Holodomor

Was it Jews or did the Alt-Right lie to me?

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Ruskies trying to keep based Ukraine down

It was Jews

Alt-right lied

It was Communists collectivizing land and only targeted a certain class of people rather then a ethnicity or a culture.

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It was a famine brought by collectivisation.

I have no idea how you could come up with the idea that jews had anything to do with it
I assume it’s because they both start with holo and the nazis were able to say “look at the REAL holocaust”
And of course, we’re online, so only one of them could have been real

Bad harvest from natural factors plus intentional starvation and destruction of minorities.

Jews were involved in that the USSR had a large Jewish population and some has risen through the ranks. It was by no means a Jewish undertaking in any sense.

A common /pol/ tactic is to post a catalog of self selected Soviet officials and show they were Jews. Thus the USSR was a Jewish evil? No. It's cherry picking, Stalin and a majority of the people responsible weren't Jewish.

Were Jews overrepresented in the early USSR leadership? Yes. They're also overrepresented in the Tsarist camp. Jews had no unified agenda. Claiming otherwise is like NSA hacking was an Asian plot because they are overrepresented in the NSA and tech field. It's backwards logic.

Stop believing in Holohoaxes

The Holodomor and the Holocaust are both made up bullshit used by the different sides to slander the other. Don't fall for their dumb dichotomous bullshit.
Neither happened.

>Stop believing in Holohoaxes
>The Holodomor and the Holocaust are both made up bullshit used by the different sides to slander the other. Don't fall for their dumb dichotomous bullshit.
>Neither happened.

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>UNGA BUNGA RIGHT MAN BAD BECAUSE HOLOHOLO
>UNGA BUNGA LEFT MAN BAD BECAUSE HOLOHOLO

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>Was it Jews or did the Alt-Right lie to me?
Its was a famine created by collectivism. Kulaks were hoarding grain and the Soviets forcefully seized their farm and created unreachable quotas the proceeded to punish them for no reaching said quotas.

>I have no idea how you could come up with the idea that jews had anything to do with it
While you can't blame the Holodomor on solely Atheist Jews trying to mass murder White Christians, you seriously can't underplay Jewish involvement in Communism. Jews used Communism as a power gain and continue to this day.

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this
they named them the same fucking thing and retards still eat it up

>some has risen through the ranks
The thing with Jews is that not only do they rise through the ranks, they are vastly overrepresented as the highest achieving people in a given field or industry. It's individual people doing everything they can to get ahead just like everyone else and some Jews happen to be the very best which comes with exposure and influence. It's a problem for a host people when Jews do this because the individually powerful Jewish people successful in promoting their ideas by working with other people promoting

Since Jews have their own home land they can return to if things don't work out well in the host nation their interests/values don't necessarily align with those of the host.

>you seriously can't underplay Jewish involvement in Communism. Jews used Communism as a power gain and continue to this day.
Are there any books that support this claim which aren't catalogued as mere anti-semitism by the ADL?

it was the bolsheviks you dumb fuck, why would you believe anyone about anything that is on the far right or left?

Yes and they said the Bolsheviks were under Jewish influence and some were Jews themselves.

>why would you believe anyone about anything that is on the far right or left
Because the establishment is full of shit.

>the establishment is full of shit
And a bunch of strangers on the internet aren't?

Yes there were some jewish bolsheviks, but that's because communism was a political ideology where everyone was equal no matter what, and religion didn't matter at all. The idea that bolshevism was "under jewish influence," whatever the fuck that even means, is completely made up by racists and white nationalists. Stalin was a fucking Georgian, they hate jews and muslims. History is beautiful because no matter what anyone says, there is always something somewhere that can either prove them wrong or right. Look into shit and read books by different HISTORIANS, not whatever bullshit the white nationalists or anti-fa are spewing online. Especially don't come here or another degenerate forum to learn actual history. That's what a school and libraries are for. Fucking hell

Primary Architects of Holodomor:

-Stalin (not Jewish)
-Sergo Ordzhonikidze (not Jewish)
-Vlas Chubar (not Jewish)
-Stanislav Koisor (not Jewish)
-Vyacheslav Menzhinsky (not Jewish)
-Lazar Kaganovich (Jewish)
-Vsevolod Balitsky (not Jewish)
-Mendel Khatayevich (not Jewish)
-Grigory Petrovsky (not Jewish)
-Stanislav Redens (not Jewish)

1 Jew involved in the top tier, therefore it's a 100% Jewish conspiracy clearly

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>Are there any books that support this claim which aren't catalogued as mere anti-semitism by the ADL?
Wow the ADL catalogs everything as anti-semitic. Might as well just use marvel movies as a source

please post more nazbol memes

>Stop believing in Holohoaxes

my grandfather and his family lived through the holodomor in the south west of the soviet union. why would he make up stories about starving? he said soviet soldiers came to every house and confiscated every bit of food they could find as well as all crops from farms. there was a famine and the soviet jews saw it as an opportunity to get rid of people they didnt like.