Depression general

thats very sad to hear

Go to mass, pray the rosary

Probably you have too much of free time to think about how you feel nothing and shit and drown in self-regret and self-destruction. Try keeping yourself busy and remember that things will get better. Works for me.

>Depression can happen suddenly as a result of physical illness, experiences dating back to childhood, unemployment, bereavement, family problems or other life-changing events.

fix your shit faggot

depression isn't just "feeling down", it's a serious illness that causes apathy, a feeling of misery, paranoia, sadness and has physical symptoms as well such as chronic fatigue and phantom pain. depression feels like you are dying and there is nothing that can be done about it

you know one of the worst things about feeling down is being scared friends, family, doctors won't take you serious, tell you to not be a pussy and give shit advice

is that a one room apartment?

Awful
I got cheated on again women are memes

Depression is just some special snowflake millennial bullshit. They should pull themselves up by their boot straps and remember that nobody owes them a living and they need o hurry up and get to work to pay for my social security!

One room?
Whatabout my huge laundry?

Lel

Reminder that depression is your fault and the only way to fix it is to admit it and actually put effort into identifying your problems and improving your situation.

>Clean your room
>Take a shower too, go get a Haircut as Well..
Why bother? You're going to die anyway.

Lol. Why not just actually do it then since it doesn't matter?

>Reminder that depression is your fault
How about if you've never had actual depression you just don't try and give advice about things you know nothing about?

If it doesn't matter I might as well just lay in bed for the rest of the day.

>try to fix that over the next few days
Nah dude, stop procrastinating, the Internet and porn isn't going anywhere anytime soon. It seems to me like you're pretty bad at cleaning your room too, seeing how you mopped the floor but there's still stuff all over it. Get a few nice-looking boxes from Ikea and put shit in them. Your mind will only be as clean as your house.

Have you considered the possibility that I'm giving advice on something I actually do know a lot about? Stop immediately looking for excuses to stay stagnant and actually take steps to improving your situation. Right now your in denial that there's anything you can do and you just need to accept the reality of your situation and move forward from wherever that is. Don't just read the first line and retreat into your shell like a loser, actually read the all of what I had to say and take it in to serious consideration.

Not that guy, but I've been depressed mostly all of my adult life and even parts of my childhood. I kind of agree with him, even though he says it in a weird way. Depression is oftentimes a result of not recognizing your own mind patterns and seeing things in a very one-dimensional way. You get caugh in a rut because you're tired all the time, but the only way to stop being tired is to get better at the game(s) of life. So how do you get better at life? You study it.

yeah but you're gonna die anyway. go all-in on life

If it doesn't matter you may as well get up and do something. Do some push-ups and some stretches or go for a walk around your neighbourhood. It doesn't matter either way so why just do something different than the same shit you've done every single day for the last few years in a row?

Whoever is living in that room, he's a total animal. Actually I take it back. Animals are better than him.

>sweeps shit into the corners
>gives a thumbs up

Do pic related or kill yourself

>So how do you get better at life? You study it.
Explain

Reading philosophy and other books about e.g. how to make friends, how to be successful, how to get what you want out of people, how to love someone, how to get a promotion, etc.

...

In the end it's all fucking pointless,don't even want anything anymore.... only thing that works for me is distraction

The get good at distracting yourself, by learning various activities that you can do. At some point you might even meet people with similar interests and hit it off.

Magic mushrooms, boom just saved all your lives.

>17, almost missed it

Spergs had better step up their game quick

Usually men in their 30’s discover whores unless they have no or little libido.

>tfw barely a slither of progress for losing skinny fat for the past 3 weeks
I JUST WANT TO BECOME LEAN DAMNIT.

Anyone tried magic mushrooms for depression?

BBC said its good for it yesterday.

Doesn't work/doesn't last. Neither does lsd, dmt and all the other terrible stuff people will become desensitized to when they start playing with 'just a few' drugs. Any breakthrough you make will be gone within a week, and if you can power through and correct yourself you wouldn't have ended up in that situation in the first place and definitely wouldn't need drugs to fix it.

I'm not gonna fuck some disease ridden niggerian whore and risk being stabbed. Not sure I'd want to travel to the Netherlands just for an awkward lay.

Lexapro, Adderall, vitamin D, and tanning 30 minutes a day basically saved me. Haven't felt this good in years and very happy. Haven't been depressed at all in 3 weeks and started going back to the gym.

Highly recommend lexapro for the depression and anxiety and 20mg Adderall if you can get a script . Adderall is the thing that was able to get me out of the house and able to hit the gym.

Good luck anons it'll get better eventually. Took about 8 antidepressants, 3 years of suicide thoughts, and gaining 150 pounds

>Adderall
>Haven't felt this good in years
>3 weeks
Yes good goy, eat the pills, they will make your life great! Get back to me in a year and tell me how it went.

They’ve actually done studies on the effects of psilocybin on depression though and it works, of course in conjunction with pyschological support.

You have a weird perception of prostitution even in America. Why would you choose a Nigerian whore unless its your thing.

Have you tried sniffing adderall? have you take it while drunk?

>you're gonna die anyway, nothing matters so why bother haha i'm so wicked and nihilistic
>btw Veeky Forums, I don't care about anything but I am gonna upload personal pictures and engage with people who want to offer me advice to show them just how little I care haha
>swoosh

Listen you little shit, life is bad, it's up to you to take responsibility and make it worthwhile.
>inb4 why should I? I am like dark sonic, hehe nothing matters

You said you still have friends and family, once those go, you'll be at rock bottom but and you'll realize all to late how your miserable life is your own fault, none other than you.

Life is indeed terrible but there are ways of behaving in it that's not actively running face first into that wall—the wall being the terribleness of life. And that's exactly what you're doing now.

Why are you doing it? Because you're bitch-made and lack a spine and you'd rather gather pity than move forward.

Because all the other whores have been beat up and chased out, Nigerians dominate the prostitution market here.

Anybody else hate that their doctors keep pushing antidepressants on them? I'm depressed because I'm lonely. I have never had a girlfriend and the only sex I can get is either through escorts or fat chicks. I don't have any friends. I asked my doctor to refer me to a therapist but the cunt keeps telling me I need to take Zoloft. According to her, exercising and eating healthy don't do the trick. Only pills will help. Fuck that bitch.

>took about 8 antidepressants

No offence bro but after the 3rd maybe 4th max why wouldnt you realise that they do nothing and its entirely up to you to change/help your mood?

>Anybody else hate that their doctors keep pushing antidepressants on them? I'm lonely. I have never had a girlfriend and the only sex I can get is either through escorts or fat chicks. I don't have any friends. I asked my doctor to refer me to a therapist but the cunt keeps telling me I need to take Zoloft. According to her, exercising and eating healthy don't do the trick. Only pills will help. Fuck that bitch.

I fixed your post for you. You aren't depressed, you're housewife tier depressed.

I can go on backpage and find any race easily. I’ve hooked up with numerous whores and never ran across any Nigerians. Whores are like a cheat code most normie women don’t want you to know.

>3 months back decided to cut
>had no muscle back then (not like I do now), though I felt like the fattest mother fucker (20bmi)
>dropped to 18bmi, partially developed an eating disorder
>apathy through all of this
>finally content with my body image
>though apathy turns into autism-level depression
>realise that I probably can't live at 600cal a day
>"haha I must be depressed cause I'm not eating enough"
>turned my life around, now doing my best to eat TDEE 300-500 surplus, started lifting, taking care of macros and vitamins
>few weeks passed, everything is still shit
>depression completely fucked over my libido, as in, from 100 to a literal 0
>(autist food probably fucked over my test)
>that's ruining relationship with my gf, combined with me being thinner than her and making her anxious (she was anorexic, which I didn't know before)
>she's mad that I'm going to the gym too often and we don't have time for each other (3 times a week)
>both considering break-up

Welp. At least I can put "heavy" things up and put them down. That's what keeps me going. I also started studying stoicism and philosophy overall. I'm going to fucking make this.

Whores and magic mushrooms will cure what ails ya.

I'm in a bit of a rut, in all honesty. Work has been stressful as fuck for me at times but that's typical. My social and romantic lives are going well. I have a few lesbian friends though that are flirty with me lately and it frustrates me cause they aren't single and I don't think they're trying to leave their gfs anytime soon to be with me. I have just been taking things in stride, and I recently started lifting again 2 get a stronger bod and bigger legs. I hope it's a good idea. My place is kind if messy and I haven't fept motivated to clean it up. Agh...

>citation needed

>break up with gf back in feb
>bury emotions about it
>go through rough time in life
>finally get a great job in august
>finally get decent living conditions in october
>finally get a good gym and make some progress
>realize holding in my emotions is making me unable to enjoy all of this
>realize i'm going to become that angry asshole dad if I don't start forgiving people and letting my anger go
>many old emotions come back
>pretty fucking depressed
>feel like something is missing in life
>apprehensive about relationship and women stuff
>now with making money I am cautious about gold digging whores
>really missing some aspects of my old gf
>feeling like this is an itch I need to scratch but I don't know where and how to scratch it
>sometimes feel like I should text my ex but I know from experience it never turns out well

>mad because of boyfriend spending a bit more than a hour at the gym every second day
>it makes her consider breaking up
pls do, she just wants to keep you at her fucked up level and it is not any good for you

Did you try asking her out you faggot?

woosh

We're also growing apart because no matter what I say makes her sad. Like jokes, or other harmless stuff, she takes everything literally.

She's also depressed, but she's going through it in a way that just makes me feel even worse. She tries to care about my feelings but instead focuses on getting sad/mad everytime she can, talking to her is a literal minefield.

Gonna binge eat now, FUCK

>Depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain.

That could be a bit like a person saying that a fracture is caused by a load in excess of bone resistance. It's true but it's not situated at the right level of explanation. Saying "he is anxious because is autonomic nervous system has taken over" isn't as illuminating as knowing that he's about to make a high stake presentation in front of 400 people.

>TA
>phd in comp sci
Why are you getting a phd when there's so much money in the market? Why not get a real job? Phd is actually pretty rare in comp sci right now.

Imo be flirty with her during the semester and ask her out after the semester ends or when you have 0 effect on her grades. There were tons of art professors out there fucking their students while they are teaching them, you are only a TA dude.

Or just accept that maybe there was a reason, and you shouldn't chase whimsical fairy tale dreams?

guess you gotta have a serious talk with her asap

you making it is a priority, remember

>two day dry fast over the weekend
>going well so far, lost 5lb yesterday
>mild headache, dehydrated obviously
>decide to start a batch of cubensis
>mix up 5 jars, easy mode pf tek
>pressure cook etc...
>keeps me occupied
>order groceries for pickup
>fuggin out of food, $180
>shitpost until later when I pick them up

>you making it is a priority, remember
but I don't wanna hurt her... she doesn't deserve to be hurt

Cringe

Make yourself a decaf or a tea with a tablespoon of coconut oil before doing it senpai.

damage done and IDK if I even want to stop today...

kinda steering clear of decafs cause it was a multiple times a day drink when I was going full thinspo

thanks though

yeah she doesn't sound good for you man

Fucking hate that binge eating shit. I think glutamine + tryptophane + coconut oil decaf would be my go to binge eating stopper if I had that problem. I used to binge eat white bread + peanut butter but that all stopped when I changed my diet.

At what point is to too late to turn you'r life around?

All these complacent faggots in this thread need to get up and do something. that's literally all it takes. Distract yourself. Nothing matters? Cool, then do what you want to at least keep yourself occupied. Go meet people and take some fucking initiative. EAT BETTER AND DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR YOURSELF. Only way to do it. I've been where you are and I still have no respect for you.

it's even fucking worse considering I was doing literally perfect today until now, fuck this, like 1500 calories just from last minute sugar
I'm gonna talk to her right now the other user suggested

Not the proper way of seeing it. "Turning your life around" merely means going from a negative rate of improvement to a positive one. The fatty doesn't suddenly becomes thin. He simply starts to act in a way that he progressively moves in the proper direction until the desired goal is achieved. The only thing you can do is act every day in such a way that :

> rate of improvement > rate of decay

and then you wait for the benefits to accrue over time. It's not super fast but there's a point at which it'll feel faster than expected.

I'm gonna shill for my favorite book again. Pic related. (I'm not a big fan of calorie counting for weight loss purposes. Check out this link.)

perfecthealthdiet.com/category/weight-loss/

>perfecthealthdiet.com/category/weight-loss/

thanks, but just from initial paragraph, it's a weight loss book
I'm starting from underweight going for a clean bulk

>it's a weight loss book

It's not a weight loss book. It's a book about nutrition and this article specifically happens to be about the weight loss aspect of this particular nutritional strategy. The point of the article is simply that eating right will almost automatically reset your set point to a healthy range, which is huge for overweight people.

As an aside, I no longer believe in the clean bulk meme. I'm not even sure what it means. Does it simply mean "fat free bulk" or "increased weight without increase in body fat"?

increase in weight with only a small amout of increase in BF from what I've read

I'll check the book out to know exactly what you mean

Does the weight loss stick?

Started smoking weed with my friends in college. Think it’s making it worse :(

The problem I have with low fat bulk is that I think the following is the only way it can work. If MPS = muscle protein synthesis rate and MPB = muscle protein breakdown rate, then the only way you can add muscle is if

> MPS > MPB

over time. This mean that you can either increase MPS or decrease MPB in order to help you gain muscle mass, provided MPS is positive. Now, MPB seems to be minimized by rises in insulin:

>What of a role for insulin in regulating anabolic responses to nutrition (via nutrient-induced secretion)? While it is noteworthy that provision of protein alone (i.e. without carbohydrate) causes a rise in insulin similar to that seen following a mixed meal (Atherton et al. 2010), insulin apparently does not contribute to the anabolic effects of EAAs on MPS. To exemplify this, EAA infusates robustly stimulate MPS even when insulin is ‘clamped’ at postabsorptive concentrations (5 μIU ml−1 with the β-cell inhibitor octreotide; Greenhaff et al. 2008). However, this does not mean there is no postprandial anabolic role for insulin. Indeed, in addition to the 3-fold rise in MPS, there is also a significant anti-proteolytic (∼40–50%) effect of feeding on skeletal muscle which is apparently entirely attributable to insulin. To illustrate this, a rise in insulin to just 15 μ IU ml−1 (3× postabsorptive concentrations) is sufficient to mimic the 50% inhibition of MPB (NB the maximal effect size) caused by a mixed meal (Wilkes et al. 2009). Moreover, this anti-catabolic effect cannot be recapitulated via large-dose AA infusions (18 g h−1 over 3 h) when insulin is clamped at postabsorptive concentrations (5 μU ml−1) (Greenhaff et al. 2008).

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3381813/

But, of course, a rise in insulin must also of necessity results in the conservation of fat deposit, at least to some extent.

>WIN_20171015_20_53_48_Pro.jpg
>WIN
NO. NO IT ISN'T. AND PUT YOUR ARM DOWN. ON THE FLOOR. EVERYBODY WALK THE DINOSAUR

(cont)

So my guess is that if you're trying to not gain fat while bulking, you're basically sacrificing the MPB part of the equation which means you have to make up for it entirely on the MPS side. But then again I'm a fag and I don't know how true that would be.

so does that mean that keeping insulin high, eating like a piggy, will break down LESS muscle than it would if I ate just a bit above TDEE, thus increasing the amount of muscle created?

The problem is that, as I said, I'm a fag. I don't know enough about insulin to know if you need to eat like a pig in order to keep it elevated at all time. From what I know, this sounds bad for insulin sensitivity. What's clear from the article cited, however, is that insulin is an important factor in keeping MPB down and thus improving your MPS-MPB differential. To the extent that you keep your calories low (and at 1600 I'm guessing your below maintenance) and your insulin relatively low, then you would be throwing your body into a catabolic situation which would increase MPB. Of course, it would also encourage fat oxidization, which is what you want.

But I come from the perspective of doing SS, having to increase my squat 5 pound every time I go to the gym, and of having stalled on my weight at ~151 for a week while being 6 foots and struggling with my lifts. I was doing some kind of keto intermittent fasting in the morning which was probably terrible for my insulin from an anabolic perspective. Now I'm averaging .7 pound a day in increased body weight but I have to eat ~4k cal a day.

I don't know what your programming is and so I don't know how appropriate that would be for you. It's something to keep in mind.

I'm doing Ivysaurs448, which is similar to SS but has more excercises, more volume, but with a bit lesser weights

Right now my TDEE is around 2340, so I'm trying to eat 2600-2800 and todays 4K isn't really a good example

I'l try to keep at that cal intake whilst increasing weights and reconsider once I stall

Huge mistake, user.

now imagine that you can get as much sex as you want, whenever you want it, but you dick decided to not want it

Girl I like is a drug to me.
>always attracted to older girls
>chick I used to work with, now 27 has been close to me for a while
>recently we had gotten heated while drunk but whiskey dick took over
>I got the feels
>she confessed to me previously she used to like me and was sad because now she had a boyfriend
>I dont say anything about my feelings
>fast forward
>lately he's been acting stupid and naturally she runs to me
>I give her advice and help her out because we both dislike the man
>inb4 white knight
No I'm just a giant cunt and hate how openly weak of a coward he is
>she invites me to go out with her to some haunted mansion
>I get there and apparently it was a double date
>wtf.jpg
>she bought me a souvenir and was ecstatic to see me
>later down the night we're at dinner and her friends keep trying to get to know me
>eventually hear, "hey user why dpnt you spend the night with anonette? We're all sleeping over so you should spend the night we have extra clothes."
>uh where do I sleep
>"I'm sure you two can fit on the bed."
>we both look at each other and she smiles a bit
>when we get home anonette and I entered the house first, her friends had to park the car
>I grab her and just hold her in my arms and she responds in kind
>eventually when the friends get there I start crashing on the bed
>then I hear, "user, get up. In making you a spot on the floor."
>what the hell
>I just tell her I'm not moving and she laughs awkwardly
>eventually start feeling like shit
>eventually as everyone starts knocking out she made a spot next to her (I was near the foot of the bed hanging off)and wakes me up to lay next to her
>okay...where's this going
>at this point I'm confused and knew I was unwanted so I try to bullshit that I had to watch my cousin at 4 am in the morning
>tell her I have to leave
>"oh... Why? Why now?"

I didnt want to sleep next to her knowing when I was unwanted.

what the FUCK is going on in this greentext
just what?

what's the huge mistake?

broken legs aren't real, ive had a sore leg before now just man up, get up out of that wheel chair and accept that "a broken leg" isn't real and is all your own fault

>I work as hard as I can to hide all this from friends and family because I don't want them to worry
Keep that up, the upside is you won't get to see how much more worried they will be on your funeral.

How do you deal with feeling needy with friends?

I really only have one friend and I feel like I've exhausted them by not being as happy as I used to be around them

>they
>them
>they

Are you chasing a tranny?

My best friend and I were gonna watch Happy Death Day today. I showed up and he never did. Ended up watching it alone.