Be 32 year old kv with no friends

If you wanna be funny about it, when you guys are alone you could say "I VANT TO SMELL YOUR FARTS" using an accent like the count from sesame street.

If you wanna be redneck neck about it tell her you want to smell her exhaust

If you want to be passionate say "Fart for me! let me smell you innermost secrets"

This. They already decided if they want to fuck you the first time they looked at you. Protip: they didn't want to. Join another dancing club and hire an escort to go with so you don't look like a loser

what would have made them want to fuck me? can i recover from their first impression?

>hire an escort
seems excessive
it's group lessons, we change partners every couple of minutes. if i bring an escort, she'll be dancing with other guys the whole time (unless i choose to dance with the escort the entire time. but then i wouldn't meet any of the other girls)

regardless, seems like a bad idea tbqh

If you seem confident, high status, and taken then they will want to fuck you. If you stroll in with a hot escort then all of the women be jealous and want to know why she is with you. They will think you have a big dick because she is out of your league.

30 something friendless faggot here. It is god dam next to impossible to make friends with out a active social circle this late in the game. And if some crazy reason you get a girl who wants to date you. She's gonna wanna meet your friends.

bump

be yourself

>PUA
HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA
THIS
THIS IS WHY YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IT

you don't have much going for you my dude. just find shorter girls if they're not into short guys though.

don't listen to this fag. PUA is absolute meme bullshit. Don't go to theredpill or any seduction bullshit. Literally, just be fun, charming and have a good time. You're probably not as ugly as you think. Talk to these girls like normal human beings and it will all begin to come naturally.

Be really open, flirtatious and friendly. Grab them by the hips and be passionate and dance with them. They will like it, Prince fucked literal 10/10s all day and he was a 5'5 half black manlet. You just gotta believe in yourself. If you're too much of a pussy to overcome your own fear of rejection then you will never accomplish anything of worth.

>Treat women nicely like my male friends and have fun with them
>They are all attracted to me and I could call multiple girls over right now to fuck if I wanted
Really can't stand these /r9k/ bleedover bitter beta males. It's so pathetic.

Needing to act a certain way to attract women means you

>A: only attract insecure women through manipulation

And

>B: your natural personality is shit, as you weren’t meant to spread your seed and copulate with anything above a 5

Lmfao. You’re the bitter beta male you fucking phony ass loser. Too much of a coward to be a normal person so you act like someone you’re not, even though it doesn’t make women more attracted, just keeps you delusional. Fucking loser.

Just B.E. yourself

I'm just being myself though? Damn you're mad as fuck, kill yourself beta lmao.

this. girls can smell that PUA and redpill tactics these days. had a group of girls at the bar tell me this 40 year old tryhard was a PUA and wanted me to help steer him away. girls are actually very self-aware in social situations and can read body language and demeanor like a motherfucker

/r9k/ spergs don't realize that females can pick up on their pathetic energy and malicious intent. Girls may not be the most rational but they are most certainly perceptive and very good at noticing details.

>just be fun, charming and have a good time
how do i be these things if I've never been these before?

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>noticing details
True, but not about what you allude to. Women are more visual in men in that they are far better at judging one's genetic health by way of analyzing physical appearance.
They are also more aware and perceptive of the existence and order of social hierarchies. Which is the reason why women love gossip and slandering more than men, generally. Its a way to discuss who is of high and low worth within a social circle
However you behave is always perceived in conjunction with how you look (halo effect)

so how do i not give off pathetic vibes in real life?

don't be yourself

Be funny and charming and make all the other women there like you and flirt with you. Fuck a few of them for good measure.

Once you've established your social dominance in her setting she will want to fuck you and will make any excuse to get you to come home with her so that she can show the the fuckslut that she truly is.

Good advice for a 32 year ole virgin lmao

GUYS LIKE YOUR FUCKING INFURIATE ME OP, YOU'RE A FUCKING LOSER OF A PERSON AND YOU WANT A 10/10 GIRL?

FUCK OFF OMG, YOU NASTY LITTLE CREEP JUST STICK TO YOUR OWN 5/10 TYPE.

Don't do this, OP.
>have friend
>is 5'8 manlet powerlifter
>plays guitar, but only because it's an extension of his ego
>gets into PUA
>talks about The Game and conferences constantly
>slowly turns into an uncomprimising asshole
>begins negging his friends because "he's just kidding bro"

One time at the bar, after getting negged, pointed out that my gf was taller than he was and that it was sad. He was embarrassed af and that's the last time he tried to "be cute."

Just talk to women, stand up straight and make eye contact and joke around. Dif you're not uggo af, doesn't take much to keep convos going with girls. They'll basically do the heavy lifting

Jamundí, cómeme la mondá.

I know guys of varying heights, amount of muscle and facial aesthetics and without fail everyone of them who told me they started reading game and "alpha" shit online just turns into an intolerable prick who's constantly trying to wrestle "dominance" from you by generally doing everything they can to be a little negging in your way cocksucker. It's just fucking pathetic and I feel embarrased for them because it always results in their false "dominance" getting shattered and being put in their place again.

top kek

>Be funny and charming and make all the other women there like you and flirt with you.
i dont know how to be funny and charming

don't know how to joke around either tbqh

how do i learn this?
>tfw haven't made anyone laugh in decades. except maybe laugh at me

bump

>how do i charm her?

Ignore all the bull-shit. If you want to date a woman then learn what SHE likes (stop trying to date ALL women and concentrate on this ONE woman). Most likely she is already in a relationship in which case you need to become a friend (you CAN get out of the friend-zone later).

Salsa is the easiest place to pick up women. Just get good at it but keep taking beginner classes and you'll have effortless success.

jus b urself friendo

how do i become her friend?
one suggestion in this thread is try to talk to everyone in the class and her. but what do i say?

another girl i like is a qt3.14 coworker who has a bf
>rarely see her, rarely talk to her
s-should i message her on our workplace instant messenger, and ask her how she's doing? or try to find some reason to talk to her first?

I'm not very good tbqh

can't recognize a beat
don't understand how to lead well

>salsa
The biggest meme dance.

You can watch The Hobbit trilogy with her.

Even thought others here have advised against it, it sounds like you should read up on The Red Pill sexual strategy, so that you at least get a fundamental understanding of female psychology and also stop being such a pussy confidence-lacking beta.

I'll at least give you a hint: it's a numbers game. Strike up some convo with her and try to establish some rapport. If you bomb ,then stop thinking about her and move on.

>how do i become her friend?

Well, very small chance you will become her BEST friend, but after a few dancing classes together you can ask her and few others if they want to go out for a drink or some food after class.

i dont talk to anyone in the class though

i leave right after the lesson, and there isn't much time to talk during the lessons

i dont think i can organize a group outing to get food tbqh

You're making whiny excuses against every piece of advice given to you. Are you trolling or something?

If basic human interaction is this huge an ordeal for you then read some books or sites on how to socialize and stuff. Sounds like you need to worry more about than then that big bitch you're in love with.

>i dont talk to anyone in the class though

Escort service will get you laid.

Oh poor little beta faggot got a hobby and the rest of his lifes garbage too. That's cute. If your a 30 something complete loser why don't you forget dating for a while and focus on yourself and getting friends. Girls that see an unkempt late 20s early 30s guy who looks socially awkward isnt gonna get any girls attention and you want a 10/10 but im pretty sure your a 6 or 7 at best. Don't drag worthwhile girls under by dating them, your not worth it. Become worthy of a 10 and you will get one. Simple. Get more hobbies read a damn book and dress/look better. Find friends first you inept lonely bastard then see if they know anyone thats single. Maybe you have no friends cause your garbage. Start to crawl before you try and walk op.

>Read the Mystery Method by Mystery.
pls do this and take video and pictures, the mental image of a autistic manlet in a fluffy tophat trying to pick up woman at a salsa class could be the comedy of this century

OP, step 1 is to delete all these pictures of girls off your computer and phone. Without fail, everytime someone is asking why are they a 35 year old virgin they will be posting a pic of a girl in every post. That's why. Read up on NoPorn and potentially NoFap.

>autistic manlet in a fluffy tophat trying to pick up woman at a salsa class

Sounds like an episode of Seinfeld

why does someone who is a kissless virgin at 32 feel entitled to pussy? just realize genetically and in any other way imaginable you're a huge fucking failure. seriously

>Sounds like an episode of Seinfeld

Just get a prostitute you braindead fuck

Don't dance to meet girls. Dance to dance. Laugh at yourself. Admit you have no idea what you're doing. Ask for help. Take their advice. Compliment people enthusiastically and frequently.

If you're not getting laid, take pleasure elsewhere. Friendships are born from a genuine appreciation for the people around you.

Dancing is fun! Just try to enjoy the learning process!

This

>op asks advice on girls
>just dance its fun dont worry about girls
Are you a woman? The only reason op is taking classes is to meet girls

>I'm not Mexican
no but you're not white that's for sure.

i do have no social skills

I'm trying to get more hobbies
i already dress and look the best i can imho
i do read books

>Find friends
that's what I'm trying to do, mention it in the second to last line of the OP

>Dance to dance
You do not move to the music, the music moves to you
youtube.com/watch?v=FwsntHcWiy4

OP, use shoes like Downey JR.

I dont know about you guys but hobbies and friends havent helped me to get girls at all, the only thing that has worked for me is asking girls out as soon as I can and act careless /cocky

No, I'm a man.
But I also understand people. And I can confidently tell you that disingenuous social interactions made by an inexperienced communicator like OP will be absolutely transparent, and OP will subsequently experience more of the failure and rejection to which he has become accustomed.

If you want to make friends, meet girls, and improve your station in life, begin with appreciation. Appreciate your classmates. Appreciate where you are in your learning curve. Admit your own faults freely, and proceed from there.

It's much easier (and more pleasant) to do than trying to shoehorn in the pseudoscience of socializing as dictated by redpill doctrine.

OK at this point everyone knows you're a girl LARPing as a guy, but thanks for trying to help anyway.

Op will just get gayzoned with your advice

The one thing that 'game' really has going for it is that most schools of pick up artistry emphasise talking to hundreds and hundreds of women.
Immersion therapy is where it is at. Don't know how to talk to women? Go and talk to a thousand of them. You don't learn to box by reading a book. You don't pick up 400kg off the floor just by watching videos of pros. Yet guys everywhere expect to be able to slay babes by doing nothing more than reading volumes and volumes of theoretical information.
If you want women, go and try to get women and keep doing it, keep learning from your mistakes until you naturally learn what works and what doesn't.
Getting over the fear of rejection is basically 90% of being good with women, the other 10% you pick up as you go.

It's really actually very easy but that initial step is too much for the majority of men to ever really take.

Sure, why not.

Women have already made their feelings on OP abundantly clear. At this point, isolating himself from women in any nonsexual context will only continue to hurt his ability to interact effectively with them. You won't learn to talk to girls by reading PUA bullshit online. You learn by talking to them in person.

This guy gets it.

ITT we meme OP into perpetual virginity and friendzone

>ITT we meme OP into perpetual virginity and friendzone

Easy!
Be sure to tell her that you love playing WOW are are a 53 Level Warrior.

man if you are 30 + and virgin you should def give up on pursuing women, unless you want to be beta provider forever, because every woman that you'll try to have intimate relationship with will instantly know you are virgin/inexperienced and will ghost you or even probably mock you to her friends after taking probably 30+ dicks in her lifetime. Some people are not meant to be laid, and that's ok, but give your life another purpose do something that you enjoy

>t. 21 y/o virgin

>entitled
I'm asking what i need to do to get it, and to get friends

i dont compliment anyone usually

should i compliment both guys and girls, or just girls

dude you are most likely ugly get some basic stuff like double jaw surgery and genioplasty whatever you need

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>>t. 21 y/o virgin
Holy shit, are you me?

>I'm not Mexican
start pretending you are

no

her face looks like she has invisible cum on her.

dude you fell 4 her. Its done. Why would she chose you when even you wouldnt chose you.

You can make it but its a numbers game and not a feelings game. Best bet is to be relaxed and treat her like any other girl, explore if she can contribute to your life in a way. but you are pussnotized and only see her for her looks. Women like that can be anything from toxic to great. Pussy aint worth it for toxic, so get to know her first. Treat seduction as vetting process of which women will get to be with you. You absolutely have to start seeing value and building and demonstrating value because no one wants a dude without value, as a bf or friend. We are all value driven, we all want whats best for us. It doesnt need to actually be, but illusion of it is important.

So vet her. Have an attitude of having value and will she add to it?

After all remember once you fuck a woman pussy is the great equalizer - which means - I was obsessed with 10s before I lost my v with a 6-7/10 and now honestly I still love perfect girls but I can get off with most of them and after u get off its smily-land and keep focusing on other things.

Right now best you can do is - approach like a madman and dont listen to anyone trying to make you lazy like them. No one became successful without approaching like crazy. it may take 100 approaches, it may take 10000, but you gotta be willing to put in the work plain and simple. And you gotta treat women like FUN, not like HOLY GRAIL that will give your life meaning. Cuz honestly they are pretty fucking dumb and inferior and without pussy no one would give them time of the day.

Your best bet is to approach like crazy and ask yourself : What did I learn? What could I do better? Be relaxed because mostly you will fail but if you start now with passion you could be better than 99% of fit in few years. I know you wont do it because you dont want it bad enough but I wish you did. It would blow your mind.

where are the best places to try and get women? bars?

how do i obtain value?
I'm not rich, or good looking, and don't have any friends, not really skilled in anything, etc.

you get women everywhere. buying bread, buying tuna, shopping clothes, walking to parking lot. Just get out for a stroll and you count how many women you see that you like. Do this for a week. Dont need to approach just count them. Then after a week see how many wasted opportunities you have! Even getting rejected gives you experience. Builds your balls. And not trying = failing in true sense. It only registers less because it hurts less than trying. Thats why 99% of ppl go trough life as losers.

You obtain value first as seeing yourself as bigger than circumstance, bigger than your height so to speak hahaha, you got to start thinking differently. Every change in life start in change in thinking, in habit of thinking. There are plenty short ppl who made it. You could be on of them.
Start to see yourself as person of value. Start to treat yourself better - dont think thoughts that make you feel worthless or weak.
What can I think about myself that makes me feel great? Then make a list.

Do affirmations. Record an mp3 with affirmations in this format: "You are awesome. You are popular. You are master of your Life... etc these are just top of my head, you can make your own." Listen to them while you surf the web, read something. You dont need to register them. Just keep them playing into your subconscious mind.

You will feel the effects soon, and in 30 days your life will look totally different. Most of all YOU will be different.

Books to read: What women want, by W. Anton. Power of subconscious mind by J. Murphy. Tao of badass by some dude. and Think and grow rich.

Read these books and most of all go out and practice, and you will be better off than ever before.

4 affirmations, it doesnt matter if you think its silly, or if it will work or not, just make the record with a happy and enthusiastic voice like you are talking to your son or smth.

Then listen to it all the time you can.

You can think whatever you want of it, it WILL work immediately and it will work better with time, since it will become a part of you.

You will read more info in books I mentioned. But basically someone is already programming your mind, is it you? And is it productive?

Your life happiness points towards no.

why do you browse Veeky Forums ?
for the memes
talk about what you think is funny pepe is mainstream anyway XD SHADILAY

this pretty well sums up the fundamental flaw with all of this stupid PUA nonsense. all it will do is make you see women as bland and uninteresting objects to be manipulated. unfortunately this is seen as cool and desirable in guys now, despite cool and interesting guys almost never thinking this way, but you will suffer for it and will never be able to emotionally or romantically click with a woman until you drop that mindset.

at the risk of sounding like a retarded liberal, why the fuck do white people have to apply rules and systems, complete with buzzwords and abbreviations, to absolutely everything in life?

this is actually true. girls love guys who other girls want.

you absolutely can break that first impression, but you have bigger problems. sure you can go on the internet and take advice such as attending dance lessons, wearing this or that, going here and there or driving this, but your character underneath is obviously exactly the same and women can smell that shit a mile away. right now you're just blindly following a formula you found online - this is not the way to interact with other humans. sorry but honestly you sound like a boring, ignorable fuck. if you look emotionally downtrodden, desperate and unconfident (likely you emanate all 3), they will know within 5 seconds of seeing you go about your life. fortunately for guys like you who are willing to change, you can absolutely alter your mind set out of this. but it MUST happen within, otherwise you'll have no spark, no character, no magnetism, no enthusiasm, no fire, and this makes guys sexy.