Religion still exists in 2018

>religion still exists in 2018

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why wouldn't it? what good has come from any rejection of religion? people are just steadily becoming more confused and hopeless so it's obvious religion wasnt the problem

This, I am an atheist who is considering converting to Christianity.

>religion is a single monolithic thing

>I am an atheist who is considering LARPing as Christian
If you're self-aware enough to know that you're only converting for the feels then it won't work, you'll still know you don't really believe it deep down.

>be atheist
>deny universal order
>simultaneously rely on universal order to live
Strange

how do your basic systems even function if you are brain dead

So basically you know it’s all bullshit but you want an ideology and easy answers?

Is that a point your trying to make or just poorly constructed ad hominem? I genuinely can't tell

>religion provides answers
You know why faith is right?
The idea that that which we can't prove exists still does exists because it can be reasonably inferred to exist

>atheism still exists in 2018

>Worst Objection to Theism: Who Created God?
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>Digital Physics Argument for God's Existence
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>The Leibnizian Cosmological Argument
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>Quantum Physics Debunks Materialism
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>The Introspective Argument
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>The Teleological Argument
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>What Atheists Confuse
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>Is Atheism a Delusion?
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>The Existential Problem & Religious Solution
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Yes, religion literally DOES provide “answers” to existential questions. Why do you think people believe in it?
>Was the universe intentional (therefore there is order in the universe) or unintentional (therefore there is chaos).
>Yes, the universe was intentional!
>Is there an afterlife? (Human’s greatest fear being death)
>Yes! And it’s an eternal paradise (if you support our faith).
those are just two, there’s also providing “answers” for Human exceptionalism and others
Religion is literally for people who want easy and comfortable answers to uncomfortable questions

>west abandons christianity
>get surprised when moral decay, family values and society collapses

Reality: 1
Atheists: 0

atheism is for people who don't want God telling them what to do

it's an easy cop-out. you hate the Bible because accepting it's true means you'd radically change your lifestyle, and you don't want that.

>if you’re not religious you MUST be an atheist
Nice false dichotomy retard, also nice goalpost shift

I don’t know any atheists

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>If you're self-aware enough to know that you're only converting for the feels then it won't work, you'll still know you don't really believe it deep down.
Not for the feels, I am considering doing it for the structure, the discipline & the tradition. As an existential nihilist I believe man is a rising beast and can create his own hierarchy so I discarded religion. In order to create your own hierarchy and improve you have to have a strong set of morals. I found whenever I try to create my own morals I end up bending them for my own convenience which leads to degeneracy. I also believe in objective truths (for instance, don't murder) and Christianity is one of the best examples of something that was created by my ancestors and revised over and over again for the purpose of survival. I believe in a collective soul and that ideas are much bigger than people, are bodies are just flesh vessels that allow us to act with the physical world. I also started to realize the importance of family and that is one of the primary points of Christianity.

I am self aware enough to recognize that I am human and that I have limitations so believing in god gives me that unreachable point to achieve for. I'm more or less going from theist - atheist - deist.

Also, fuck Rick & Morty. I am not going to lie that cringe that that show has created is one of the main things that pushed me over the edge.

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What other is there you gigantic retard?

You're a theist or an atheist.

Theism can be further broken down into pantheism, polytheism, monotheism, etc.

Lol but you just greentexted things that CANT be proven but can be reasonably inferred
This is the difference between religious answers and non religious andswers

>duh look at me play with words!
You are so stupid the answers are beyond your reach
Pro tip: words have meaning

>Rick & MORTY out of literally nowhere
Ok so you’re either a LARPer or you pathetically bought the /pol/ memes hook, line and sinker

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Embrace your lord and savior!

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This.

The only reason people consider to be atheists is because they've been brainwashed to believe in darwinian evolution.

If you accept the earth is approx. 6000 years old and the universe is created, then logically the Bible is true.

So it's not atheism that should be tackled, it's their presuppositional beliefs/worldview. Once they realize evolutionism is false they'll drop atheism.

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2 years ago i watched that 18 hour destruction of darwinism, it was beautiful and life changing for me.

OP, nobody in this thread will be capable of providing a good answer to your implied question, but the least bad answer is that people are fundamentally not perfectly rational and many times not even mostly rational. This is why people still seriously believe somebody rose from the dead 2000 years ago and it's why people seriously believe a moderately successful child-raping warlord was a prophet and why the descendants of a small obnoxious iron age tribe are somehow chosen by an entity that created the universe.

sorry not being edgy but there's no way entities described in any religious book can exist.

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>>and why they believe the descendants of a small obnoxious iron age tribe are somehow chosen by an entity that created the universe.
Fixed.

t. OP samefagging

You got answered multiple times and embarassed infront of Veeky Forums

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>Implying the universe isn't a constant.
>Implying the universe has a beginning.
>Implying the universe has an end.
>Implying the universe doesn't constantly expand until it's matter is smaller than it's gravitational pull causing it to begin to fall in on itself until it implodes and begiins to expand back outward.

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samefag

atheism is false and proven wrong

>no one can possibly understand the things I know to be true
It's funny how alike atheists and religious zealots sound

This is a thread where the religion pushers are some how more cringe than the die-hard atheists

>when you're too stupid to provide anything to the convo

faith exists because people want to feel important and special and love the idea of being pandered to by some supernatural force, all the community features + extras (the only argument for religion really) existed long before any religion did

>Theists: provide sources, links and evidence
>Atheists: just shitpost and MUH FEELINGS

Looks like theism wins again.

>you wear hat
wow you're quite the modern Cicero

>projecting
You seem to have a lot of faith in the idea that "reason" is a thing that can be communicated, pretty religious of you

Also, just for shits and giggles id LOVE it if you could please conceptualize a world existing long before religion.
I'll spoil it for you a bit and tell you that since the dawn of human consciousness the concept of the unknown and the powerful have been fused in a sort of reverence for that which we don't understand that still affects us

theism has been trying to use science to prove itself legitimate since forever, but it's never worked, because it's philosophically incompatible and only hurt your argument, people are tired of your childish arguments and desperation to validate your worldview in fear of a true death

Science cannot prove or disprove the existence of God you retard.
Science only deals with natural laws.

Religion is about where these laws and creation came from, what our purpose is in life, what happens when we die, etc.

When talking about God, you're dealing in the philosophical/theological realm.

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atheists BTFO

They aren't answers, because they can't be proven. That's why people have to have faith in them.

take out the phrase “”””””””family values””””””” and you have the perfect explanation here

Being a teist only means that you want someone to tell you what to do
Grow up

>Nigga mad because homosexuals burn in hell.

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There is literally no group of atheists anywhere in the world reproducing above the replacement rate. Atheism is by its nature dysgenic and will never predominate anywhere in the long run.

>4321785
Can not take the thruth so insult

>hey guys I'm God, a magical entity that has existed forever in nothingness for eternity
>basically I got bored one day and decided I wanted to create literally all of reality. I did in it a week, which seems pretty arbitrary since I'm all-powerful and thus could've done it instantly, but moving on...
>basically I created this race, humanity in my image. I made this guy called Adam and plopped him in the paradise Eden with all the animals
>but he couldn't fuck the animals, so I ripped out his rib cage and made the first woman out of him
>they fucked lol and I told them to do whatever the fuck they wanted except eat from the Tree of Knowledge (yes knowledge is bad mmmkay)
>Like a stupid dumb bitch that she is, the woman Eve spoke with a literal fucking snake who told her to eat the apple and the absolute MADWOMAN did
>she made Adam eat it too and they fucked again over their depravity so I kicked them out of the Garden to create the human race
>basically they fucked and made three sons which somehow populated the entire human race (4 guys + 1 woman = Millions of humans) until one day I said fuck it and flooded the Earth 4thelulz
>this guy, Noah, put the billions of species of animal onboard is ship and I PROMISED him that I wouldn't wipe out the human race anymore (heheheh)
>I also got really pissed at some faggots for building a big tower so I created multicultural languages as a punishment
>Eventually I got bored one day and fucked some brought called Mary. She claimed she was a virgin, but she really wasn't. She gave birth to my son who was also me, Jesus Christ.
>I sent my son, who is also me, down to spread the good news about how rich people are evil and the poor are good (lmao tell that to my fans today)
>Eventually I told my son (who is also me), to kill himself for the sins of others and the absolute MADMAN did it
>He came back to Heaven to join me (who is also me) to watch over humans

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>Basically my whole plan was that humans can do whatever the fuck they want, as long as before they die they say they believe in me and ask for forgiveness, and then they can spend eternity in paradise with me
>And if those evil fedora tippers DON'T believe in me, well I don't care if they're good as mother FUCKING teresa they're gonna burn in Hell for eternity, getting raped by demons
>But don't worry guys, I love all of you! Just don't be a heretic :^)

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>I'm now a christian because /pol/ told me it's a cool counterculture to them DAMN SJWS

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Let's compare:

The 10 most religious countries

Ethiopia - 99% feel religious
Malawi - 99%
Niger - 99%
Sri Lanka - 99%
Yemen - 99%
Burundi - 98%
Djibouti - 98%
Mauritania - 98%
Somalia - 98%
Afghanistan - 97%

The 10 least religious countries

China - 7% feel religious
Japan - 13%
Estonia - 16%
Sweden - 19%
Norway - 21%
Czech Republic - 23%
Hong Kong - 26%
Netherlands - 26%
Israel - 30%
United Kingdom - 30%

I prefer to live in a country in which religion has nothing to say.

True, all hail Azathoth!

>Christianity or Jewish Degeneracy
It's not a hard choice.

>Religion is about where these laws and creation came from
how can it know the answer to that?
>what our purpose is in life
no such thing
>what happens when we die
you you cease just like billions of years before you were born

Christianity IS Jewish degeneracy you fucking retard
Jesus Christ was A JEW

4321879
Give me my (you), you fucking faggot.

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OP has been blown the fuck out

//////////dread
wtf I believe in a magical space daddy now

t. Tankie who bases his ideology off of a literal Jew.

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>if you're not a Christian you're a literal communist
do you actually believe this or are you just memeing

He is trolling - Everyone one in this threat is. There is nothing of value here.

>Butthurt commie.
Checked.

I grew up catholic, became an atheist, converted back to catholicism out of respect for its institutions and I’m now an agnostic. It’s not worth it. Being part of an organized religion when you know the stories and supernatural events are bogus is ridiculous. You force yourself to supress logic in favour of things you don’t even believe in.

Literally every significant problem is caused by capitalism or religion

0/10 poor bait

literally everything significant is religion

Thanks for the advice.

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This but unironically

I'm not joking. Every serious problem facing the planet (inequality, climate change, mass migration, terrorism, imperialism, Islamism, Zionism, personal alienation, depression) is caused or exacerbated by those forces.

More like culteral marxism you commie retard

>Implying the universe doesn't constantly expand until it's matter is smaller than it's gravitational pull causing it to begin to fall in on itself until it implodes and begiins to expand back outward.
I'd like to know more about this, can you suggest me something to read
What should i have to search/look up for it?

>culteral marxism
bold of you to openly admit you fell for obvious boogieman of the cuckservatives

>reality is a boogeyman

You do realize cultural marxism is literally happening infront of our eyes in U.S. campuses, right?

Everything the commies and Frankfurt school talked about, is being fulfilled to the T.

Literally every significant problem is being caused by a will to hoard resources as is human nature.

>boogeyman is a reality

>Everything the commies and Frankfurt school talked about, is being fulfilled to the T.
>You do realize cultural marxism is literally happening infront of our eyes in U.S. campuses, right?
you literally just proved my point, retard. To a T.

>Commie indoctrination and brainwashing rampant in U.S. schools
>Antifa, SocJus, BLM
>"hurr it doesn't exist! it's just a boogeyman!"

Sure thing retard, whatever makes you sleep at night.

>when you know the stories and supernatural events are bogus
lol

>You force yourself to supress logic in favour of things you don’t even believe in.
le logical non-theist XDDDD

>>Commie indoctrination and brainwashing rampant in U.S. schools
>things that never happened
>>Antifa, SocJus, BLM
literally nothing to do with communism or Marxism
>"hurrrr it exists! it's not a boogieman, you guys!"
absolute brainlet

>inequality
Inequality is part of nature and is found in every system (including communism) (see pareto distribution). In a capitalist society the top of the hierarchical order can only remain at the top via competition by creating goods and services that the market needs and wants. This law still exists in a communist/socialist society except the top remains at the top by using the state which is a monopoly of violence.

>climate change
Has been debunked. The amount of man made chemicals that effect climate have reduced significantly due free market enterprise.

>mass migration
Immigration is handled by the state.

>terrorism
The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

>imperialism
A policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.

>Islamism
What happens when your state isn't secular.

>Zionism
What happens when your state isn't secular.

>personal alienation
You're going to have to explain this one.

>depression
You're also going to have to explain this one.

You just listed several issues with the state and then blame it on capitalism and religion. The irony of it all is the fact that dumb asses like yourself think that the answer to fix these issues is to give full power to the state. Communist should be thrown from helicopters.

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Science doesn't care about things that are inherently unable to be tested. If it cannot be tested and proven via a hypothesis it has literally no scientific backbone to argue with, which many religious arguments (see the thread or dumb niggas like Ken Ham)

no dude that's called induction

Compelling argument fuckstick

>if it isn't scientific it's ken ham-tier
woah...so this is...your mind...on science™

>dude you should believe in christianity because of supernatural events
>dude i don't believe in christianity because i think supernatural events are silly

Both of these are bad opinions

>literally nothing to do with communism or Marxism
After World War a bunch of ex communist Jews moved to the United States. They weren't able to apply economic Marxism to flip society and gain influence so they started attacking culture via identity politics as a divide and conquer technique. Cultural Marxism is as real as it gets but dumb ass commie sympathizers like yourself are too indoctrinated to notice.

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Not pretending you believe in things you don't actually believe in is a perfectly good reason not to adopt a certain religion.

No matter how hard you try, you will still know the truth deep down and you'll know that you're faking it. I don't see why this is hard to understand.

See I used to think this cynical outlook made me mature and tough until I read a book and stopped watching Rick and Morty. It doesn't matter if there's an afterlife or not, you're missing the point of faith.

I wish I lived in a world where right-wing conspiracy theories were true, but it would probably collapse under the weight of so many paradoxes.

>It doesn't matter if there's an afterlife or not

It absolutely does. The way you live your life completely depends on this answer.

Belief is an act of will, it's not a feeling. Why were you faking it to begin with?

The jewish thing has nothing to do with it but he's right. That is indisuputably something that happened. You can't just ignore parts of history you don't like.

>I wish I lived in a world where left-wing ideologies were true, but it would probably collapse under the weight of so many paradoxes.

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The cultural changes of the 60s happened, but there is a bit more to it than le ebul postmodernists

I never faked it. I'm talking about someone who would try to pretend they believed in an ancient myth when they were just forcing it and didn't actually believe it.

I'm a centrist.

>pretend they believed in an ancient myth
See there you go, what are you even talking about?

Yeah and denying their role in the social sciences is disingenuous to the point of delusion or lies. Post-modernism is a philosophy, not the objective truth.

>Should the state take all of your shit?
or
>Should people vote for the state to take all of your shit?

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Pretending you believe in the supernatural aspects of Christianity.