Veeky Forums absolutely BTFO

Why am I lifting again
youtu.be/zNzQFIT5wIM

butttt I have both, dun dun dunnnnn

Girl on right is hot af

>HEIGHT
>FACE
>FRAME
Its not a Lookism meme guys its the most important blackpill

literally a moonface you virgin

i'm gonna moon your face you keep it up boyo

low bodyfat and good overall muscularity absolutely effect the face.
how is this even debatable?
getting a hot body has face gains.

height, face and frame. these don't matter. money is the only thing that matters.

Not for a lot of people. My face looks exactly the same after years of lifting.

Face will get you women, money will also get you women. They will get you different kind of women.
If you get women for your face you'll be happy, if you get women for your money, you'll always know it's just because of your economic circumstance and they would go for another guy in a heartbeat otherwise. Not a good place to be mentally for your entire life.

girls say they

>want a kind and caring man
>someone in touch with their feminine side
>to be taken to expensive restaurants
>a man who will cry with them
>money isnt important, just be a nice sweet guy

If women say it, then it must be true. Btw im conventionally ugly and fucked 100+ women just by being funny as fuck. Women are slaves to their emotions, and any man who actually listens to them is setting themselves up for failure.

>Not a good place to be mentally for your entire life.
if i were filthy rich i wouldnt give a fuck if the bitch loved me or not as i would have many of them

Also to answer OP, face is a prerequisite for physical attraction, while body works additively.

>2017
>believing self-reported surveys
Next you'll be believing women don't care about dick size or money.

this is why i say not to waste a single cent on gym until you've sorted your face out with plastic surgery first

This christmas I will be spending $4500 on specialised jaw implants. I couldn't sign up for hte gym again and i've lost a few lbs from not being able to eat my usual food but it's worth it

Yes but you won't be 13 forever.

>Not for a lot of people. My face looks exactly the same after years of lifting.
no neck gains?
muscular neck frames the face to make it look better

THIS
THIS
THIS

Women DO NOT know what they want. DO NOT listen to women. You are a MAN.

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shitty face + shitty body < shitty face + good body (-shitty face)
shitty body < good body

wow

Why you posting selfies tho

If you didn't know face > body, you're a complete social autist.

>im conventionally ugly and fucked 100+ women

Yeah, right. Retards on Veeky Forums will believe this though, because they want to think they can overcome their shit genetics.

However, good face > any kind of body.

cope harder

Post proof, oh wait you can't. I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. Btw, most guys who think they are ugly are actually not and vice versa.

looks like jimmy neutron after a trim

You can be below average and still get girls you incel.

lol

Yes, you can get LTRs. I have a friend who's ugly as fuck but he's extroverted so he's had a few attractive gf's. But eventually the girls always leave him for a better looking dude, simply because they can.

One nights stands are different, it's all about height face frame. A legit subhuman will NOT pull any pussy in a club setting.

Your face will improve if you're fat/skinny and start eating healthy and you gain muscle around your trap/neck area

You've got to be a real fucking faggot to be lifting for girls anyway.

You're not gonna get 100+ girls if you're ugly unless you're rich, you virgin.

I lift for myself.