When did you realize that lifting had nothing to do with being an athlete?

these are the old farts in the gym bragging about their 4pl8 bench in their youth

That's kind of what I mean. His technique is so bad that, despite all the arse-raising and bouncing, he'd in all likelihood bench more if he benched like a powerlifter. Dude's losing so much fucking strength to a lack of tension it isn't funny.

why do you fuckers always get off topic so easily

Sources please ? Oh don't got any, oh right because you're wrong

>implying gymnasts don't lift their own bodies
nice try, boyo

Sources for what? Common knowledge? Soccer players have open workouts you can watch. Wrestling/Boxing, just go to a gym and look. Gymnasts, too. Usain Bolt talks about it all the time. There's even a YT vid where he "lifts" (light weight, 10-15 reps, bullshit form).

>Best soccer player ever

fix'd

>gymnasts don't lift.
What is the maltese or victorian?

long time ago

I lift to look and feel better

generally straight lifting is bad for athletes, basically puts on unusable muscle that slows them down. a fighter doesn't improve technique or their strength/flexibility in the necessary places by lifting.