, that shit is poison

Are you taking gear to look like that?

Pussy

Do you not feel fatigued when you take dnp?

Literally none

Steroids are a meme

>I don't understand basic chemistry

I usually do but it's not happening this time and I'm wondering if it's a bad batch or if the company is sending out bunk to everyone

Make tren but instead of being built on nor-testosterone its built on nor-DHT

>Just started seriously lifting
>Want to start brewing steroids for personal use
You could apply your skills to absorbing the info in the sticky and training until you have some idea what gains you can get naturally.

tfw too intelligent to read the sticky

no but i figured you guys would have the best knowledge about stuff on this dumb ass website

very interesting. I'll look into this.

I hit 1/2/3/4 last year. serious lifting = actual proper programming

I have 5 days left out of 19 in this DNP cycle, and I lost 19lbs so far.

Problem is that I'm on a steep deficit and I'm craving food pretty badly.

How long after the DNP is out until I can eat at a bulk again?

How big of a caloric deficit can I be on during a cutting cycle while keeping muscle mass from bulk?

Never go beneath 1500 calories even with a spotless diet.

Dont push ligament injuries for a blast.
Trust me

10x20 leg press

Look up pmsf

Guys please this is getting bad. I want to eat so badly but I've never been this lean before and I want to keep a good chunk of it

>Dont push ligament injuries for a blast.

It doesn't seem like a bad case of a tennis elbow, though. After some stretching, I can move my elbow up and down and to towards my body now with a small pain when I move it to the outside of my body. I will take a week break and then get back to working, but with low weights and high rep with elbow support.

I'm icing it everyday.

I guess this is what happens when your strength goes up too fast..

Just be careful, its easy to make it worse and tendons heal slower on roids

>nobody answers in 15 minutes on a google-able question
>"guys pls"
kys my dude

How quick do you lean out on psmf?

I'm planning on getting fat, maybe that'll dig me out later

>kys
Eventually. Either slowly from roid abuse or suck starting a shotgun pretty soon because I couldn't live up to my ideal self

What's the best test to help me run faster and for longer?

You'll end up like Rich

Finished PCT about 3 months ago. Cycle was 10 weeks of Test E at 350mg

Test is 980ng/dl
Estro is 111ng/dl
LH is sky high
FSH is normal

PCT was Clomid at 25/25/25/25/0
Nolva at 20/20/20/10/10, I was surprised considering I got UGL ancilliaries

Also can any medfags explain what a AST/ALT values double the normal range and a lowish CBC could mean? Im scurred. I got a docs apt soon but peace of mind would be nice

The thickening continues

>Cycle was 10 weeks of Test E at 350mg
can you tell us your results?

The goal was to cut while maintaining size.

I ended up gaining about 10lbs and filling out while getting into single digit body fat % from about 12-11%. I ate at maintinence while occasionally binging after a high volume day.

There are other substances you can take for endurance.
SARMS and the PPTP agonist Cardarine have some endurance boosting properties.

PPARĪ“ agonist*

3-4lbs a week easy

Remember when /fraud/ was fun?

About to start a cut taking 150mcg test e E3.5D and var Ed (20/40, two week off, 40/60, one week off, 60/80).

Should I be pre-emptive taking aromasin E3.5D from the start or wait til bloodwork shows or signs of est show?

>150mcg
>mcg

Those were the days

It was fun before all the actually good trips (aka not me) got run off to their discord by fucktards asking daily about AI dosing every three seconds like this mong - like fucking sticky in the OP, hold your own hand

Libido has totally gone guys. Was fuckin my fwb over weekend and couldn't stay hard. Is there something I can do for next weekend? UK if that helps. Already jumped back on test/tren/mast at 100/50/50 ed and started anavar back up

Just got over this myself - what were you running, when did you go off, etc etc?

Yeah,i survived clen+test+speed

Test and EQ, which I believe EQ to be the culprit as it happened before but was newer to gear back then so never made the link.

Currently dropped EQ 2 weeks ago then went from test e eod to e3.5d

How'd you end up fixing yours mate?

Has anyone ever had experience with SP laboratories test e ?

It was like i wasn't even injecting for 4 weeks but now i also started using dbol a week ago so can't really distignuish where the gains are from

any help?when does test e work for you?

10lbs gain while dropping fat while eating at maintnence and only 350mg/ week? I never did this so i don't know but that sounds too good to be true

2 weeks into my tren/test cycle. About to throw in some dbol. Pray to the gyno gods for my safe passage brahs

>currently 5weeks in on babby's first 500mg/week test e cycle, 25g 1" needle
>switching between L / R vgs each pin
>tried upper dorsoglute - bad asf pip and test flu
>tried upper outer quad - was limping for whole week
Can any of you more experienced anons give any tips to reduce or eliminate pip or improve inj technique

4-5 weeks is when most people start to notice, you should've used dbol at the beginning to kickstart

Hmm never run EQ so I'm not too sure! Mine died when I ran some """""mast prop""""" that I'm not too sure about while dropping to cruise dose of test e. Limp dick city, no sex drive whatsoever, didn't give two shits about girls (including my fiancee, much to her joy). I dropped the mast (which has to have been bunk), upped test to 500 mg / wk again for the time being, and ran 1.5 g maca ED, 50 mg zinc ED, saw palmetto & ginseng prostate support ED, and also dropped my super high stim preworkout. I was also taking a lot of psuedoephedrine which apparently is a big sex drive killer.

I then dosed cialis daily at a low dose to force my dick into working, and once I got a few good lays back under my belt and knew my dick would work I've dropped it as well. Dick and libido back in action! Not sure which was the magic bullet.

I see

Now that i used it at the peak of test e what will happen?

Nothing negative, just keep your estro in check, because between the two it can get real out of hand. You'll still get the benefits of dbol, most people just kickstart with it in order to get effects faster vs waiting weeks.

I see,i'll probably notice sudden gains(hope so)

>Source stopped responding when I mentioned missing stuff
GIVE ME MY GAINS YOU GOBLIN
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Im about to do the same cycle for a strength focus bulk. What are your doses looking like?

Is running high test a meme? I dropped to 200mg test compared to last times 500mg with 600mg Tren respectively.

No sides, feel great, look great, gain better then ever.
No gyno problems, estro issues, everything is comfy af.

Is it wise to stick to adding dry compounds to a blast and just flip the finger to high test doses?

it means you also used orals or you drink like an Irishman

yes unless you're one of those lucky fuckers who doesn't get high estro sides

trt test + other compounds is goat

High estro is the worst. I'll be avoiding any highly converting compounds in the future.
Fuck reverting gyno.

low test high tren is common sense from what i read in various forums.

I even heard high test lowers high tren efficiency

Is there anything I can run to help my wrists from my bench growing so fast

I asked this ugly tranny how she had chest hair from taking roids and she said her HRT was nothing like roids

Wtf did she take

I want chest hair

Wrist wraps

Test and Tren fight for the same receptors.
Tren wins since its the stronger compound but test still takes some.

I'm tempted to drop the test entirely but that feels like a recipe for disaster.

I've got this all from bro science forums but they all agree on the low test high tren thing and the science behind it.

Is this a good syringe pack to buy? Where can I buy good accurate ones? Walgreens CVS etc.

Also should I take an AI for my first cycle? I've been hearing otherwise but then again idk