Why Korea was never completly sinicized? They managed to defeat China from time to time...

Why Korea was never completly sinicized? They managed to defeat China from time to time, and even when they were invaded and vassalized, they managed to keep their culture.

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Why would it be completely sinicized?

>Korean culture

This. It's not part of the middle kingdom. China never completely sinicizes vassal states.

How do you even know their current culture has anything to do with the culture of the original, ancient people that lived there?

If anything, their culture is steadily and quickly turning into american culture.

How did other provinces became part of it?

Korea, I believe, never tried to rebel or challenge China, so Chinese rulers never bothered to reduce Korean autonomy.

>Why Korea was never completly sinicized?
Because it was never really apart of China
>they were invaded and vassalized, they managed to keep their culture.
They were invaded by the Mongols, and the Manchu, but still never really made apart of their Chinese empires. I don't think the peninsula was invaded by an ethnic Chinese empire since the Tang, and that's when they were allied to Silla.
They willingly entered into tributary relationships with every Chinese dynasty since then, and were forced to join the non-ethnic Chinese dynasties.

But they were about as Sinizied as you can get without adopting Chinese language. Until the Japanese occupation all official documents were in Chinese. It just would have been difficult to get the average slave or peasant to learn Chinese, and why bother. But during the Qing dynasty some Korean scholars argued that they were more Chinese than than China now.The Joseon dynasty was the only officially Confucian state.

tldr: They were totally sinicized but because they were never incorporated into China, they still had an ethnic identity, especially among the commoners.

There wasn't any reason to, Korea didn't offer them anything, it wasn't seen as traditionally China, and they were usually allied or in a tributary relationship.

Because China as centralised state and more or less unified culture appeared in 1950 then South Korea was protected by USA.

Korea was very wealthy, actually. It was, however, providing steady stream of tribute and wealth for Chinese state, while staying loyal and peaceful. Trying to integrate it would not be worth the risk and strain on stability and politics of the empire, which always had a handful of concerns and problems to create another one from thin air.

>Korea was very wealthy, actually. It was, however, providing steady stream of tribute and wealth for Chinese state
Source for this?

Not entirely true though, much of what is modern China and considers themselves Chinese was not at one point China.

Korea is pretty fucking close to Beijing and could definitely have become CHINK'D but they never did.

Somehow, China never tried to conquer Korea since Han dynasty.

Since then, Korean kingdoms were usually subordinate to China, so they didn't bother.

Historically speaking, Korea is a really fucking hard country to occupy, it's mountainous as fuck.
Korea was basically sinicized though, hell something like 80% of their language is basically a dialect of Middle Chinese, here's an experiment, if you know Mandarin or Cantonese try pronouncing Hanja in those languages and comparing Korean pronounciations, good for a couple laughs.
Some nationalists even claim that Korea was the true successor to 天下 during the Qing, just because they have a distinct national identity (which again, is largely defined by being a tributary to whatever dynasty was in power at the time) doesn't necessarily mean they weren't sinicized.

You realize China was just a bunch of vassal states, right?
Middle Kingdom is whatever is politically expedient, do you consider Tibet or Xinjiang to be part of the middle kingdom? Do you consider them to be vassal states? Do you consider them to be sinicized?

>Sino-Korean vocabulary or Hanja-eo (Hangul: 한자어; Hanja: 漢字語) refers to Korean words of Chinese origin. Sino-Korean vocabulary includes words borrowed directly from Chinese, new Korean words created from Chinese characters, and words borrowed from Sino-Japanese vocabulary. About 60 percent of Korean words are of Chinese origin.[1]

>You realize China was just a bunch of vassal states, right?
No, China is not Holy Roman Empire.

Korea as a unified singular nation(since unified Silla) is not a Chinese province. Province is different than vassal state.

because pic related

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Because Korea, along with - but strangely moreso than - every other dynastic tributary statr, received more benefits from being a tributary state than becoming another province of the Middle Kingdom. Alongside trade benefits, the usual yearly tribute - which in some cases amounted to little more than a get well card whenever the Emperor had a cough - saw fuckhueg returns on behalf of China. Regardless of the dynasty, court regulations dictated tributary states receiving gifts *at least* twice the value of whatever they offered in tribute.

Korea in particular had much to offer and thus much, much more to receive. A border generally shared with the Jurchens or whatever steppenigger tribe of the day, a respectable culture of artisanry ranging from architecture to pottery, a nice middle-man relationship to ship Chinese goods to Japan and vice-versa, a complete disinterest in doing anything other than be simple ricejews.

Not to mention that Korea was already as Sinicized as you could get without considering yourself a Han Chinese.

>Korea was already as Sinicized as you could get without considering yourself a Han Chinese.
What about Nam

>Korea
>Not completely sinicized.
We're talking of a country whose "National Dress" for males are accurate copies of the Ming Dynasty's official's uniform, and for females, accurate copies of Tang-period dress.

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>What about Nam
Vietnam at the very least tried to set up a parallel southern court,though diplomatic protocol made this distinction only relevant when dealing with non-Chinese entities or internal politics.

Korean and Vietnamese elites were thoroughly Sinicized and considers themselves to be offshoots of Zhou civilization steeped in Confucianism.

Korea challenged the Chinese during the Goguryeo Sui/Tang War, Silla Tang War, Balhae/Bohai Tang War (somewhat Korean) Goryeo Yuan War (to some extent) Second Yuan War and Early “Ming” Invasion.

These are only the Wars they won. (Cept for the second Tang Campaign)