Why did Fascism fail in other Western nations?

Because winners don't fall for extremism.

Here, you dropped this:

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Because 90% of the population are lemmings. As long as the system supplies them with adequate food, shelter and comfort, they will not care when their civil rights and privileges are slowly taken way from them, when minorities within their society suffer, or if their government outright calls for their kind to be murdered and raped. They have not an inkling of noble ideals nor a belief in a higher purpose, unless they need to in order to keep their comforts. Just look at Britain. In a city of 100.000, over 1500 young girls were brutally raped, tortured, gangraped and prostituted, many of them being forced into a abortions after accidental pregnancies. For 20 years, the authorities knew about it, and not only did they not take action against the rapists, they actively shut down any investigation into the matter and went so far as to arrest the fathers of rape victims for trying to intervene in their daughters' rape. These authorities admitted to doing so because the rapists were Asian. And what did the British people do? Nothing. The Labour Party's voter share dipped by less that 1%, despite the local council having been, and still being, Labour-dominated. The local police were not punished in any real way. None in the government were imprisoned. There weren't any riots. The people simply forgot about it and moved on to the next outrage, and within a year people started talking about a "worrying rise in Islamophobia and xenophobia", despite the fact that these Muslims wanted their children raped! Yet somehow, the Briton cares more about being seen as a good person than his own children, his own nation. He is completely demoralized, an empty shell of a human being. Fascism cannot thrive in such conditions. (1/2)

I can't speak for the UK but in America it was never popular because the fascism is complete anathema to the cultural foundations of the country. Though its changing due to the modern urbanite liberals open embrace of many of fascisms tenets.

Germany, on the other hand, was a nation in collapse. The government was crumbing beneath communist agitation and the Nazi's unwillingness to work with the ruling party. The economy was being crushed beneath the weight of unsustainable debt. The old institutions had completely collapsed, leaving the people with no refuge which to turn to in these troubled times. People couldn't afford bread, and, paradoxically, now had ample time for the pursuit of ideals and greater things. The Nazis pounced on this, and offered the German people a choice: Status quo and starvation, or struggle and victory. And it worked. People who before had taken no heed of the liberalization of Germany under the Weimar Republic suddenly filled with hatred and disgust at the perceived short-sightedness, rampant materialism and unbridled degeneracy of the Weimar order. Some went to communism, of course, but in many Hitler's explanation of this being an inside job, the fault not simply their own greed and apathy but of Jewish bankers pushing these traits upon them with cheap American loans and media propaganda. The Germans suddenly believed that they did not bring themselves into the present situation, but they could save themselves from it, and that was all it took to push them to fascism.
But, of course, as soon as the new order came crashing down and the Allies moved in with food and shelter for the struggling, the German people happily accepted their yoke again. Now, they are even more liberal than before, uncaring about their leader being a former Communist, because she provides a stable regime that supports the middle class, and only a few women are raped by the foreigners that provide for their needs. AfD, often claimed to be Nazis, makes no claim of struggle, only the same tired debate of economics and protecting the peoples interest. And the Germans then meekly protest this discussion only long enough to prove they are on the right side. Thus the cycle of the lemming continues.

>urbanite
>fascist

Think you mean communism, champ.

In America, it's because we're not tribal lunatics. Threadly reminder Europeans are Africans with smartphones.

Dis, bongland and Yankeeland are both the embodiment of individuality and liberalism.
Fascism is not compatible as it rejects the individual for the collective.

Wow, it's almost like people don't enjoy living in totalitarian shitholes, sucking the dear leader's cock for the rest of their lives
That is until it inevitably spirals down into infighting and civil war

There is no meaningful difference to the average amerigoblin.

Can you explain to me what literally anything you're going on about has to do with Britain in the inter-war period?

USA and UK
>functional autarkies
>centuries old democratic traditions
>high standard of living for non-colonials
>no nationalistic desire to retake lost lands
Germany, Italy, Japan
>arn't autarkies but are desperate to be
>weak democratic traditions
>standards of living on the decline post WW1
>Desire to rebuild rome/german empire/co-prosperity sphere

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Great Britain and the US was more unlikely because of Anglo individualism, but I'm pretty sure many other continental European nations would eventually become Fascist had WW2 not happened

I won't go that far, but the reality is America doesn't hold onto national hatreds for centuries like a lot of the world does.

The US and the UK are moving to fascism today. Stronger and stronger central control of government. Unaccountable bureaucracy rule. Corporatism. Civil liberties being strangled. Local and regional governance neutered. Central government action and spending on automatic pilot, fiscally irresponsible. Military confrontation and action always a first choice in foreign affairs. You don't need swastikas and roman salutes to have fascism.

Same shit different color. Both are anathema to free society.

And all the while being cheered on the plebes who want the state to take care of them so they won't have to take responsibility for their own lives or for the people around them. As Milton keenly points out, few men love freedom what the rest love is license.

Roosevelt was a sort of fascist without calling himself such.

Because fascism's inherently a revanchist political ideology. There was literally no point to vote in an extremist party when the British Empire was going strong and everything was well. America could've gone some form of authoritarian if the depression got worse.

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>are
In the case of UK, it’s definitely "was"

>Communism and Fascism are the same
t. politically illiterate

One reason, not the biggest reason but one worth mentioning, is that fascism was a largely reactionary ideology. Wherever you see a rapid increase in the numbers of communists in a given area you also see a rapid increase in fascists in a given area. Adolf Hitler went into politics for the sole purpose of countering the rise of communism in Germany. Many other fascist parties, like the Iron Guard, gained popularity rapidly because the citizens didn't want communism and they saw fascism as the only way to counter communism. A large reason Fascism didn't prevail in Great Britain and America is because Communism didn't rise as rapidly in Great Britain and America as it did in Eastern Europe. The main, and only, exporter of Communist infiltrators and revolutionaries was the Soviet Union which explains why Fascist counties historically are those that were within a close distance to the SU. GB and America simply weren't close enough to the SU and didn't receive nearly as many infiltrators as the SU's immediate neighbors did.

>There was literally no point to vote in an extremist party when the British Empire was going strong and everything was well.
The bongs were bankrupt in 1931, lad. They couldn't pay their debts. They cut pay to their navy, which proceeded to mutiny. Bongistan was far from "well". Revolution was a distinct possibility, as their overlords well understood.

this. waking nightmare in bongland now, civil war 5 when?

same reason others did, mostly muh economy and comunism

>Why did Fascism fail in other Western nations?

But it didn't user its just that we live under Fascism disguised as 'Social Democracy'. The state became massively more intrusive and dominant during WW2 and forever after.

>fascism is when the government is powerful and there's a surveillance state

no

>inb4 its communism instead

also wrong

Well first things first other countries were faring pretty well. Fascism and communism are the go-to of failing states, not healthy thriving ones, as both lead down the same path of dictatorship and corruption that no populace would go towards unless things really were a flaming wreck.
People can yell about what their ideologies are but nobody short of fringe crazies with no political impact are ever going to hop aboard the arming a strongman and his angry mob path unless literally nothing else was working.
There's a reason fascism and communism only ever truly took full hold control of third world countries, failing states, wartorn fuckholes, and ex-colonies. All of them were unstable and vulnerable and didn't have anything better to do.

Only problem is, no nationalism, and certainly no ethnonationalism.

You're just describing a cyberpunk dystopia.

Both communism and fascism are reactionary ideologies that the public only gravitate towards during desperate times. Communism when capitalism doesn't work; Fascism when communism is at the doors.

This

People only turn to radicalism after getting btfo

>strong centralized control
>invasive government controlling every aspect of social life
>press and intellectual censorship
>means of production controlled by bureaucrats or companies that are extensions of the state

The difference between the two are very little while the similarities are great.

That’s incorrect. You should use more accurate words.
Not all strains of authoritarian politics are the same. There’s authoritarians everywhere now, but that doesn’t make all of them fascists or relevant to the discussion at all.
Yeah, and after WWI plenty of veterans and survivors of the war were disillusioned with internationalism and ended up becoming fascist. There were plenty in Britain for a while. As to why they were never able to seize power, I’m not certain.

Corporatocracism = Corporatism. Fascist corporatism had nothing to do with corporate control. If anything, it put the businesses under state control and awarded those loyal to the fascist leadership more power, but at the end of it they were still subservient to the state.

Shit, I meant
Corporatocracism =/= Corporatism