Was he really as bad as they say he was?

Was he really as bad as they say he was?

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He was pretty fucking bad. I am a communist myself and can admit that.

Holodomor wasn't intentional but it should have been

Trotksy would have been worse.

How?

Not really. He would have started industrializing sooner, instead of trying to do a "5 year plan in 3 years" resulting in laws carnage.
His actions lacked principle. When his power was challenged by the left opposition he supported the NEP men who gave power to capitalists. When those capitalists challenged his power he stole the left opposition plans, claimed they were his, and completely bastardized them.

Sorry I meant *mass carnage*.

Nah he would have drained resources in foreign adventurism and eventually get BTFO. Then the party would have fractured into a million warring factions llike every trotskyite organizations.

Evidence for this ? Killing counter-revolutionaries is no biggie...

He is the ultimate protagonist of history.

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>When those capitalists challenged his power he stole the left opposition plans, claimed they were his, and completely bastardized them.

???

>muh Sino Soviet split
>implying that the Stalinists and Maoists split wasn't the worst in history

Michael Jackson bad maybe

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Evidence for what? Trotsky said openly the 5 year plan should have started in 1925.

>When his power was challenged by the left opposition he supported the NEP men who gave power to capitalists. When those capitalists challenged his power he stole the left opposition plans, claimed they were his, and completely bastardized them.
evidence for this

He literally did nothing wrong

He was really good as I was saying

Stalin was the one who supported invading Poland, twice, leading to two military disasters. Trotsky supported giving resources to world communist parties, along with Lenin, whom co founded the comintern in 1918, using precious resources on during the civil war. Stalin supported giving arms and training to the Republican side in the Spanish civil war, to the KMT in China, and trading with Nazi germany. All of these governments were objectively anti communist.

>Stalin supported giving arms and training to the Republican side in the Spanish civil war,

To stop the fascists.

>to stop the fascists
not an argument, better than anarchism

I'm paraphrasing him here but in 1923 he said that industrialization was a pipe dream, despite the fact that production was at pre war levels. He said the NEP should be continued for many more years, maybe even decades. He took a complete zig zag, saying in 1928,
>There are people who think that individual farms have exhausted their usefulness, that we should not support them ... These people have nothing in common with the line of our party.”
The first 5 year plan started within the next year, with projected 20-30% growth rates.

The dominant liberals in the Republican side was still against communism. When workers started organizing communes the CP of Spain actively thwarted them and tortured many of the leaders to death.

Trotsky would have been better for Russia but worse for the world. The guy wouldn’t rest until he finished painting Europe red.

A communist, like Stalin, wouldn't want a fascist regime in power
>people changing opinion
So?

>When workers started organizing communes the CP of Spain actively thwarted them and tortured many of the leaders to death.
yes because everyone wants to hurt the little guy right? you must be an anarchist writing this

>changing your opinion after purging and murdering earlier adherents of said opinion

Who did he purge and murder?

T. Manuel Azana

My bad, all of that happened after he changed his opinion. Regardless It's bad.

Purging counter revolutionaries isn't really bad, it's logical

How was Trotsky a counter revolutionary? If anything the people who supported the Kulaks through the 1920s, i.e. Stalin and Bukharin, were counter revolutionaries. Stalin simply overcompensated later on for the purpose of staying in power.

marxists.org/archive/olgin/1935/trotskyism/index.htm

read this

>ash bin of history

Thank God.

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>accuse Trotsky of being a fascist
>sign a non aggression pact and partition Poland with actual fascists
>????????
>profit.

>accuse Trotsky of being a fascist
The do this
>Conservative social policies were promoted to enhance social discipline and boost population growth; this included a focus on strong family units and motherhood, the re-criminalisation of homosexuality, restrictions placed on abortion and divorce, and the abolition of theZhenotdelwomen's department.[338]

>implying Stalin was the only baddie
Can we all just finally agree that the early USSR was a shitshow full of villains?

Russia needed more people because of the war...

2nd worst human only surpassed by Mao.

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kek

Mao did nothing wrong. Famine was a result of bad weather.

Do russians just have some deep desire to constantly fuck other men? Seriously, what gay russian was going to fuck another dude in the ass but decided against it on count of it's criminalization, what the fuck does criminalizing homosexuality even achieve now?

Read Kim Jong Il

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HAHAH

>bad as...?
Badass

Isn’t this image a meme?

Those slums look comfy as fuck
t. white middle class faggot

Yes, skip to 1:40
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>le based capitalist posting establishment propaganda

No, he was worst.

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A Society has finite resources, even taking into account undiscovered resources or undiscovered usages.

Many cunts, if properly informed, can make better decisions about how to make use of those resources than just a few cunts.

Few cunts will only make decisions in their own interest, at the expense of all the rest of the cunts.

It's the principle of multitudinous cunts.