How come Slavs cannot into engineering?

more than 4000 helo flights over the reactor

>Fuddlore: The Stalkering

>soviet robots broke down

desu any type of robot will break down in that type of radioactive environment.

>fucking radioactive boars n shit
Complete bullshit. More than a thousand people work in Chernobyl every day.

>tfw not fuddlore

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>The boars eat mushrooms made toxic from the radioactive metal cesium-137, which made its way into Czech soil from the nuclear meltdown at Chernobyl 30 years ago. The boars eat wild mushrooms in winter. Boar meat is then used in goulash.

Happily, radioactive meat is banned from circulation. Unhappily, because cesium-137 has a half life of 30 years, the boars are likely to be radioactive for a while — and almost half of the animals inspected from 2014 to 2016 were affected.

he other user was saying that the land recovered great from the lack of people

>volunteers were given free vodka
That's a part of any sort of a massive event involving Slavs.
>the melted core was so hot respirators filled with sweat within minutes and became unusable
There was no "core", due to reactor going poof. Liquid corium simply poured down into lower chambers, people did not interact with in any way, much less actually feel it's heat directly.
>HIND gunships were called back to USSR so they could be used to drop lead buckshot filled sandbags onto the reactor from the sky, casuing extreme radiation exposure to pilots
How would Soviets even use a strike gunship for cargo hauling when they had tens of thousands of cargo and utility helis, and what does "called back" even mean? Only a small part of their total active amount was ever deployed in Afgan and holy shit who came up with the lead buckshot meme it's the most retarded part easily.
>soviet robots broke down getting close to the reactor
Chips tend to degrade under hard ionization.
>men were given shovels and crude lead plate rad vests (lead plates pretty much taped to their chests) and given 30 seconds to run onto the roof, shovel debris, and get back before they would die from radiation sickness, rewarded as heros of the USSR once back to the save distance (most of them died within months to years)
That's not how absolutely any of it works.

>How come Slavs cannot into engineering?

Czechs can, poles can. Even Russians can. However Russians cannot into quality control

>he other user was saying that the land recovered great from the lack of people
You know exactly what he meant and he's right in that sense.
youtube.com/watch?v=IWCsGusFZjs

Let's face it the CIA via a mole in the politbureau and an act of genius set Chernobyl in motion to knock out woodpecker before it became elective for trials and to cover the fact their mole had successfully conned the politbureau into wasting a fortune on a crock of shit that did not work.

>There was no "core", due to reactor going poof. Liquid corium simply poured down into lower chambers, people did not interact with in any way, much less actually feel it's heat directly.
they attempted to tunnel under and around the area to try to fill in the area to prevent the melted reactor from entering moskaus water system

>How would Soviets even use a strike gunship for cargo hauling when they had tens of thousands of cargo and utility helis, and what does "called back" even mean?
the recalled helos from afghanistan because the need was too high, ans their pilots started getting radiation sickness for the overflights

>holy shit who came up with the lead buckshot meme it's the most retarded part easily.
they got desperate in trying to prevent the spread of radiation, throwing random things a it to try to gt it to stop

>That's not how absolutely any of it works.
pic related roof team running to shovel debris off the roof and get back to the safe distance

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Watch

youtube.com/watch?v=XwHkmfWJCAo

Just.

Stop.

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Russia should stop screwing with the USA and just get comfy with being a shithole of their own making that can't build a decent car

>it took non slavs to build sarcophagus 2: radioactive boogaloo
No it's just cucks think a few bananas worth of ionized air is unacceptable, so they refused to just use more concrete.

the new sarcophags has a crane robot to break apart the inside structure so it can be safely buried for eternity

I blame their grammar system. It's like the bastard child of german and nigger.

A few years ago it was reinforced after nearly collapsing, a second catastrophe that would have again shot radioactive dust and debris into the atmosphere. “My sarcophagus made it through 30 years, thank God,” he says. “But now it’s time to think about the future.”

Built by an international consortium of donors, it will seal in around 5,500 tons of radioactive sand, lead, boric acid and 220 tons of uranium and other unstable iosotopes, as well as tens of thousands of tons of irradiated concrete and steel.

“The first aim is to control the contamination,” says Caille. “The second aim is to provide the tools to deconstruct the exploded reactor.” But the overarching goal is to “contain everything,” says Caille, “to be sure that even if there is an earthquake or if the existing sarcophagus collapses, you do not have any contamination in Europe.”

>220 tons of uranium and other unstable iosotopes
Call me a nigger faggot, but why were the russians using mile long reactors?
Even at an unusable enrichment of like 0.01% and using no reflectors, that is still an absurd amount.
This stinks of ecoterrorist propaganda.

How is this even /k/ related?

get out of here Stalker.

>and other unstable iosotopes
everything in a 100 ish yard radius has been getting irradiated for over 30 years, that all needs to get treated in a similar way to the uranium, hence not just uranium

military/civil service fuckup causes military response to an issue that used military solutions and inspired an FPS

actually id say the worst environmental disaster in the history of humanity was the aral sea disaster. also caused by the soviets.

Need an explanation and source

In February 1965, there was a loss-of-coolant accident. After being shut down for refueling, the coolant was removed from the number two reactor before the spent fuel had been removed. As a result, some of the fuel elements melted and deformed inside the reactor. This was discovered when the spent elements were being unloaded for storage and disposal. 124 fuel assemblies (about 60% of the total) were stuck in the reactor core. It was decided to remove the fuel, control grid, and control rods as a unit for disposal; they were placed in a special cask, solidified, stored for two years, and dumped in Tsivolki Bay (near the Novaya Zemlya archipelago) in 1967.

The second accident was a cooling system leak which occurred in 1967, shortly after refueling. Finding the leak required breaking through the concrete and metal biological shield with sledgehammers. Once the leak was found, it became apparent that the sledgehammer damage could not be repaired; subsequently, all three reactors were removed, and replaced by two OK-900 reactors. This was completed in early 1970.[4]

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why can't japs into engineering?

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Materials weren't the issue, the design itself was deeply flawed.

>inserting control rods causes a power spike

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>soviet robots broke down getting close to the reactor

Even the specially made european bots that they brought in failed due to the radiation. The reason? KGB forced the scientists to downplay the radiation level, so it wasn't built with enough shielding.

>That's not how absolutely any of it works.

That is literally what they did, the guys in charge of the cleanup knew damn well that it wasn't going to do shit but make the soldiers feel better about it.

Chernobyl Disaster. 1986

>he other user was saying that the land recovered great from the lack of people
The animals don't give a shit about being radioactive, user. They breed and proliferate anyway.

it isn't, nogunz /int/ faggots can't stay in their own board

Because of the communist/socialist undercurrent in their philosophy. There's no incentives to work hard or do quality work under any communist system. They can threaten to kill you or with violence, but then you're gonna work just hard enough to not ge hassled. And also, with such a system of values no one will *want to lead projects or be in charge of much*. Sure, you might get a house/apartment with one more bedroom, BUT that comes at the cost of you being blamed when the project goes south. So it's also a system where people are going to try their hardest *not* to take on additional responsibility.

Also, thirdly, communism stifles innovation without the profit incentive so they become much more likely to do things in a way that would be obsolete to any capitalist nation. It's not worth puttying your life (and your families lives) on the line and invent anything that doesn't work flawlessly, so no one does. And technology begins to lag greatly behind the rest of the world.

"They pretend to pay us, we pretend to work." - Popular saying in the Soviet Union.

Ever wonder why all the artists and other degenerates incapable of producing enough value to sustain their existence really liked communism?

Anyone who has little monetary value likes the idea of socialism. They see it as a means to get a better lot in life. But they fail to realize even guys working the equivalent of retail or fast food in communist nations have it worse than they do. The more free shit you give the more it fucks the market up, makes cash worth less, makes goods and services cost more.

The world is unequal and people ar unequal. That's just a fact. That's why it's all the more important to work hard, but even more important to work smart. Learn a skill you can be paid well for (this usually does not require college these days, you just gotta be good at it) rather than arguing for more free shit.

>Slavs cheeki breeki a reactor
>can't have nice nuclear power now because MUH CHERNOBYL MUH FUKUSHIMA IZ GON MELTDAWN KILL UZ
Fuck off we need to embrace atomic power so we can ditch coal fired power plants. All the reactors in the world functioning without issue day in day out get ignored because subhuman communists and bugmen can't into safety

Who would win in a fight:
A nuclear reactor designed and constructed by some of the most technologically advanced people in the world
or
a wave

Well, the Fukushima reactor was fucked by being way to close to the coast and way too low in altitude. It's basically the American equivalent of trying to build a reactor in New Orleans, in may not happen in a decade, or even 2, but sooner or later the floods will fuck it up.

I think the real moral of the story is that we need to use nuclear barges.
All the coolant you would ever need.
In the event of china syndrome, you scuttle it and provided the water is deeper than a standard backyard pool, there is no meaningful radiation above the surface.
Immune to tsunamis.
All you would need for it to work is to lay some underwater power cables.

Hold on... Why aren't all of our nuclear plants just nuclear subs? 2 birds, 1 stone.

Because if one sinks you know have a radioactive pile on the seafloor leaching toxic isotopes into the ecosystem which make their way back up the food chain to humans.

Not how that works. DNA isn't prions.

Read a book, nigger.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biomagnification

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It's a meme. If you dispose of things properly by dumping them deep enough in the ocean or spread wide enough over the ocean, then the effect is negligible.

The ocean isn't a black hole, you retard. If you dump shit in it it WILL affect the local environment.

Let me guess, you're a child of the 70s and they taught you that the solution to population was dilution, right?

>drop AR into mud, shake it clean before fire, it work
>dope AK into mud, shake it clean, it work, doesn't shake it clean, doesn't work

you don't need a engineer to know how to maintenance a rifle, retard

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>If you watch the test series
buy your own gun and test it yourself, nogun

>Once the leak was found, it became apparent that the sledgehammer damage could not be repaired
Why is Russian problem solving always so damned hilarious?

And should I care if a crab 1000 miles from civilization get a few extra bananas of radiation?
The ocean isn't as densely populated as you think it is, and static life is the exception rather than the rule.

Nah, I'm 20. It's just the obvious solution.

If you two feel like being wasteful, then we can always just seal things in lead before dropping them into a trench.

youtube.com/watch?v=lCz6lLXJoQo

fuck off retard

Because that crab will get eaten by a fish, and that fish will get eaten by another fish, and so on an so forth, until someone somewhere ends up eating canned tuna with a dangerously high content of cesium 137 and gets bone cancer.

You are genuinely retarded.

The ocean is really big. Like big enough to make the difference in parts per trillion literally zero.

Are you a fucking retard? Do you even know what “radiation’ is. Radiation isn’t stopped. You stop radioactive isotopes from spreading, as in physical material.

Except they can

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there's no hope for this dumbass

Except those parts per trillion get bioaccumulated into much higher, much more dangerous levels over many years.

It's not the ocean water you're worried about, retard, it's the animals that live in it that we eat that you need to worry about.

Who are the worse engineers, Russians or Brazilians?

Brazilians never almost accidentally caused a global thermonuclear war... twice.

>Russia should stop screwing with the USA
Except most of the cold war it was the other way around

lots of reactors are fail deadly
really its more a case of bureaucratic mismanagement

Capitalism is degenerate and leads to where we are now. The kike globalists moved on from communism to capitalism.
The better way is national socialism fascism, the third way.

yeah, but bio-accumulation is a meme if throughout the entire lifetime of an apex predator a negligible amount of accumulated because of how widely the pollutant was dispersed.

Because this: antidem.wordpress.com/2016/04/26/chernobyl-head/

you were saying?

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Soviets were the very definition of cheap as fuck, and they also never gave two shits about the environment or whether or not their shit is actually safe (the Aral Sea is a good example of this).

>"because he shake them off"
Ivan?

Since you're a top grade baka, let me explain it to you step by step:
Small amount of toxic shit gets in the ocean
Large amount of small fish eat slightly contaminated shit
Smaller amount of medium fish eat shitton of slightly contaminated small fish
Smallest amount of large fish eat shitton of quite contaminated medium fish
We eat the large fish
???
Autism

Only a big dumb idiots think the ocean is this simple.

There river deltas that deposit literally hundreds of millions of tons of sediment per-year that build up until they slip of the continental shelf in spectacular landslides. You could dump barrels of toxic waste off the continental shelf of the Ganges delta, with no other action at all, and by the next year it would be covered in multiple meters of sediment courtesy of the ~1 billion tons of soil that are carried down the river yearly.
There are parts of the ocean that are literally being subducted under a continental shelf.
The ocean isn't uniformly biologically productive. Some parts flourish with life, others are almost entirely devoid as the the water lacks the nutrients to support phytoplankton.
There are parts of the ocean that are literally anoxic with nearly no biological exchange across boundaries of different types of seawater- except for dead animals sinking into them.

No, a crab from the Marianas trench isn't going to to bio amplify something that's going to find its way to your dinner plate. I'd personally be more worried about buying crab that's been caught off a dock where there's commercial ocean traffic, near storm drains or runoff from city streets.

Not only is dumping toxic waste into the ocean a viable solution for disposal, but there are actually multiple different strategies that could be used responsibly (and have been). It's purely the political incorrectness of the act and the general ignorance of both how the ocean works and the effects of it that resulted in the moratorium.

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Since your a retarded faggot let me explain it to you.

>Small amount of toxic shit gets in the ocean
Yes
>Large amount of small fish eat slightly contaminated shit
1. prove it
>Smaller amount of medium fish eat shitton of slightly contaminated small fish
Smaller amount of medium fish eat shitton of negligibly contaminated small fish
>Smallest amount of large fish eat shitton of quite contaminated medium fish
Smallest amount of large fish eat shitton of negligibly contaminated medium fish
>We eat the large (negligibly contaminated) fish
The negligibly contaminated large fish either dies and decomposes in the sea, resulting in the exact same or less amount of bio-accumulation per unit area.
Or we eat it, and we become negligibly contaminated for about 15 days. Keep in mind, most people don't eat 800 pounds of tuna all at once.

>???
Nothing happens.

>1. prove it
All plankton, specially mycoplankton, do is sit there and eat shit from their environment
>negligibly
Not by the second or third step of the process
>The negligibly contaminated large fish either dies and decomposes in the sea, resulting in the exact same or less amount of bio-accumulation per unit area
>Decomposed
I wonder what does the decomposing... And I wonder what eats the thing that does the decomposing...
>Or we eat it, and we become negligibly contaminated for about 15 days. Keep in mind, most people don't eat 800 pounds of tuna all at once.
Mmmmm... Heavy metals accumulating in my cells, my favorite

Well you might be bating but you might equally be of the retarded kind, and I'm liking my chances

>However Russians cannot into quality control

Netiher can poles. I've worked enough construction projects with poles to know that if the client has hired polish contractor the project is going to be quadruple the price and thrice the work (Building it with poles, tearing it down because its substandard and building it again with native workers to standards).

I see you ignored the part about the contamination per unit area not increasing.

>Heavy metals accumulating in my cells, my favorite
Best not eat food.

Also:
>Not by the second or third step of the process
That is entirely dependent on the amount introduced. Fuck off, you can't just presuppose the levels are high enough that that is true.
More that a little dishonest and disingenuous...

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I addressed the heavy metals magically disappearing when the magic decomposition faeries teleport them to the magic land. And lets just say that a big part of the fish gets eated by plankton and some scavengers, and a small part of it becomes sand. How much of that then gets refiltered again? Again, the heavy metals aren't magically disappearing.
>Best not eat food.
Yes, because bread is well known to contain mercury out its ass.

>That is entirely dependent on the amount introduced.
ANY amount is going to be amplified inside living being until it either gets eaten by us, or ends up deep underneath.
Also, consider where we do most of our fishing, and where we dump our chemicals. Dissipation doesn't happen immediately, it tends to concentrate around its source.

sergey go watch you state-run television

>magically disappearing when the magic decomposition faeries teleport them to the magic land.
Not my claim.

>How much of that then gets refiltered again?
The majority.

>Again, the heavy metals aren't magically disappearing.
They sorta are.

The point I was making is that ignoring any effects that remove contaminants from the system, there exists an equilibrium in terms of the contamination of each animal.
If you contaminate a region at a rate of X per square mile, it will not increase above X per square mile. So if the dispersion of contaminants is wide enough, there is no measurable impact.

>Yes, because bread is well known to contain mercury out its ass.
OK, so it's decided. We dump our mercury in wheat fields.

>ANY amount is going to be amplified inside living being until it either gets eaten by us, or ends up deep underneath.
And what about when the amount that is accumulated in negligible? Oh right, you are assuming that that is not the case because even in a hypothetical where that is the case, you think your arguments still have merit because because.

>Also, consider where we do most of our fishing,
Coastal waters, gulf of mexico, and alaska.

>and where we dump our chemicals.
The open ocean, concrete and clay lined ponds, and an incenerator.

>Dissipation doesn't happen immediately,
It does when you do it manually.

>it tends to concentrate around its source.
Most people aren't suggesting we dump waste at the mouth of the mississippi.

>People this fucking stupid potentially vote in my nation and subsequently effect my life.

Truly we are a civilized species deserving of planetary agency.

see: And then rethink your life choices that lead to your devotion to a chair fetishist.

We'er getting to it. Another 100 posts should do it.

No, but you need to watch this video youtube.com/watch?v=lCz6lLXJoQo

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>2010+8
>there are people consider Karl opinion as legit fact

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The story of Chernobyl is actually really interesting. Long story short, everything was fine and dandy but during a routine power test where the reactor needed to produce less energy for something, someone from the Politburo or something came on by. This asshole demanded the factory keep producing X amount of energy for some reason which evades me at the moment while they were doing these complicated things hat required it to be producing little energy for safety reasons. Needless to say the original guy said fuck off, and the Politburo replaced him with someone else and ordered them again. Not wanting to lose his new comfy job he agreed. Thus resulting in a meltdown scenario that involved the Politburo guy leaving faster than you can say "Blyat Cyka...". All in all the reactor was fine in a lot of ways, but due to communist oversight a meltdown was caused via trying to make the impossible happen and breaking safety procedures. Who would've thunk.

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LoL at the mutt. They are sitting on the other side of the world under 6m years of sanctioning.

What exactly are they doing that they need to fuck off with?

I suppose you could say Syria, but you're the invader there fagot, and as a result EU is now flooded with niggers.

Its you who need to fuck off to your island.

>so insecure he need to post a aircraft meme in a gun argument

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