/fraud/

this is pretty much the worst webm I've ever seen

this could just be a jpg and absolutely nothing would be lost

Guys seriously ...talk me out of spending ~22 grand of my grandfather's inheritance money on this.

just get:
platform
power cage with pull up and dip bars
adjustable bench
bar
bumper plates
adjustable db's
and put rest into SP 500

Build your own platform with wood and horse stall rubber
Its ez and much cheaper

Then get rid of the last 8 items except for the elieko and mirrors
Some adjustable dbs are really cheap

Are you a professional athlete? Do you expect any of that to hold its value if you need money in a pinch?

You could use that money on the down payment on an actual gym.

I have nothing to say about this other than excellent penmanship my dude

I'll look into this, thanks brew. I do use kettlebells routinely though and the reverse hyper machine is one of the greatest pieces of equipment on the planet IMO...I can't imagine not having it. It cured a bulging disc and my APT and is single handedly the thing that got me over a 4 plate DL.

I make 83k a year and now own my own house at 26. The inheritance was also for 170k.

Buy shares /buy an actual gym and make money from it.

>One week off cycle.
>Feel the deepest depression of my life.
Honestly considering having a kid as soon as possible so I can just cruise for the rest of my life.

why would he ever do that. I think the reason he wants a home gym is so that he can work out at home not that he is passionate about gyms

Well if you use em get em
But that machine will add alot of cost
Get a pullover machine too

I'm wondering if it's even worth it to keep taking MK677 and peps while I'm cutting. I'm sooooooo fucking hungry even on a EC stack all the time. The cut is going well other than that.

>mk677 while cutting
n-no...

Lmaoo mk677 while cutting? Shit I can't even handle that hunger while on maintenance.

It's only 800. I'm honestly open to the idea to getting a few more select machines, but I'm not sure about the space.

I talked to an equipment rep in town and he said the 24x26 ft. Steel prefab would fit everything with space to spare. I just don't know exactly how much.

Thoughts on this new roid study

youtu.be/E6GRursx2C4

any tips on how to get some hot roid dick inside me?

Only need 9x9 or 10x10 for platform and bench. 15x10 with the rack. Thats alot of machine space.

You write like a girl

link the study, I'm not giving that video a view

Surely there must be some reward for how much harder it is to control my appetite.

Dope. I couldn't justify spending that much on gym equipment though. Get a shoulderok while you're at it. It's fun as fuck and you don't have to look like a autist in front of the whole gym while you use it.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797617709592

did we really need a study to tell people that high test = lower IQ generally?

...

is it really part of the jew conspiracy?

take this thread and every fucking trip faggot in here. on all types of compounds.

bimbo: likes to wax intellectual while he's here yet just months ago could not stop bitching about his ex girlfriend despite continuing to see her over and over, also g4p
crusader: doesn't even lift and avatar fags it up, lives with his mom, total neet faggot
swollen glands: probably dead
estp: literal fucking prostitue, also probably dead
this fucking guy just a few examples of the types of people who gravitate toward this kind of shit. no one here is genuinely smart and all find camaraderie in being and/or feeling mediocre

I don’t think my body is designed to be lean. I really don’t. It’s fighting tooth and nail every step of the way. The test couldn’t overpower it. The tren couldn’t overpower it. I know this sounds cliche but there are some deeper genetic forces at play here that can’t be reasoned with. Time and time again, my body has managed to defy the laws of thermodynamics. I don’t know what else to do at this point.

>takes roids to be way bigger than the average man
>we find camaraderie in feeling mediocre
Also it is all relative. I'm smarter than the average person in the US (just observe the brainlets at Walmart to see how dumb average really is)

get me the full paper and we'll talk

you can't really gloat about being smarter than the average american and compare your self to walmart consumers who are literally the bottom of the fucking barrel.

nevermind I found it, be back in 10

>We hypothesized that T administration would increase participants’ tendency to rely on their intuitive judgments, reduce inhibition of incorrect prepotent response, and therefore impair CRT performance relative to placebo. To rule out various confounding factors, namely T’s potential influences on engagement, motivation, or arithmetic skills, participants took part in an additional math task as a control.
alright okay, so, the hypothesis is, more t = more impulsive, not more t = dumber, let's see where it goes

>Finally, our study further allowed testing two previously reported associations between CRT performance and the 2D:4D digit ratio, a purported proxy of prenatal T exposure (Bosch-Domènech, Brañas-Garza, & Espín, 2014)
lol, that's gonna be good

>Methods
>Two hundred and forty three males (mostly college students, see SOM, Table S1 for demographic details) were randomly administered either T (n = 125) or placebo (n = 118) topical gel under a double blind between-subjects protocol
okay so, gel, not injectable (unlike what omar isuf's video says). let's see what the protocol is

>The timeline of our experimental procedure is illustrated in Fig. 1. Participants first arrived at the lab at 9:00 in the morning. [...] Afterwards, participants proceeded to a designated room for T or placebo gel application.
same day... and gel... alright this is already looking bad

>The experiment consisted of a battery of seven behavioral tasks and none included feedback about the participants’ monetary payoffs (to avoid endogenous changes in T from changes in payoff).
jesus christ

>Four saliva samples were collected throughout the experiment to achieve high-resolution monitoring of hormonal changes during the experiment and control for their influences
>We chose to use saliva samples to avoid potential stress that might be induced by multiple blood draws throughout the experimental session
saliva samples alright okay

>In order to reduce the potential effect of a female experimenter’s presence on T levels and T-related behaviors, male researchers conducted all experimental sessions
(that's just funny)

>Participants were escorted in groups of 2-6 to a semi-private room where a research assistant provided a small plastic cup containing clear gel and stated it was equally likely to contain T or placebo (the cups were filled in advance by the lab manager, who did not interact with participants and did not reveal the contents of the cup to the research assistant, so that the treatment was double-blind between assistant and subject). These cups contained either 10 g of topical T 1% (2 x 50 mg packets Vogelxo® by Upsher-Smith) or volume equivalent of an inert placebo of similar texture and viscosity (80% alcogel, 20% Versagel®).
laff

>pic
and now it's time for this amazing figure (pic related) showing testosterone values. 4pg/mL for the exogenous testosterone group. is this a joke?

>Note that changes in salivary T concentrations in response to topical T administration do not track the magnitude of changes in blood concentrations (Wang, Plymate,Nieschlag, & Paulsen, 1981). Thus, while the between-group comparison of saliva T provides a manipulation check, differences in salivary T do not necessarily reflect individual differences in serum concentrations within the T-treated participants
oh that explains the pic then. wait, what?

What's the best prohormone in 2017

I was making a joke for the most part. This is Veeky Forums though which seems to attract a lot of dysfunctional people.

Also I really don't see how it's fair to lump the inheritance guy into it as well. He made a list about a dream gym and he realizes it's a lot of money. He's posting that picture because he knows it might not be a great idea. Not fair to say he's unintelligent because he's considering using a small share of his inheritance on something that's important to him.

alright fuck this let's just go to the results

>In line with our main hypothesis, the T group achieved significantly lower CRT scores compared to placebo, with 20% fewer correct answers
>Several factors other than cognitive reflection, such as reduced engagement, motivation, or arithmetic skills, might have lowered CRT scores following T treatment. To control for these potential influences, participants performed a separate arithmetic task of adding sequences of five two-digit numbers under time pressure (5 minutes) with the incentive of $1 for each correct answer. While arithmetic scores explained a substantial part of the between-participants variance in CRT scores (β = 0.08, CI = [0.04 0.11], t(240) = 4.69, p < 0.001), they were unaffected by T administration (β = 0.04, CI = [-1.01 1.08], t(241) = 0.07, p = 0.94, Cohen’s d: 0.01, CI = [-0.25 0.26]).
so back to the beginning, no difference in """intelligence""". testosterone makes you more impulsive, possibly. alright cool thanks for the study. this was a complete waste of my time

bonus:
>we did not find an association between CRT scores and the 2D:4D ratio, a purported proxy of prenatal T exposure

>high test = lower IQ

The study showed that test makes you more likely to come to "gut based" conclusions and be more bull-headed about them, that is, instinctive/impulsive reasoning. Anyone who has gone on a blast could tell you as much.

and here are the questions

are YOU more impulsive than a man who was just rubbed with 100mg worth of gel testosterone 4 hours ago?

Simple, grow some balls and stop being fat. Guarenteed your body isn't defying thermodynamics and you're just not keeping a real diet. I didn't need roids to go from fat kid to skinny kid.

Maybe I don't know you though. Go to a doctor and maybe he can tell you why you can't lost weight. I'm willing to bet you're like 99.9% of fat people though and genetics aren't a part of it.

Guys im scared
Its time to inject but I have a paper to write this weekend.

Will estro make me smarter?

...

Of course, my friend

soylent will

Think I can email my professor asking for an extension until my estro vials arrive?
Surely theyll understand wanting to turn in my best work!

My tranny friend was drinking soylent the other day lel

>email my professor asking for an extension until my estro vials arrive?
It would be a terrible idea to spoil him on your mental performance enhancement use

I’m not fat bro, I’m just not PEELED which is what I’ve been trying to accomplish

Post pic

just eat.. eat eat EAT

>Day 5 on PCT.
>I have pushed the nattylets out of the nest.
>The brood mother is rearing me as her only hatchling.

So i started Dbol 25mg/day and 500mg test e/week exactly 2 weeks ago today. Today i could barely get a boner. I'm thinking either my estro is high or my test e is bunk. Been taking 25mg pharma aromasin for the past few days, so it's making worry that the test e is bunk and my test levels are in the shitter from dbol so cant get boner. Wat do?

>two weeks into cycle
>taking 25mg pharma asin

Man I love reading shit like this. Needed a good lol

22 grand can be spent on things much better than this junk

High estrogen shouldn't stop you from getting a boner- just the opposite. Really LOW estrogen can impair your sex drive.

But instead of playing fucking guessing games though go get some blood work done. privatemdlabs.com is solid.

no you retard it's the opposite

Should have mentioned that my nips are sore so that's why im taking 25mg aromasin. I dont think it's crashed. My joints are good and im feeling good in the gym.

Is doing roids worth it? I think I wanna try test only cycle

Yeah this study is retarded. I'm in a biomechanics lab getting a PhD, there's a reason these businesspeople published in a no-rep journal with an impact of 4.9.

To be fair a lot of places just get the real chems from China and then bottle it up. I ran a research chem company out of my apartment in Philly for a long while. I had a facillity on contract receive the raw material from a Chinese lab and then bottle it up after it passed testing. I was quite tickled when a group of German academics actually included my company's brand in a published research paper on the state of performance enhancing drugs- they also tested my products and found them to be pure.

So yeah, just because it's a house in the middle of nowhere doesn't make it not-legit. It could be fine, or not.

For pretty much any product that isn't a prescription drug being sold for some real condition is going to have a sketchy background.

...

retard

low e2 = strong erections, difficult to orgasm, weak orgasms
high e2 = very weak erections

sure buddy

Well the bottle seems to be legit, but the pills inside are different sizes which means they were made poorly in a pill compactor. Also the expiration date is slapped on the bottom with a sticker instead of printed directly on the bottle.The expiration doesn't even have a "lot" number either it has to be fake. Only way to find out personally is by taking it I suppose. We'll see the results.

Found one of the PT girls from my gym on tinder. Think I should superlike her or just ask her next time I see her if she wants to go out?

I personally DGAF if she turns me down but I figured if I did it over tinder it might be less awkward for her.

she's a cutie

if you don't care about the awkwardness of her possibly rejecting you, superlike her yeah

Nah I really don't either way but I didn't want her to act all weird seeing me basically everyday even though we've never talked.

there's a fine line between a creepy and jokeful use of superlikes

dont be a faggot tell her you thought she was cute and ask her out on a date

Anyone? Im a newfag, migrated from Veeky Forums

hi tyler

Oh man am I glad I'm stopping the Tren. Got into a fight with my girlfriend yesterday over some small shit and it escalated way out of control.
This is not who I am damnit.

Fuck it, I superliked her. My slooty sister said that's what she'd prefer, asking her out at work would be kinda weird she said.

I never noticed any aggression even on 2.something grams of tren e. Got stupid size though.

women are disgusting creatures anyway

>43348071
>7 days since my lowest weight in
>day after lowest weight numbers on scale jumped up and you've been stalling like this for a week
>it SEEMS like lower abs mini gut is getting flatter
am i somehow recomping on those 250mg of test or am i delusional?

I just let my emotions get the best of me lately, stupid amount of stress.

Ah yeah that sucks but as long as you recognize and own up to it it's good. Did you apologize?

You write like a fucking faggot. Maybe spend the money on a lifetime supply of extra heavy flow tampons instead.

Aplogized for the part where I lost my temper and for some of the things I said.

The issue was that her family is a bunch of manupulative selfish shits and that point won't change, they use and abuse her and despite that she still does everything for them.

Damn that blows. Have you tried sitting down and talking about it otherwise to see if she realizes what they're doing?

If you were hypogonadal before it might change the body fat composition. Also it might just be extra muscle fullness giving the illusion. As well as just your hydration status.

You can get a kid while being on steroids. Just use some HCG (500IU 2 or 3 times per week) for a couple of months. You could also just have some company freeze your sperm, doesn't even cost that much.

Sure the study is not that well designed or written. However not all your points make sense either and you sound terribly cocky. The study's point was never to prove test makes you dumb, that's what YouTube faggot who are too dumb to interpret it made of it.

Oh she knows, she just falls back on the "but its family" excuse. We'll get there eventually.

As for a more steroid related topic, I want to winter bulk HARD but want to stay away from Tren.
Should I just go with a test/deca/eq stack? Will run up untio health becomes an issue so 20+ weeks is on the schedule.

Eh, I just want to have a kid and roll 400mg a week for the rest of my life.

>(4)45lb plates

DYEL?

eleiko iwf olympic weightlifting competition set like 2 lines above

i've seen this exact post before, with that same picture.

what is going on here.

Brah, I make like 83k a year and have 170k to play with brah.

d00d please don't spend that much on weights. I don't have all that nonsense on your list but I have a cage, two barebells, one twizly banger bar, assortment of dumbells, bands, a bench and 700lbs of weight. All from Craigslist for a total of like $600-$800?
Weight is weight. Who gives a fuck if it says rougue on it or whatever the fuck.

ive accidentally mixed up a test-e and mast-e vial. any way to find out which is which?

Send one to jano.

its a glitch
kek