Let me tell you the truth about nofap

Let me tell you the truth about nofap.

Erectile dysfunction, porn induced erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation is most likely caused by anxiety?

Don't believe me? If you don't have this problem fapping, it most likely because you don't have anxiety fapping. Porn induces erectile dysfunction is just a meme. It's should be called anxiety induces erectile dysfunction.

In fact, nofap can be unhealthy for you. Focusing your attention on ED, PED and PE can give you anxiety. Anxiety can then again cause ED and PE. ...and vice versa.

I'm not saying nofap is a meme, there is simply not enough evidence for it. Anxiety causing ED and PE got plenty. Listen to the science, not the pseudoscience.

Most of your faggots are autistic because you over analyse everything, which is a symptom of anxiety. Consider therapy and/or mindfulness (mediation).

>t. porn addict with a bacis in psychology

I agree desu senpai, a lot of nofap is over exaggerated and really only applies to the guys who fap 2+ times a day regularly. They try to paint everyone with a broad brush stroke. Went ~90 days nofapping until I realized I never got laid because I'm fucking autistic and can't talk to girls.

I know what you're saying, however when you say listen to the evidence you should supply some reputable sources

Nofap is a meme, noporn is the real deal.

>This
I believe autismo is caused by anxiety. You are careful what to say because you want people to like you, only to realize people would like you better if you talked more.

I'm not educated enough to tell you what it is caused by, but I think it's a symptom of perfectionism. You want to do everything perfect so everyone can like them. But it is irrational to believe everyone can like you.

It's most likely caused by a lack of father figure. You don't know how to behave (like your father), and go to behave like what society and your mother tell you what to behave like.

I agree that most ED is caused by anxiety but there is a difference between getting an erection when fapping and only being able to get an erection when fapping to porn. Porn can also fuck with your head by desensitizing you to vanilla sex. There comes a point when you are so far gone that missionary sex doesn't get a rise out of you and your dick just doesn't understand why she won't let you get her in the pile driver position and choke her until she passes out.

You may or may not be correct. But you are definitely a degenerate for watching porn. You literally assume the role of a cuck when you watch porn. Unless you're watching solo which I doubt.

This is correct. But I don't think you're right about the father figure. I had a very strong one. I think maybe too strong of parents. I had a very strong personality growing up and was extremely outgoing. As we got older, I started running into more people who didn't like me/wanted to bring me down. For whatever reason I think I allowed it to happen.

Anxiety is mostly caused by lack of self confidence. The good thing is that just as I lost my self confidence, it can be gained. I'm working on it now. It's difficult and this might sound lame but the best thing you can do is love yourself. Be your best friend and your confidence will come back slowly.

Go on whichever medical side about erectile dysfunction. The number one cause is anxiety.

That's is a good argument, which I used myself on my nofap journey, only to realize it's stupid. Ofcourse looking at porn going to give you an erection easier than having no stimulus. Males are more visual in their sexuality than women. Just look at a public restroom. All you need is two circles and a "Y".

Porn is degenerate and disgusting. Looking at it is absolutely bad for your psyche. It damages your relationships as well and will generally make you unhappy and anxious. I really don't fucking care if you believe it or not. It's actually quite intuitive and I don't need some kike doctors telling me otherwise. Fuck you.

Have you ever got turned on by hearing a woman moaning while someone have sex in another room? Your body is primitive. It doesn't know if you are a cuck or not. It just get turned on by naked women and the sound they make.

If you get turned on by the lad fucking your GF, then you are a cuck. There is a difference.

Porn have come to a point where the visual stimulus is better than your ugly GF. Doesn't mean that getting turned on by hotter women is damaging your brain.

Your mind knows if you're a cuck or not. It knows you're deriving pleasure from watching another man fuck the woman for whom you are lusting. Watching porn is cuck training.

Yeah, no fucking shit.

90% of people on Veeky Forums who advocate nofap do it because it's an in-joke. They're trying to be funny. It's like the Veeky Forums version of the banana or fingerboxes or the "dead" girl on /b/.

There are a few idiots who've fallen for it though, but whatever. Unless your job relies on people jacking off (porn studio owner maybe?) then don't worry about it.

IF you're trying to help people with sexual performance issues, then the same stands - fuck them. If they're coming to Veeky Forums for advice rather than a doctor, they deserve to continue suffering.

Obvious porn shill is obvious

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Nice try, Schlomo.

Porn addict here, it desensitizes you

When you go deep enough, where you need more and more extreme fucked up fetish porn to get you excited and to cum, you've fucked up

Nothing would turn me on more than seeing a girl fart some bbc cum out of her ass into her white boyfriends mouth while she ridicules him about his tiny white cock

extreme cbt, extreme humiliation, cuckolds cleaning up bbc cum

Then when I do get with a girl it's fucking boring, regular sex has very little to offer, it's simply not exciting enough for me to get erect naturally

And your anxiety theory is flawed, I take enough valium when meeting up with girls that I feel literally zero anxiety, and I HAVE to take viagra to get hard, and sex is fucking boring. I've had a girl cry because I was unable to get hard, she assumed she was too unattractive for me to get turned on, ever since that day I've added viagra into the mix.

Thankfully I met some kinky bbw on fetlife so it's at least a little exciting since she understands fetish and humiliation etc.

Why would someone shill for something that's unbiquitous and produced everywhere extremely cheaply in uncountable different formats since before written language? It's like calling someone a wood shill.

Have you considered just not fapping 2 to 3 times a day?

uh huh...

I'm not arguing in favor of no fap, just that porn is a bigger issue. I'm not disagreeing that males aren't more visually stimulated, and I'm not even arguing against porn on a moral ground, or against watching it altogether but if you've gotten so desensitized by watching porn that you can only get an erection when you're watching it, versus a woman's touch or your own, then you have a problem. And there are plenty of men out there that are dealing with that. You have to be able to recognize when you've gotten to that point and be able to do something about it.

Most of my sexual experiences have come during times where I've given up porn, I'm not saying the "damage" from extreme porn is permanent but it's at least very long lasting

It certainly affects some people more than others. Just seems to me like often an over reaction, like people who think they have clinical depression or anxiety because sometimes they are sad or nervous

>? If you don't have this problem fapping, it most likely because you don't have anxiety fapping.
You can still fap and even cum with a less than fully erect dingus. Unless you're rock hard when you want and can maintain that hardness until you cum, you have a problem. Most people who are addicted to fapping and/or porn have his problem. Not fapping for a long time fixes this problem. Anxiety is a different problem and has pretty much nothing to do with nofap.

People always take things to the extreme. If you cant fap in the shower and cum, then maybe lay off the fucking porn for a while.

ITS NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE

This. It's literally true. I had very slight ED for YEARS. Made me so depressed. Went to dozens of doctors to figure it out. Nothing. I come to this faggot website and do noporn and now I'm starting to get full erections again. I wasn't even bad with porn. Maybe once a day MAX and usually only once per week. It still affected me.

I have no doubt that abstaining from masturbation and porn is healthy. I am married so I still fuck my wife. If I weren't married I would allow myself to mastirbate to soft core pictures or my imagination once a week tops.

>t. porn addict with a bacis in psychology

No one care about you and your useless kike degrees you fucking piece of shit. Return to facebook or reddit: maybe they'll "upvote" you there.
You made me legit angry ffs.

I'm on day 16 of nofap/noporn/nocum (as a "reboot") and I feel extremely well (mostly more social, more confidence, more energy/focus and more attention from girls). I don't nor never had any "PE"/"ED" whatever the fuck you say stupid idiot ever, and I knew that nofap was good before reading about it anywhere, from experience only.

Please fuck off from Veeky Forums, if you don't have the motivation to stop masturbation that is your problem only, don't try to discourage others.

so the solution is xanax + Viagra cocktail?

Nofap gave my severe phimosis. I had to get a circumcision due to it. Don't do Nofap it's retarded.

Sounds like you did noshower and nosoap which is never advised.

Porn is totally seperate for me from sex.
I fap to porn twice a day every day, probably double that on weekends and I'm at the point where only seriously heinous shit can make me cum but even seeing a girls tits irl makes me diamond hard and I've never had PE or anything
I'm sure it's mostly genetics/luck/health but you guys make it sound like looking at boobs on your computer makes you mentally retarded or insane or something
If you have anxiety so severe that your dick turns to spaghetti then you have way bigger problems than seeing too many different pussies

How old are you?

Shit didn't start fucking with me until I was 27.

didn't fap for 20 days, relapsed today.
I felt what i would call a test boost a week ago, but that's it. I'll just try to ritualize my meat beating and do it once a week, that'll do it.

damn, that's like the best case scenario, sounds like you just have high sex drive or you recover very fast

if I have a really good fap session, my sex drive could be dead for 3-4 days

I could still fap during those days, but it's not the same

NoFap is like a cult.

These are members of a cult who go on and on about how dark and depressive their live was, how they were stuck in a shit situation, bad job and didn't know what to do with their live, BUT LO AND BEHOLD, they stopped fapping and now they make pics where they spread their arms in front of a field and have a porsche and a ferrari and make tons of money and have two Russian twins as their sex slaves.

It's that cultish attitude that annoys me the most and that's one of the main reasons why I have a hard time buying what they are selling. You don't buy stuff from a cult, after all...

>You made me legit angry ffs.
>I'm on day 16 of nofap and I feel extremely well

You have anger issues on Veeky Forums, you're not extremely well.

>Porn is totally separate FOR ME from sex
Congratulations. I wasn't speaking in absolutes that it applied to everyone. I did say that it presented problems for many men and that they needed to realize when it gets to that point and do something about it. Just like some people can handle a trip to the casino without losing everything they own, others can't, and they need to stay away.

No fap was created for desperate men to attempt at ridding themselves of their flaws. On paper it sounds legit, but in reality all it does is suppress ones sexuality.

That's ridiculous that you blame the porn and think Valium should help. Psyche meds, including benzos, are fucking notorious for trashing libido and causing ED.

If you dont self insert then you are a cuck faggot

>You are careful what to say because you want people to like you, only to realize people would like you better if you talked more.
Goddamn this hits too close to home. I've given up on socializing with people at this point, I'd talk to people more but I feel like such an autist around people and never get the point I want to across properly.

>Not fapping for a long time fixes this problem.
Or you know, 24 hours

>WHY WON'T YOU MASTURBATE RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Damn OK bro you sure don't look like you have any problems controlling your urges or anything.

No one is saying you can't not masturbate, we're saying not to lie and prank impressionable guys into denying themselves for no reason

>knows he is a porn addict
>still watches porn

you get the feeling back once you BLOCK ALL PORN

you must also block Veeky Forums as Veeky Forums is what mostly makes me lose nofap

>cant cum inside gf after month of having sex
>do nofap for 2 weeks
>can cum now inside gf

you're wrong

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Did you read the rest of the post? I mentioned that it might be a specific case

There's no lie

There is nothing but positives coming from giving up masturbation and porn consumption.

Other than inconvinient boners and greater propensity to do something stupid to get your dick wet

But why do you think people are lying about this?We just tried something and it had noticeable positive benefits for us.That was our experience.

I guess "lie" wasn't fair, actually just "wrong", though I'm sure SOME propagate it as a prank. The same benefits you observed quitting cold turkey would be observed just by cutting down to no more than once a day

I think you're right desu.