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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

How comes it took bongs 6 fucking years to take back a fraction of Spain from a second-rate French army not even lead by Napoleon, when the Russians took back all of Europe from the main French army lead by Napoleon in just two years?

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Because your map is distorted, dipshit. Those are roughly equivalent distances.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Because the Russians were rushin'

Bidwell
Bidwell

Zerg rushin'?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The Iberian is longer than the distance between Paris and Moscow.

No.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Because Napoleon was literally retreating and all they did was follow him.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

He's trolling
But even if that had been true in some parallel reality, that still wouldn't be enough to defend Brits as it would mean that, on the same distance, Russians beat the main French army lead by Napoleon in two years while bongs "beat" a second-rate one in six years

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

I'm sure the British would have been absolutely devastated by this knowledge.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Gee, I wonder why an army moves slower across mountains than one without enemy resistance through fucking plains

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Napoleon did commanded the army in Spain when he saw the things were getting a bit uncontrolled

hairygrape
hairygrape

What is the Northern European Plain?

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Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Yeah, but the Brits never faced him as, upon hearing that he was a few kms from them (although he wasn't going after them but against Spaniards in another direction), they threw themselves in a headlong flight that ended with them dunkirking chaotically at Corunna
This is the power of the British army

Flameblow
Flameblow

Mainly because the British are and always have been absolutely shit at warfare, how does this still surprise some people?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

kys

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GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Brits are just way smarter than Ruskies, the map clearly shows that. Fighting a war is an awfully messy affair, best don't do it at home but fight it in a far away country overseas, if you can, chose a place with warm climate, good food, good vino and cheap brown hookers. And when you guys call it a war and need to end the show, just walk the short bit over the Pyrenees deep into the heart of France and score a quick and glorious victory.

The Russians on the other hand let them get invaded, destroyed their own country in a war with shit food, no vino and skinny pale hookers in a freezing hell. then they had to walk all the way to Paris just to find all vino already confiscated by the Brits.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Brits are just way smarter than Ruskies, the map clearly shows that. Fighting a war is an awfully messy affair, best don't do it at home but fight it in a far away country overseas

Because you think Russia had the choice?
Not everyone has a nice sea to protect them from frog and kraut armies

5mileys
5mileys

Yes, thats why the Russians were blessed with Poland as a buffer zone, a nice place to start a war, ok food, talented hookers, nice flat terrain, everything you can ask for. But does Iwan use it? No, rather shit where you eat, like filthy animals!

massdebater
massdebater

yfw Corunna is still regarded as ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''victory''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' by the Anglo

Playboyize
Playboyize

its almost like Britain was closer to France than Russia was.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Invade an ally
Lose the war
Try to mock others

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Spain was an "ally" of France in 1808

By that logic, Vichy France was an "ally" of Germany in 1942
Subdued former enemy =/= ally

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

People couldn't cross mountains until railroads were invented,

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

And that's exactly why the British should have reached Paris before the Russians
But this isn't what happened

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Invade an ally
Lose the war
Try to mock others
Get told
Claim that the ally was not even an ally but a subdued enemy
Yet somewhat invading an already subdued enemy makes sense in your eyes
Still lost the war

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

all those casualties
Rather you than me Ivan. War isn't about glory it's about the best possible outcome for yourself. Britain played the napoleonic Wars perfectly, as shown by their subsequent 100 years of world domination

w8t4u
w8t4u

Yet somewhat invading an already subdued enemy makes sense in your eyes

It does
A subdued enemy (satellite state) isn't necessarily militarily occupied
When it doesn't behave good enough, you may need to invade it
That's what happened to Vichy France in 1942 (Case Anton) and to Spain in 1808

viagrandad
viagrandad

Man, why can´t you assume what Napoleon himself assumed?
Invading Spain was a mistake.
You can try to make as many excuses as you want
"Spain was not sovereign", "Spain was evil and treacherous", "French troops were not actually a real army".

But that won´t change the fact that Napoleon invaded a country that had been allied with France for years. And then proceed to lose the war.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

A military campaign in mountainous Spain is comparable to a trade route with no enemy forces hiding in the mountains and behind your lines
I think you're the one who needs to reconsider life, user.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Rush P cyka

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Well the British army was considerably smaller than the Russian army, the situation wasn't desperate for Britain like it was for Russia and the terrain is vastly different

5mileys
5mileys

Mainly because the British are and always have been absolutely shit at warfare, how does this still surprise some people?
bong propaganda is ubiquitous and even now there's a fresh crop of bong faggots spewing fantasy on youtube

massdebater
massdebater

If you don't know what you're talking about just refrain from posting

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

getting all worked up that Britain didn't headlong sacrifice hundreds of thousands of men like everyone else
It's like you want to be as retarded as the Continentals.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

waaah mutts and bongs writing history in a way i don't like

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

the state of Veeky Forums

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

It's like you want to be as retarded as the Continentals.
The bongs are just as retarded, as well as militarily incompetent.

Playboyize
Playboyize

be Russia
retreat and hide like cowards
hope for long distances and harsh winter to do the job for them
Napoleon reached Moscow
take everything to the ground even your capital before the French could have any gain from infrastructure or crops
chase the french during their retreat with guerrilla tactics, not even direct engaing
THE RUSSIANS TOOK BACK ALL OF EUROPE

Booteefool
Booteefool

retarded

win the war with minimal losses
equal seat at the Congress of Vienna
go on to be leading power of the century

Certainly more intelligent than the French or the Russians.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

French attempt to wipe an army low on supplies out
Gets their shit kicked in and retreat
Brits then leave battlefield

Ah yes, a clear defeat! A French victory would have ended the peninsular war you brainlet.

The state of Veeky Forums...Stop posting. After putting Wellington in charge and getting some reforms done the French were BTFO of Spain, they didn't get any major victories over the British it's just rearguards and skirmishes

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Northern Europe is just shitty flatland all the way from Moscow to Belgium. Pyrenees are a mountain range.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Bongs
have to cross from Africa to Europe
have to install two regimes which are happy with British rule as both were formally at war with the Mongs before
Russia
crosses through Prussia which was until 1945 very nationalistic
crosses through german princedoms keen to assert their authority
Really makes you think