>tries to become a Colonial Empire in the middle of the Cold War
what the fuck was he thinking?
>tries to become a Colonial Empire in the middle of the Cold War
what the fuck was he thinking?
A man who gave no fucks.
colonies? i think you mean provinces that just happen to be overseas
Portugal had some of those areas since the 1400's. He didn't try to become an empire, he inherited it.
> tries to become
yeah but he was the one who really started colonial policies in Angola
so much money wasted only for it to indirectly cause the fall of Estado Novo, poetic really
No they had the coast since the 1400's and took over the interior in the late 1800's before Salazar.
>>tries to become a Colonial Empire
yeah but they hadn't done anything with it, Colonization only really started with Colonial Act of 1930
the question is why didn't he decolonize like all the other European nations in the 50's?
Why would he. The other powers de colonized because WW2 fucked them up and they didn't have the men to hold those areas. Many of them were also obsolete, grabbed up to use as stops for ship to resupply or the resources that were once profitable were no longer profitable. Many colonies were also taken just because they didn't want someone else to get it even if it was useless
>why would he
well for starters, he should've understood the Americans and Soviets wouldn't be okay with it, and also for what purpose? It didn't even give him any prestige anymore
>what the fuck was he thinking?
Literally, "Proudly alone"
Because fuck the USA and/or soviet world police, Portugal is a older country, with land in africa for longer than those two together existed
>goes to Leningrad as an observor because he was a Wermachtboo
>asks Salazar to allow him to fight in the colonial war
>is so well respected by the natives that his made governor of Cape Verde
>sides with the revolutionaries during the Carnation revolution
>becomes president
>seemed to genuinely believe that some colonies would want to stay if Portugal was a democratic unitary state
>fears that the communists are taking too much power
>arranges for a another revolution to pull politics back to the right but fails
>is exiled as an enemy of democracy
>manages to be honored as an hero for democracy later
Was it schizophrenia?
JAGG
SBARRO
He was played by the commies, most of the revolutionary army was comunist or socialist from the start
rest in peace meu presidente
probably just not very smart
Pretty sure the U.S backed his regime until his death
then you're wrong, the US backed the Revolutionaries
When?
during the colonial wars
Starting in what year
en.wikipedia.org
>The United States supported the Union of Peoples of Angola (UPA - União dos Povos de Angola), headed by Holden Roberto
>According to historical researchers like José Freire Antunes, U.S. President John F. Kennedy[25] sent a message to President António de Oliveira Salazar advising Portugal to abandon its African colonies shortly after the outbreak of violence in 1961.
>Laughs in Kissinger
During Kennedy´s presidency when he started meeting with the leaders of the terrorist squads
Doesn't surprise me. Kennedy was a shitty president
>muh kennedy
Can't believe one prez caused this much long-lasting butthurt without even completing one mandate.
He started a lot of bullshit that affects the country to this day and is raised to demi god status by democrats
what's amazing about Kennedy is that right wingers like him too, being killed really helps your legacy desu
Right wingers don't really like him. He's nuetral to bad to them. Kennedy is well liked by normal people because he raised the army's pay twice, in a society with a national draft.
He did went against the CIA tho
Yeah because he and his family were crooks. Everytime you import whiskey into the U.S the Kennedy family gets the tariffs on it. That's where their wealth today comes from
Pretty sure the USA is older than Portugal
Nearlybitmytongue.
The Kingdom of Portugal was estabilished in the 12th century. The Republic followed seemlessly. The continental borders have been basically unchanged for several centuries.
>american education
>Kingdom from 900 years ago is the same nation today
Top kek. I love it when retards think this
It had political continuity and territorial integrity.
What else is there? Is the USA a different country everytime it adds a state?
Why
If a guy living in Portugal from the 12th century was suddenly brought to the present, he would find it unrecognizable. The men would be more swarthy. The laws would be 100% different. His religion is suddenly obsolete.
He might recognize some places. But to him, you’re a foreigner living on top of his dead kingdom
There’s a point where your ancestors stop becoming relatable, and when that happens, it’s safe to say it’s a completely different country
Portugal as we know it is younger than the USA. It’s hard for a European to admit. That’s just the way it is.
No but Portugal ceased to exist for like 70 years after their king died like a retard against the Moroccans. Plus the change to being a republic is a massive change of government.
>literal dictator allowed into proto-EU
How
So a jamestowner wouldn’t be surprised black people and whites were still so seperated when the one time they united they overthrew their masters
No, it didn't cease to exist. Portugal and Spain were two different kingdoms that shared a monarch.
>Colonial Jamestown
>USA
Europoor education, everyone.
He was one of the founders, that is how.
And he was very anti-communist. NATO was about that first, liberal democracy wasn't the point.
Sorry I forgot USA started when the Olmecs became the Pochantos settling Far East of the missippi river
They USA officially started in 1783, dumbfuck. No wonder you think modern Portugal extends back so far. Since then, the governmental system of the USA has been fundamentally the same. The same cannot be said about most European nations and their medieval counterparts.
It’s like a Catholic Italian calling himself Roman. Or a Muslim Iraqi calling himself Aryan. You just look like an idiot.
For Europeans, only Poland and the Netherlands I believe have an older government system than the USA.
>Poland
>which is occupied in 1776
>Netherlands
>which has an absolutist streak and gained lands
I would have loved to be there to tell the Dutch you have to let these Catholics go, as that is how you were let go
>implying it's not
American education in its finest form
>Poland
>The USA is the same country after changes like those after the great depression or 9/11
Notice they key word: “fundamentally”. Congress, President, Constitution, Supreme Court, House of Represenatives, etc. while their roles wane and wax, their purpose remains virtually unchanged since 1776
You can’t do that kind of comparison with 12th century Portugal & 2018 Portugal
But, now I realize you’re just grasping at straws. It’s a hard pill for Europeans to swallow. Especially nations like Greece.
You can´t do that comparisson for countries in the last 50 years you retard, countries aren´t only born out of a governament they are often born from blood bounds like it is the case in much of europe
>The Constitution of 3 May 1791 was adopted by the Great Sejm (parliament) of the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth. The 3 May Constitution is to the second constitution in world history. The 1787 U.S. Constitution was actually the first governmental constitution introducing the clear division of the executive, legislative and judiciary powers, accordingly with the legal and philosophical values influential in the Enlightenment.
...
ah fuck me
>countries are born from blood!!!1
Here’s where you blood & soil retards always fail:
If someone alive in 13th century England, from the batttle of agincourt, were brought back to the modern England, do you think they would honestly consider themselves citizens?
They’d see thousands of chink tourist laughing and giggling inside Westminster. They’d wonder what the fuck the Anglican Church is. What the fuck is a Prime Minister. Why is the mayor of London a Muslim. Why do we have an alliance with France.
Nothing about you and him are similar. When you’re so different, how far back are you willing to go, so that you can role play your blood & soil fantasy?
so Portugal is only 50 years old, this is what you unironically believe?
Inside Russia and seperated from Piast polamd
bring an American from 1776 and he won't recognize the Nation at all, that goes for pretty much any country that has existed for more than 100 years, what a retarded take
Well the interior is only 50 years old whilst the coast was the last known existence of the carthaginians circa 250BCE
didn't get it
holy shit the retardation is big in this one
so if those are your standarts than the interior has existed since pre historic times in the peninsula too, wich it has but you are so retarded you say it wasn´t
>muh Lajes airfield
That was Franco
i'm democrat and i think he is ridiculously overrated. of course that's not the consensus, but if people actually read they'd probably come to the same conclusion
Considering the only important event in Kennedies term was the Cuban Missile Crisis. It's hardly a surprise that he is as well-received as he is.
He also got us deeply involved in Vietnam
Common Core has truly devastated an entire country
Why are Americans such petty dickheads? Is it some kind of historical inferiority complex?
You guys are just soft sissies.
Bring an American from the 1800's back and see what he thinks about chinks niggers and spics almost being a majority of his former mostly WASP country
it was Salazar as well
Iraqis don't claim to be Persian other than actual Iraqi Persians you Retard
they claim Babylon Assyria And Sumerian societies
Chinks, Niggers, and Spics were pretty foundational for the whole "west" thing. And niggers had been a thing for awhile in the colonies.
Early 1800's, they'd probably be surprised by the chinese and the sharp advance westward.
In the middle 1800's and beyond, they probably wouldn't be too surprised about the ethnographic or geographic makeup of the US.
I'm not the user you replied too. I'm just throwing this information out there.
>goes to Leningrad as an observor because he was a Wermachtboo
Humberto Delgado was also a Nazi during World War 2. He only became pro-democracy when he was sent to America
>prussia oriental
>Iberian gallantry
Are people seriously taking the amerimutt bait? Holy shit.
Embarrasing post
>the absolute fucking state of Veeky Forums
Delete this borad Hiro, it's nothing but trash.
>ywn live in the timeline of /pol/gbt where Franco has a gay baby with Salizar uniting the crowns once more
>allemagne
STOP THIS MEMERY
>supporting a faggot that stole power from his rightful king
>supporting another faggot that refused to adapt with the times and is now the reason we have commies in power in all his old lands, Portugal included
Cringe
>a nation where blacks were considered subhumans not allowed to vote, where nazi germany was influenced by your eugenics policies, would be okay with white people being a minority
fucking kek
>when the radical centrism meme goes too far
youtube.com
>Not resisting bigger powers
Thats how you become weak, and indeed Portugal became weak as soon we lost the will to fight the big boys
>You guys are just soft sissies.
Talking in second person are we?
To the obviously american poster who thinks Portugal is less than 50 years old.
yeah I don't think he's being serious amigo