Which one was worse?

Which one was worse?

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Stalin

Stalin by far.

Communism is much more evil and dangerous.

Hitler

Stalin.
If your were an ethnic Russian and devoted communist you went to bed every night worried you might get executed or sent to Siberia for no reason.
If you were an ethnic German and devoted National Socialist, or even just not publicly against it, you were fine.

So seemingly random paranoid killings are more evil than planing to deliberately wipe out entire groups of people you ruled over/planned to conquer?

Hitler. Stalin did absolutely nothing wrong and his rule was a net benefit

>planing to deliberately wipe out ENTIRE groups of people you ruled over/planned to conquer
[citation needed]

Stalin's kill count is higher only if you don't include the fact that Hitler started WW2 and wasn't allowed to continue killing because he lost the war.

>mfw people tell me religion causes wars

It's hilarious (yet at the same time sad) atheists forget that the 20th century had the most destructive wars in history - started by the atheistic ideologies of Marxism and socialism.

go home tankie
>>>/leftypol/

Yes, one is killing for a reason, right or wrong they thought what they were doing was good. The other one is killing because who cares about another million peasants.

a big if u got there

Hitler. Stalin killed more people in the end, but Hitler would have killed many more than Stalin had he succeeded.

>Hitler was an atheist
ok retard

That's exactly what Stalin did too. How many Germans are there in Königsberg now?

yes he was you dolt

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>yes he was
uneducated, opinion discarded

>atheist damage control

delicious tears. hitler was an atheist and it makes them furious

Hitler believed he was morally right.
Stalin didn't care as long as he got more powerful.

implying hitler was bad

Stalin by far.

Hitler and nazism was just a minor 12 year spergout. Stalin killed 20 million people and indirectly killed 100 million by making communism survive.

>4322121
>4322103
Can't tell if meming or just /pol/ stormweenies.

Yes because random paranoid killings kill everyone while ethnic cleansing does not effect the autism master race.

Notice how all these quotes are what he said to the plebs. Most high ranking nazis were atheists and pagans.

If Germany found out Hitler was an atheist they would have never elected him in the first place.

>if
opinion discarded

Marx said all war is economic, I think that's closer to the truth.

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Both were mass murdering monsters, when you reach a certain point there's really no quantifying who was worse as they both destroyed millions of lives. Hopefully we will never see their like again.

>A war is when one state fights another state.
>Economic.
Communism, not even once.

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Unless you can show Hitler plainly and directly disavowing Christianity in the privacy of being among his peers, which you won't, every single statement and action by him indicates a christian man.

are u a woman?

Once again more propaganda shit. Hitler was not christian, he even preferred Islam to it.

he was not a christian but even less an atheist

>According to Speer, Hitler stated in private, "The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"[207]

Btfo in one post.

Name one private convo where Hitler says he believes in God. There are plenty that sound like he didn't

this doesnt prove he was an atheist

read books

He was, however, a committed catholic, as was Mussolini, as was the pope, exposing the Holocaust as a plot of the Vatican to kill all the "Christkillers" on earth.

>Adolf Hitler's religious beliefs have been a matter of debate; the wide consensus of historians consider him to have been irreligious and anti-Christian. In light of evidence such as his vocal rejection of the tenets of Christianity,[1] numerous private statements to confidants denouncing Christianity as a harmful superstition, and his strenuous efforts to reduce the influence and independence of Christianity in Germany after he came to power, Hitler's major academic biographers conclude that he was irreligious and an opponent of Christianity. Historian Laurence Rees found no evidence that "Hitler, in his personal life, ever expressed belief in the basic tenets of the Christian church".[2] Hitler's remarks to confidants, as described in the Goebbels Diaries, the memoirs of Albert Speer, and transcripts of Hitler's private conversations recorded by Martin Bormann in Hitler's Table Talk, are further evidence of his irreligious and anti-Christian beliefs; these sources record a number of private remarks in which Hitler ridicules Christian doctrine as absurd, contrary to scientific advancement, and socially destructive.[3]

catholics are not biblical christians

you just proved our point

That's what I said above. Hitler was a Christian hating Catholic.

Ummm Hitler actually killed more Russians and slave than Stalin did. Also Stalin might have intentionally killed or sent to gulag *some ukrainians* but the vast majority were accidental. Hitler intentionally murdered and worked to death millions from a variety of different ethnic groups.

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>Hitler was a Christian hating Catholic.

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Sorry I meant Russians and slavs

His religious views were nonsense like the rest of Nazi ideology.

Hitler for his motives
Stalin for kill count
Though it's important to remember that Hitler had the means and intent to kill far more than he ever did in his short reign

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Hitler had a higher kill count though. Over 20 million Russians died during the invasion of the USSR. That's way higher than anything Stalin did.

>Hitler's Table Talk
mostly fabrication

Most of Hitler's victims were foreigners, whereas Stalin's victims were his own people

This reminds me of the founding fathers who were christian but were anti-religion.

Yet that was mostly deportations and it was localized to the territories annexed from Germany. It was heinous for sure, but nothing compared to what Hitler had in mind for Eastern Europe.

It's a well known facet of Nazi ideology that they constantly talked about the need for Lebensraum in the East and how they'd enslave or murder the Slavs living there to make way for Germans.

Except of course for the 70,000,000 Russians that died due to Stalin's orders, incompetence, and gulags.....

where did you pull that figure from lmao

Of course they're not. A two second cursory look at the papal audience hall will tell you exactly who their allegiance is to.

Unfortunately, the catholic laity judge Catholicism by their friendly priest on the nice little corner church that helps feed the poor.

You don't slaughter 68,000,000 + Christians by accident.

Yes, which is why the bible was required reading in schools, and why kids were taught the ABCs using biblical terminology:

A In Adam's Fall
We sinned all.
B Thy Life to Mend
This Book Attend.
C The Cat doth play
And after slay.
D A Dog will bite
A Thief at night.
E An Eagle's flight
Is Out of sight.
F The Idle Fool
Is Whipt at School.

Adolf Hitler. Germany. Death toll: 17 million to 20 million. ...
Joseph Stalin. USSR. Death toll: 40 million to 62 million. ...
Mao Zedong. China. Death toll: 45 million to 75 million.

does Google work in your country?

Stalin.

so how did you turn 40-62 million into 70??

poles arent the whole slavic peoples

how did 5,1 million turn into 6?

>Not lawfully persecuting heretics=anti-religious

Hitler.

Stalin's autism was contained.

>his own people

If tomorrow Putin will order every oligarch and low level government clerk be round up and shot together with his family, nobody will cry rivers about "muh own people".
Same with Stalin.

>How many Germans are there in Königsberg now?

Too many. Same for Germany.

absolute state of tankies thinking only landowners were killed

>Königsberg
what is this place you speak of? I've been looking at a map and can't find it...

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Russo-Japanese war, for example, was just that.
"Maлeнькaя пoбeдoнocнaя вoйнa"

He also hated Catholics.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_persecution_of_the_Catholic_Church_in_Germany

>70,000,000 Russians that died due to Stalin's orders, incompetence, and gulags.....

>Kill third to half of the USSR population
>It doesn't permanently drop like Ireland's population after famines.

This is your brain on stormfront.

>only landowners were killed

Mostly them. And in all honesty, fuck them. Their greed is what enabled Bolsheviks to come to power in the first place.

Karma is a bitch.

It absolutely did. Maybe check with some fact based sites.

Oh, yes, and these faggots should've thought about "our own men" before they were using usury and (((loans))) to secure their power in the villages.

I fucking love how every faggot tries to jew out both the state and their own countrymen, but starts screeching "b-but we're the same, why you bully me" when you start kicking their ass.

Have some fucking balls to stand up and admit your degeneracy instead of wiggling your ass like a fucking whore, trying to look morally high.

> fact based sites.

1488dindunuffinwrong.blogspot.com are very fact based sites, yeah.

You are incredibly stupid, please stop posting.

>he knows the future of a different timeline
show yourself out

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>Thinks Marx had good ideas.
>Not a complete fucking retard.
Choose one. My sides are in orbit.

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>we may never know the answer to this topic it just is too hard

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There was a lot of social Engineering going on in order to change christianity into a statecult. It becomes clear from the acts of the state Adolf resided over that he was a pragmatist concerning religion who saw it as a tool of control and value transmission. Maybe he was romantically inclined towards churchrites but not much more.

>Except of course for the 70,000,000 Russians that died
this are the same "people" that mock others for believing the 6 million

delusional and butthurt tankies

Hitler. Stalin only started wars with small, irrelevant nations. Hitler started a fucking world war.

Inorite. It's fucking ridiculous. There were no more than a million people in GULAG, in other words less than the current US prison population.

Daily reminder that the German people didn't elect the Nazis in a majority. They only got ~30% of the vote if I remember correctly.

Correction.
Soviet archives indicate a combined camp and colony population upwards of1.6 millionin 1939, according to V. P. Kozlov.

Stalin

>goyim, pay the (((honest))) price for bread
>hehehe city dwelling goyim are rioting
>REEE COMRADE COMISSAR, WHY DO YOU ROUNDING ME UP?

Also, amerimutt, stop tryng to tell me, russian, how kulaks dindu nuffin and were "hardworking citizen".

I didn't know Stalin massacred Georgians.

Arseniy Roginsky, the researcher of Memorial, who can't be considered Stalin supporter in anyway, and who was researching the number of repressed people claimed in his interview that from 1918 to 1987 state security organs arrested 7.1 millions people.

That also includes banditism, forging money, contraband, "forest brothers" etc.

Funniest thing is that he didn't decide the publish his research since everyone in his company (liberal intelligentsia) believe in 150 gorrilions personally killed by Stalin.

Here is link to interview (in Russian):
old.memo.ru/d/124360.html

70 millions is a small number. Usually they use AT LEAST 100 millions.

>Hitlerboo
>Calling other's retards.

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>makes post mocking the state
>post nazi
he was right marxist are fuckin retarded

they were both evil, but at least the nazis were cool evil

Amerimutt fapping for Hitler has no right to call other people retards, mate.
Especially since Nazi germany, as it shows, was pretty fucking degenerate and was encouraging the bane of all incels at /pol/ and "le ebul jew subversion" - single motherhood.

You have no power here, inbred genetical trash, who hopes for a beta rebellion.

>Believing kikes lies

Stalin but he redeemed himself and made all lives he sacrificed worth it in a sick way.
Hitler was just shit at everything, even at being a totalitarian leader.