I'VE BEEN ON >CLEAN KETO >1G PROTEIN / BW IN LBS >500 KCAL DEFICIT >INTERMITTENT FASTING >400MG CAFFEINE / DAY >HEAVY WORKOUT 4 TIMES A WEEK >KICKBOX 2 TIMES A WEEK >CARDIO ONCE A WEEK ON TOP OF THAT >NEETLE TEA DAILY FOR MONTHS NOW AND I JUST CANT FUCKING REACH THAT LEVEL OF LEANNESS, I ALREADY WEAR FIT SLIM S SIZED CLOTHES, WHERE ARE MY WASHBOARD ABS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA MY CUTTING HAS BEEN STALLING FOR WEEKS NOW, HELP, HELP
Those blocky abs are the result of hypertrophy training, diet just gives you less fat, you still need to train muscle for it to grow and show.
Are you even doing cable crunches with heavy weight? Besides that guy has skinny legs, meaning he mainly trains his abdomen and is flexing almost to get a hernia from it with lightning in his favor
Lucas Campbell
on top of squat and deadlift I do train my abs in the hypertrophy range, twice a week
Evan Diaz
>Keto >Doing things right
you can only pick one
Jason Williams
>no argument
Luke Brooks
Do HIIT everyday while fasted, workout at least 6/7 days (hit abs hard everyday).
You're welcome (I had abs almost like this when doing that).
Jaxson Hall
Follow Lyle Mcdonald's "stubborn fat loss protocol"
Anthony James
It needs to be bumped up to every other day then. I'm serious, if there is one area that can use the constant workout it's the abs
Camden Richardson
Roids or genetics. If you're at your natty limit, but not satisfied, then you must roid. That said though, if you're lifting for girls (which you are if you care this much about abs), you should know that for every girl who gets wet to roided up athletes, there's another who gets wet to ottermode fuccbois.
Both Olympic weight lifters and Korean pop singers can be overwhelmed and drowned in pussy juice in a heart beat, so just be aware that you don't need roids to impress the sloots
Elijah Price
>1G PROTEIN / BW IN LBS Ya dun goofed
Jeremiah Anderson
explain
Mason Lee
you're missing one very important thing though: ROIDS. you don't get that lean while retaining that muscle fullness without steroids.
Elijah Thomas
definitely more protein and ab only exercises needed
also dehydration
Daniel Hughes
I'm eating 1.5g protein per lb body weight
Cooper Cook
why so?
Ethan Hill
>I ALREADY WEAR FIT SLIM S SIZED CLOTHES
Jack Morris
Unless you are bulking, it is unnecessary imo. I'm personally getting 1.8g/kg, or 180g at 225lbs bw.
Jayden Jackson
No matter what any of the first year lifters here tell you, you will not get that blocked ab dry look without chemical enhancements
Asher Lopez
>If you're at your natty limit Essentially nobody on this board is at their natty limit.
Lincoln Thomas
Roids
Landon Lopez
It's time to bulk and gain some muscle senpai, you can't cut forever if you're already thin pack on carbs and keep up the protein and work just as hard. Ow and stop the meme diets.
Leo King
>Wearing Small clothes
Noah James
If you are bulking you need .8 per pound max breh
Caleb Hall
>while fasted Why is fasted cardio good? Or HIIT while fasted? Does it burn fat more effectively?
Josiah Collins
>he fell for the cutting as a natty meme
Jose Rogers
>op's pic guy >not natty ayy lmao indeed
Gavin Harris
can someone please link me to a decent ab routine. im fucking hopeless
Jeremiah Johnson
Ab wheel
Robert Walker
It took me some time to get one figured out so this isn't a link but I like doing this
Bicycles - 1 min V ups - 1 min Rest - 30 secs Scissors - 1 min Leg raises - 30 secs Plank - 30 secs Rest - 30 secs Side plank - 30 secs Side plank - 30 secs
Then I like to do maybe 3 sets of Russian Twists aiming for 40 reps but 50 if I can with a 7 KG medicine ball
Then hanging leg raises. I've not done them in ages and did them bodyweight but you can add a dumbbell in between your feet. I've heard 12-15 reps is good for ab exercises like this but I used to do 10. Go for 12-15 if you can though.
Then hanging knee raises. I did like 10 of these with an 8 KG dumbbell in between my feet.
I don't have abs like the guy pictured but stepping up my ab routine did give me much better more visible abs doing this 2-3 times a week.
Carson Brooks
Manlets, when will they learn
Carson Brooks
git gud
Robert Long
please. i beg you. bulk. PLEASE
lean bulk even. just bulk
Jayden Parker
Shouldn't we be organizing XCOM by now?
James Russell
sure but how much anavar?
Jeremiah Hernandez
140lbs underage b& giving advice on Veeky Forums
Parker Wright
n0
Jaxon Rogers
>HOW THE FUCK DO YOU GET THIS BODY
by running a few grams of gear with 8 ius of hgh minimum for X amount of time and then taking diuretics before you take the picture
Chase Ross
bro-sci
Jason Collins
Advice doesn't have to come from experience, if it did then the bro science would actually be worth following despite it coming from seemingly accomplished lifters. Good advice comes from research, which I do a lot of. Not that I actually gave any real advice, I just posted what I do because there's basically no pre-made ab routines online.
Ryan Thompson
Shut the fuuuuuck up it's ebcause of steroids
Carter Young
christ. add some weight.
Andrew Hill
>pic reltated > every day
Dylan White
I've not been doing any lifting for a long amount of time but for the time I have I tried bulking for a lot of it at 3000 calories a day but I'm not even sure if that was accurate. Then I lost my appetite majorly and could barely get in 2000 cals a day for a while. Now my appetite is coming back and I've been forcing myself to eat more so hopefully it'll continue and I'll actually be able to bulk successfully. My goal completely revolves around bulking which ever way so I in no way intend to stay like this, thanks for the concern though.
Robert Morris
Your body targets stored fat over dietary fat bc you haven't eaten so it shifts the more stubborn fat.
Christian Jackson
Bro if he eating a KETO diet he needs more protein that someone eating carbs.
Daniel Turner
You didn't do HIIT everyday. Did you? Doing HIIT more than twice (20mins each) per week impacts your performance negatively, and you will burn out.
Low sugar diet + lift as usual + HIIT 2x a week. Do this for three or four months and presto. No need to cut calories.
Camden Lee
>being so retarded you don't know what insulin is >being so retarded that you want washboards abs as a white male where bodyfat is important for vitamin D >being so retarded that you are brainwashed by MUH AESTHETICS that you dedicate your life and most of your energy to it
Blake Young
Aaaah what is it with this stupid "Keto is basically only eating Proteins". Did any of those fuccbois who makes these pics ever even invested a minute into reading what keto is. Or is this just bait and I just took it like a bitch?
Daniel Watson
>forward shoulders
Daniel Morris
This routine is actually pretty good, but that's a sad looking A-shaped torso desu. Might just be a bad angle, though.
Owen Sanchez
Seconding this, real HIIT even twice a week can not be sustained. As HIIT implies that you go about 100% perf every high intensity intervall your recovery will just be longer than one shitty day.
If you'd just do some interval training at a lower, mid-range intensity it could be possible tho.
btw the leangains dude says to take 10g bcaa before fasted workout. Just sayan.
Landon Cox
What's an A shaped torso? Thanks about the routine too
Evan Turner
Does he say why to take BCAA prior? I always take them during/post but not before.
Daniel Lopez
This, desu, sprints are hard if you push your hardest every interval, and they tear up any weak point you have in your musculature, its tough to do them even twice a week, I've never experienced DOMs that bad that didn't stop after the third or fourth time training.
Cooper Cook
A true Jacqueline Skellington! Her Halloween costumes would be amazing.
Joshua Wilson
Bulk and get stronk. Then cut.
Kayden Thomas
Are you grant gustin?
Connor Parker
Are you sleeping with electric abs on full yet?
Angel Cox
Where do you get the >where bodyfat is important for vitamin D from?
Looking through a quick google search rather lets me think more bf%=less VitD utilized. Yes I knew beforehand it stores VitD, but this is only relevant as you utilize this stored VitD if you run on your bodyfat. Let's say you start water fasting, your only source of VitD might be the amounts stored in your bf or the one you create in your skin with sunlight (excluding VitD supplements in Oil form. VitD Pills might be an option tho)
Jaxon Hill
He says: >"Technically, training is not completely fasted - that would be detrimental. The pre-workout protein intake, with its stimulatory effect on protein synthesis and metabolism, is a crucial compromise to optimize results. The 8-hour feeding phase starts with the post-workout meal."
If you want those abs you have to put on weight You're not going to grow the muscle eating at a deficit
Kayden Hill
When the HIIT DOMS kicks in oh boy...
Jack Fisher
you legit look disgusting. put on weight please you damn skelly
Levi Kelly
In the process of it, some advice would be useful though as it's way easier said than done. Also no one I know thinks that, they're actually impressed lmao but the average person will see a vague outline of a six pack and say you look good.
Andrew Howard
Thanks m8. Ill have a read of those links. Appreciate it.
Ryan Cruz
How do I achieve starving Jew mode?
Benjamin Bennett
>This girl
Holy fuck, i have the weirdest boner right now.
Jaxson Turner
It took me three years of intense training and dieting to get to that point. First year I had to bulk up 50lbs to put on the size, 2nd year I cut 50lbs to strip the fat, 3rd year was a year of slowing adding lean mass.
No cheat days. No skipped training. No booze. No chinese food. Eating 200+g protein a day. Always sleeping 8+ hrs. Always training to max intensity. Strained nearly every muscle at least once.
I had to stop cardio completely and just diet harder. It made calculating my TDEE too hard when I had to worry about how much cardio I was burning. I spent six months horrifically depressed as I cut from 12 to 8% BF.
Worth it? No. Yes. Maybe. I don't know.
Ayden Walker
Do specific exercises to just burn belly fat. Like make sure you are doing lots of situps every day.
Henry Campbell
What are you a fucking womens magazine fitness writer? Did you ever read anything about how bodyfat works. Read the sticky, or at least whatever links still work.
To spoiler you as you probably won't read it anyway, local body fat removal does not exist outside of surgical fat removal.
Parker Collins
That sure are some tiny legs for such impressive abs
Anthony Morales
You need Cardio 3 times a week to get this cut
Christian Carter
>Abs >Hypertrophy training
Explain
Carter Peterson
>S SIZED CLOTHES
Gavin Rivera
start bulking god damn EAT EVERTHING YOU SEE! 24/7
Eli Ramirez
>hot sauce and mustard >0 calories
Jordan Ramirez
what the fuck
her neck is fucking gigantic
Brody Miller
Easy, do abs until it hurt.
Hunter Brown
It does not, in fact it could be eve worse, this has been debunked since like 2012 just google it before giving advice faggot.
Andrew Hughes
can you link to this study? I've heard a million different studies tied to lifting while fasted and most of them seem to say that it helps fight """""""Stubborn fat"""""""" which I know is probably a bullshit term but still.
Andrew Watson
dude thats a variation of keto where you only eat protein, if you're not eating carbs you will enter ketosis no matter how much fat you eat. you talk like a reddit fag.
Samuel Cruz
Just google "fasted cardio myth" and you find the consensus. I found out this year also, I always thought it was better.
>A large body of research on sports performance during Ramadan concludes that aerobic activities, such as 60 minutes of running, has a small yet significant negative impact on performance. A very large confounder here is dehydration, as Ramadan fasting involves fluid restriction. That said, anaerobic performance, such as weight training, is much less impacted.
So basically running in a fasted state is shit but lifting shouldn't be affected.
Well that fucking sucks, my only time to run is in the morning and I'll vomit with any food in my stomach.
Jaxson Cruz
> Olympic weight lifters > not on roids
pick one
Thomas Lewis
how do they get past the screening tests?
Asher Wright
SO what is your body using for energy then in a fasted state faggot?
Anthony Walker
Is that what you concluded from the paragraph you posted??????????
Luis Carter
yup, considering he recommends IF while lifting.
Luis Martinez
did you bother reading the link?
>In conclusion, training in the fasted state does not affect your performance during weight training, which is what most people reading this are interested in. However, training in a completely fasted state is still not something I recommend for optimal progress. Research is quite clear on the benefits of pre-workout and post-workout protein intake for maximizing protein synthesis. For this reason, I suggest supplementing with 10 g BCAA prior to fasted training.
John Howard
Twinks are cancer. Eat, faggot.
Jackson Green
No, thats why I specifically asked you about the paragraph YOU posted. Did you even read my post? Also >Mentions running but links Ramadan paragraph stating fluid restriction So drink something and run fasted so you dont vomit man. Its not optimal but better than nothing >again post paragraph not about running to make a point about running. Plenty of people workout before eating, I don't know why everyone is freaking out over fasted cardio.
Lucas Davis
wait, I thought you were arguing against fasted cardio
Chase Morris
Nope
Julian Diaz
Oh. Well whoops. Accept this muscle waifu as apology.
Nolan Howard
This desu.
Pic related
Carter Kelly
Oh lol true. Oops
Easton Brooks
Clenbuterol
Google it
Otherwise you should know that it's purel genetic, some people are born with muscles above their skin...
Joshua Ramirez
>cable crunches with heavy weight isn't this bad for your spine?