Bulk and Cut at the same time?

Hey Veeky Forums, can anyone recommend a program where I will lose fat and gain muscle at the same time? I'm borderline overweight and I'd like to slim down as I lift. Is that even possible?

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not possible unless you're on a shitton of gear. you need to cut first, being overweight is degenerate. Build muscle after

Yes it’s possible but once you get cut you will still be skinny but will be stronger than you are now id recommend bike riding but winter is coming

there are literally scientific studies that clearly show you can build muscle mass and lose fat at the same time while lifting at maintenance
don't expect the permabulking dyel retardos on this shithole of a site to understand that though

yeah, but its slow. or you need gear.
it's just more efficient to cut then bulk.

of course you'll build mass slower at maintenance, but that's the price you pay for losing fat at the same time
if you're already lean bulk
most people should recomp
>more efficient
provide evidence

I'm probably close to 25% body fat right now. How long would it take to get down to 15%? Any programs you recommend?

Don't listen to these faggots. It worked for me.

I was slightly overweight and completely without muscles. I lifted 4 times a week. Every day I lifted, I ate 500 calories above maintenance. Every day I didn't lift, I ate 500 calories below maintenance. I don't know if that was the most effective way to do it, but it worked. I stayed the exact same weight (lost fat, put on muscle) while going up on all my lifts. I look much better now.

go to bed Jeff