/fraud/

I am on the early weeks of Tren.
Stay away from porn, let your boners rage on, do not give in, unless you get to have some actual sex.

goodnight

what a wholesome night we're having
>tfw you share your feelings more easily with random faggots on a basket-weaving forum than actual friends.

anybody else need copious amounts of alcohol to talk about rough shit with their friends?

>anybody else need copious amounts of alcohol to talk about rough shit with their friends?
I just bottle that shit right up in the darkest places of my mind and have a breakdown in my shower from time to time.

I guess being semi-anonymous also helps.

Daily reminder that if you obsess over your workout; you're a dumb autistic faggot. Push/pull, eat protein, take steroids, and have your gf/wife suck your dick before showering.

5-8 reps, 7 total different exercises.

>I just bottle that shit right up in the darkest places of my mind and have a breakdown in my shower from time to time.

oh fuck right in the feels.

I had one breakdown before in front of my ex, and another with a girl that i was really good friends with.

i feel shameful about both occurences.

No u

And no planned rest days. If you have time to go to the gym, you push if you didn't pull the last time, and vice versa. If you're some faggot that goes to the gym everyday... well, no wonder you're obsessing.

This is not always true, expecially on the internet. Still glad you guys are cool and shit.

>tfw you don't have any irl friends.
G-gottem ;-;

I didn't ask for this feel Nano

Also I'll try to cut down on doodle shitposts and stay more on thread topic, don't wanna get deleted for constantly being off topic.

So I can get away with no hcg?

Where's my tren!!

juicing is for faggots

>before showering
wut

Honestly its fine, we're only human.
Honestly how are you?
You say you take long drives, I take long walks with the dog when I'm stuck with shit.

I go everyday, but I care about results and routine in my life.
Middle girl best girl.

Doodles are perfectly acceptable as long as they're /fraud/ related.

No juice is for old people and hipsters.

can you PLEASE explain why you retards are making up your own retarded pcts? what the fuck is this 8 weeks shit

Checking my tutanota now.

I ended up vomiting blood for 3 weeks, missing work, and then the girlfriend let me know she's pregnant so yeah, operations have halted. If you're willing to put the money up front then you'll have it in 3-4 weeks at the same price it costs me to make, as an apology. I'll email you

You CAN get away with no PCT at all, but that doesn't mean you should.

Do what you can afford and what your comfortable with. Nobody has the right answer for you my man, just do some more research and pick a protocol.

You aren't going to die or break your dick off, you'll be fine.

I would look up Clomid sides, look up Clomid prices, look up HCG prices and sides, look up RECENT recommended HCG doses, and then pick what you think will be best.

We aren't doctors or professionals, everything is anecdotal evidence here.

im doing pretty bad short term right now but long-term things are looking okay.

If i have someone to talk to im alright, the moment i don't i spiral downwards. when i then talk to someone i automatically pretend everything is alright.

job interview tomorrow @ 10am.
already talking to another girl in vierlingsbeek
several matches on tinder

surprisingly enough the line "im single and ready to fucking kill myself" in my bio got me a good amount of matches.

i just need to hang out with friends more.

I'm on day 8 of tren e and I'm starting to get a fire in my loins like never before, it's too intense to be placebo. I have a feeling I'll be fucking tinder fat chicks within the week

I think he got that from me from last thread. Lots of weeks of PCT after a 2 year cruise seems fine for me, I don't think it is for him.

It sounds like you've got a good amount of good things going on.
Talking always helps, even about petty shit, but you need someone that listens which can be a pain.

>im single and ready to fucking kill myself
Expected Im single and ready to flamingle.

Indulge.

when is it socially acceptable to talk about rough shit with your friends?

like how long do I need to know them? i always feel like im alienating when i do.

im really good socially but this has been really hard for me since my best friend jumped in front of a train in 2011.

Can a complete beginner start cheating right away?

nothing's stopping you

it'll be incredibly underwhelming and you might hurt yourself, but nothing's stopping you

w-what happens if I fap a lot on it?

Depends on the mood I suppose, most of my serious talk is just being wasted and sitting on the sidewalk somewhere.
It just happens somehow. But I ussually keep track of how people are doing and am the one that asks how people are.
Sorry to hear about your friend, suicide is a harsh thing.

You'll fap more and more.

I wouldn't reccomend it. At least lift for around 6 months.

I had a really good friend kill himself around the same time, iktf. It was especially tough because he was the only one I really ever opened up to. It's always socially acceptable if you're relatively close friends imo, most people have shit they want to get off their chest and would be glad for the opportunity.

Try working out for at least 6 months natty, most of your beginner gains are just your CNS adjusting anyway. You don't even really need to worry about your diet too much for your first year lifting.

Can you? Yes. Should you? No.

If your body isn't already accustomed to lifting weights, you could do some bad shit like tear a ligament, or maybe even worse. obviously something like that is a risk even for someone who has been lifting for a long time, but if you're just starting then you increase the chances of fucking yourself up long term.

Or you end up having a tren induced mental breakdown, but let's not get into that.

Did crusader KYS himself or get banned for being a dyel?

Banned for a mental breakdown.
He'll be back in 1 day.

hi mossad

Banned for three days for being weird.
Can't say I was more or less horny than I usually am when I was on 500mg a week, so I can't say anything really.

>But I ussually keep track of how people are doing and am the one that asks how people are

mhm this sounds like a good suggestion.

>most people have shit they want to get off their chest and would be glad for the opportunity.

haven't had anyone talk to me about their issues as far as i can remember.

mfw I developed a fetish for huge ass

In my experience they will after you open up to them, it's a tit for tat thing. Nobody wants to expose their emotions and get made fun of or shot down.

Iktf, just a side effect of high T

This is a very good point. Like you're having a hard time opening up so do others, you have to make the first step and bond really well with people.

>feel like vomiting from orals
uhhh I guess I just take them with meals then yeah ok

>welcome back

Thanks. I've lurked on and off and had been away from Veeky Forums for about two years. When I firmly decided to use exogenous testosterone I was stgoked to join this illustrious circle jerk.

I know Moosey has gone to sleep but I still wanted to reply.

why does everyone use tren a? I like to keep my pins to once a week to prevent scar tissue so I use test d but what's the point of pinning every other day

on 800mg right now and my dyel manlet flatmate has a fwb over
it's so hard to not boot his door in and confiscate her

I remember one of the guys I became friends with from the bars had an old childhood friend commit suicide. It's as simple and best to just say: "If you need or want an ear on -insert issue- I'm here for you"

This way they aren't forced to talk, you'll bond if they want to, and either way they'll know you're a caring guy who values their feelings.

I just pinned delt for the first time and it began twitching rapidly when I got to about half an inch in so I immediately withdrew. Didn't really bleed. This happened one other time years ago from a doctor. How can i avoid this? I would like to add delts to my rotation

Only a little related, but anyone has experience with hair transplants?

>I don't drink either papi

Word, I just hit up this super cute Native American chick I've been talking to so hopefully she's down to hang out.

Could be liver stress dude

I haven't done orals in a good while and started these a few days ago so I doubt that, but it could be

Dbol gives me great acid reflex gains

rode another 25km today.

this habit is getting expensive. my bike only has a tiny 5.5 liter gas tank.

/give me motivation to study for the 4th and final midterm i have tomorrow.

>vibration systems and control
>thermodynamics
> Calculus Several variables
>last midterm is a 9am GE american government class.

I just want to workout without being stressed about how long i'm there.

I'm the accutanefag though

I'm not asking you guys to dose my ai, but i have never taken caber and wanted to know what signs you guys watch for as well as experience with it. My first time doing tren and dbol so i got some on hand.
I already have my basic ai down pat, usually go light with 10mg aromasin 2x a wk is my go to when i cycle.

What are the chances I gain a giant jaw when I blast test and chew that extra tough meme gum?

honestly, anybody else here /fraud/ at first bc they were insecure or unhappy?

>be sociopath and a manlet
> generally pretty ugly growing up
>get turned down a lot most of my life
>go to university
>become /fraud/, get braces, get accutane
>make great gains,confidence soars
> i look like an entirely different person from 2 years ago
>flaunt on Social media at first so girls who turned me down can see how much better i look now
>life improves greatly. make a ton of friends, go out and have fun every weekend
>get a gf who is actually gorgeous and models for a large LA company.
>use her at first as a weapon to get back at the other girls showing her off on social media so they can see the type of girl i can get now and the crowd i hangout with.
>realize i'm human trash
>try to learn to let go
> the girls from my past begin messaging me, reaching out, always watching my story and like my pictures, commenting when they can
>still want their approval or to have the chance to turn them down
>i don't have a single thing to be unhappy about yet i crave the attention of these few girls and can't fathom being happy until I reject them or fuck them and leave

My doc didn't prescribe me test because I'm 21. How do I kill myself?

>honestly, anybody else here /fraud/ at first bc they were insecure or unhappy?
Where do you think you are?

yep

go fraud

this is heresy at its highest.

so then user, my question to you
why /fraud/?
do you or anybody else have an end goal? and once you reach it will it make you happy? the point to my post was, I'm just an unhappy unsatisfied person deep down. when i got to where i wanted nothing has changed about me. maybe that's just me but a warning to you guys. sometimes regardless of how many girls, how much gains, how strong you get, there is never an end.

Go to an anti-aging clinic or a endocrinologist.

I missed a Chem-lab today because I overslept and now I have to give a good enough written excuse that i won't get a zero, any suggestions?

well i'm on trt but planning a blast when i finally have some more disposable income.

probably until i find my body at an acceptable level and then just ride the TRT sauce train till i die.

honestly this just sounds like you fantasizing about what your life on roids would be like.

i had a healthier self-perception prior to roids but I also am glad that I tried them because I learned a lot about what they truly can do (and can't do).

on a side note, I just started my first shot of tren enanthate and I am getting kinda worried by some of the potential side effects being exacerbated by the longer ester. I've tried acetate before and it wasn't that bad but there were definitely some nights where I was getting annoyed by the trensomnia and sweating. i was gonna run 400mg tren-e/week but I am thinking of just doing 200mg once a week now and supplementing it occasionally with tren ace on my second pin days (maybe 50mg or so). thoughts?

you sound like me. you get *some* motivation out of the effort required to obtain material possessions or achievements but the reward itself is quite underwhelming and does nothing to satiate the void inside you. it's probably because you lack meaningful relationships in your personal life and that is truly the problem that needs fixing.

Testosterone and tren had literally zero impact on my libido. My penis got a little bit thicker overall and the head got more sensitive but it's not consuming my life like you read with some people. I suspect it's just sensationalized nonsense like most roid related things are.

>going sober
>filtered the alcohol out of my adrol solution
>adrol still smells like straight alcohol
Fuck guess my bulk is over

Self medicate
100mg test got me to 800ng/dl

Shitposting

well i'm just a stranger on the internet. how much can you believe. just thought i'd share my experience. I realized i am the person who needed to fixing and could've been much happier without going down this path. but im here and love it and im not going back anytime soon.

i agree with the "void inside" point. i guess goodluck to you trying to figure that out as well.

don't touch the caber until you start lactating

Nano where are you, mate? I'm the clen noob from the other day who you were helping out. Finally picked it up today.

200MCG per 1mil.

Pic related is the stuff, my current body and the cycle I want to run. Since i'm a dumb fuck who cannot into basic mathematics may you please help me convert the MCG dosages into ML? Thank you very much.

Also I just had a little drop its green and tastes like apple. From what I read this stuff has no taste but this one tastes like green apple? I doubt I got scammed since I know the guy personally and he sells it a lot. Anyway if you may please help with the the conversion dosages I'd be very greatful, thanks brah

Also I did my own calculations

ay 1 - 0.2 ml = 20mcg
day 2 - 0.4 ml = 40 mcg
day 3 - 0.6 ml = 60 mcg
day 4 - 0.8 ml = 80mcg
day 5/10 - 1.0 ml = 100mcg
day 11 - 0.8 ml = 80mcg
day 12 - 0.6 ml = 60mcg
day 13 - 0.4 ml = 40 mcg
day 14 - 0.2 ml = 20mcg
2 weeks off
day 1 - 0.4 ml = 40mcg
day 2 - 0.6 ml = 60 mcg
day 3 - 0.8 ml = 80 mcg
day 4 - 1.0 ml = 100mcg
day 5/10 - 1.2 ml = 120mcg
day 11 - 1.0 ml = 100mcg
day 12 - 0.8 ml = 80mcg
day 13 - 0.6 ml = 60 mcg
day 14 - 0.4 ml = 40mcg

Could you lads please confirm that I converted it right?

First time cycling anything, been natty for 5-6 years of lifting

jesus man this is basic math.

200mcg per 1 ml
20mcg per 0.1ml
2mcg per 0.01ml

so 40mcg would be 0.2ml
80mcg would be 0.4ml

this is elementary school math.

So

20MCG = 0.1ml
40mcg =0.2ml
60mcg =0.3ml
80mcg =0.4ml
100mcg =0.5ml

Sorry brah just confirming don't want to OD

yes.

you said in your post its 200mcg per 1 ml

200/2 = 100mcg
1/2 = 0,5ml

its really that simple.

Great thanks a lot my friend

I'm planning 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off, 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off

Should I let my body recover for a while after the 2nd cycle before resuming if necessary?

Also any tips on how to get rid of that air bubble? If i leave it in there fucks up the dosage hard

I have absolutely no experience with clen, you're better off hoping someone else answers that.

people aren't exactly fond of clen at all since DNP is much more effective and clen has some bad reputation.

Also its 3 am where nano lives so I think you may have to wait till tomorrow.

>tfw left fraud thread open while bro was talking to me
>left my roid bag out in the open for over a day

it's like i'm trying to be found out

All good brah, thanks for the help. Hard to imagine such a small drop can do so much

It was an endocrinologist

I was just hoping for legal stuff

thats a penis right

Every girl is on infinite estrogen but youll never get test
Unfortunate but true

no it's a thumb can't u read?

Did you ask for it? or did they assume roids instantly?
HA a mate i used to know is now posting on about his transition and how easy it was for him to get hormones to now be a chick, (he used to lift heaps and has pretty fucking big biceps rofl)
Even Trannies have an easier time with endo's

Holy shit, dbol does that? I was wondering why the fuck I felt like I was gonna spit acid while I was taking it for that last week, but I thought it was because of shitty work food or something.

Goes to show how much of a tard I am, I guess.

>tfw my maintenace cals are about 3800 and I tried to cut at 1400
Wew that shit is rough. I'm never going below a 1000 cal deficit again.

I get acid reflux pretty bad on tren but fortunately its the only side effect that I notice

That's not acid reflux or shit food, you’re starting to get cholestasis. It’s where your liver can’t release bile due to getting blocked up from processing the oral steroid. One of the symptoms is getting a feeling like acid reflux. You need to take TUDCA or drop the oral if you’re getting that.

>get empty bottles
>put jolly rancher drink mix into them
>sell them as clen

So long boys, I've found the key to infinite money.

>will my jawbone increase in size when I workout my jaw muscles
yes, just like your rib explodes in size when you work out your chest

Oh man that's fucked. Fortunately it only started really happening during my last two or so days of using it. I dropped it about a week ago and feel fine now, I think. Thanks for looking out, though.

You realize there are muscles around the jaw just like there are muscles around your ribs, right? They're called the masseter muscle and abdominal muscles, respectively.

God damn I'm fucking good. My meals weren't planned at all. In fact, lunch was fucking Chick Fil A... I'm just that amazing.

yes but you don't use them for chewing, least not primarily

>tfw you go through your old /fit folder