Post hideous weapons.
Just what the fuck is that? It looks like it's deformed, why use this fucking travesty instead of a scimitar?
Post hideous weapons
Gabriel Moore
Evan Sanchez
Presumably the flared out part of the blade has a back edge, thus you get a broadened tip area because you can't have a spine there.
It's also very probable that the tip area isn't only wider, but also flatter. Extreme cutting swords tend to be shaped like this. For example, many medieval falchions are so wafer-thin that corrosion has eaten a hole through the middle of the blade.
Some falchions also incorporated the flared tip with a back edge design too, by the way.
Gabriel Bennett
Making the tip of the sword wider gives it more mass, heightening its center of gravity and making it a better cutter without compromising the thickness of the blade.
Michael Cook
It’s employing a false edge, which is good to utilise in a bind and strike with while the opponents sword is struck away.
Single handed weapons are generally good for archers and Cavarlymen which the Otttomans made great use of.
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Michael Davis
>hideous
>turkish kilij
I hate the roaches as much as anyone but the tulwar, shamshir, and kilij are aesthethic as fuck
Matthew Thompson
>talwar
>turkish
remember to buy a rope
Nolan Reed
Because it is one of the finest cutting swords ever made.
>scimitar
can you be a little less generic?
Benjamin Long
All middle eastern and south asian weapons are just ugly. They just scream "barbarian".
Dominic Turner
Why do you hate the Yatagan bro?
Michael Cruz
according to fucking who?
John Scott
Hard to beat the Turks for aesthetic weapons
Jonathan Davis
Lincoln Cooper
Dominic Taylor
Angel Garcia
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weight towards the point, thin and broad blade geometry optimized for cutting and a good curvature to give it that extra slice.
Brandon Cook
Owen Evans
>pssst, kid, want to see some bling?
>youtube.com
Thomas Ross
Ugly as hell, looks like a big butterknife
Jason Brooks
That's a beautiful weapon though.
Jaxon Miller
Not as much as the shashka
James Rogers
he never said kiliji is the best cutting weapon you dumb roach
Sebastian Ortiz
looks like a long kitchen knife
Joshua Kelly
Curved swords HATE this small trick.
Click here to learn more.
Camden Ross
He says so at at exactly 4 minutes in.
Can you please go back and troll the other thread instead mr. hideous?
Brandon Gutierrez
>hes so poorfag that he makes his shield out of wood
William Rivera
It would have been embarrassing if this ugly piece of junk was kept by WW1
Ethan Myers
and how would a straight sword deal with a shield?
Isaac Fisher
Thats not a Buckler.
Hunter Gonzalez
stabbing somebody around the edge of the shield perhaps
Landon Morgan
Ugh, hideous culicue. Looks like something inspired by Trumps bedroom.
Carson Nguyen
(You)
Evan Baker
>judging killing tools by their aesthetics instead of their effectiveness
Connor Ward
>Cutting boneless carcass
Tho it's nice for a change that they are not testing katana on this.
Oliver Peterson
Nice, look kinda east asian
Brody Watson
woah it was that simple huh? Then why the fuck people bothered with shields?
Logan Gutierrez
They are probably related to the Greek Kopis.
Matthew Wilson
The Kilij is a scimitar you retard. It's what the entire thing is literally based on.
> the Early Middle Ages, the Turkic people of Central Asia came into contact with Middle Eastern civilizations through their shared Islamic faith. Turkic Ghilman mamelukes serving under the Umayyad and Abbasid Caliphates introduced "kilij" type sabers to all of the other Middle Eastern cultures. Previously, Arabs and Persians used straight-bladed swords such as the earlier types of the Arab saif, takoba and kaskara.
The tip was made heavier to increase impact like a hammer.
Robert Thomas
to block arrows?
Aaron Roberts
The effectiveness of a curved blade from horseback is far superior to a straight blade from horseback. It's all about being mounted, and letting the horse provide the power. Slashing, in this case.
Evan Butler
except middle easterners did use shields you fucking retard, it wasn't a counter to curved swords anymore than it was a counter to other weapons
Landon Hernandez
weapons that can't stab are fucking worthless
>b-but no one had armor in the Asia and Middle East so it's ok the fucking thing was useless against armor!
bullshit, they knew chainmail, good luck cutting through that
Angel Cruz
I don't think the Ottomans or Turkic/Mongol people in general needed help on how to use their weapons from you.
Dominic Cooper
Gentlemen, behold!
Anthony Lopez
So you agree? There is a reason *middle easterns too* used shields you know?
Curved swords are very awkward tools when it comes to stabbing. Slashing is a quite broad move and easy to block with a shield or even a sword. Not to speak about armour which you are really going to struggle to have any effect against with curves swords. Despite you thinking that katanas slice through mail like butter, they don't. If your opponent has shield and armour you just aren't going to kill him until he tires out or makes a mistake. However a stab with a straight blade, which can be performed really quickly and unpredictedly, can be the decisive factor when you try and go around the shield or find holes in your opponent's armour.
Never said they make curved swords obsolete. Simply a straight sword comes in much handier.
Sincerely,
retard right back at you.
Christian Johnson
>empire
>includes vassal states
Xavier Parker
I don't think you are white so your opinion doesn't matter
Joshua Turner
If straight swords were so superior why did euros keep getting rekt by them and why did many european armies like poland and hungary adopt curved swords?
Samuel King
>south asian weapons are just ugly
I am sure it speaks "barbarian" more than European flanged mace would to you. Fucking tasteless faggot.
Jonathan Hernandez
This is so ugly and barbaric too, right?
Alexander Roberts
Lincoln Garcia
Looks way more sophisticated.
Connor Bailey
SEA copy of Dao, great job
Levi Clark
>only one tribal African weapon posted
Let's fix that, most weapons from that continent look absolutely appalling, with a few exceptions
Isaiah Diaz
>it has a curve, so it can't be used for stabbing
This is from some old D&D rule that wormed its way into popular consciousness, right?
Oliver Roberts
Henry Young
How does this thing work exactly?
Or is it a farming instrument?
Lucas Hernandez
It can be used in close combat as a hatchet or dagger, or more typically, thrown. The curved hook was used to keep the weapon in the victim, and if pulled out, causing further damage.
Anthony Brooks
He and the guy he replied to were just being ironic.
Levi Howard
Wooden shields were superior in some cases because if you picked a nice thick, pulpy wood it would catch the enemy's weapon and hold it stuck, effectively disarming him.
Justin Lee
You have absolutely no idea how swords work or how combat against somebody in full plate works.
Christopher Rivera
>I've built a firearm that allows me to miss with 4 bullets at once!
Lucas Evans
Translate: It means Nigger, Nigger
Aiden Sullivan
is that a kit rae?
Austin Johnson
Scimitar could mean any Arabic, middle eastern or Persian sword with a curved sabre blade. That is a scimitar you fucking retard.
Jayden Nguyen
Just what the fuck is that? It looks like it's deformed, why use this fucking travesty instead of a schwert?
Mason Jones
it does look fucking ugly as fuck
William Barnes
European nobles liked to do this too in the 15th and 16th centuries. They have a whole bunch of them at the metropolitan museum in new York.
Luis Taylor
shotels are cool, but they look silly
Mason Gray
African weapons are baller as fuck, get some taste shithead.
Cameron Price
>The effectiveness of a curved blade from horseback is far superior to a straight blade from horseback
Not necessarily.
It's just a difference in doctrine.
Running someone through with a long metal skewer with the momentum of a horse behind you can be just as fatal as slashing him with the momentum of a horse behind you, if not more so.
Of course on the other hand a curved blade is more effective for a cavalryman engaged in a static fight, but then again getting your cavalry in a static fight kind if defeats the whole idea of cavalry.
Lincoln Murphy
Yeah but they suck as actual weapons because they're made of inferior nig iron.
Camden Ross
>Curved swords are very awkward tools when it comes to stabbing. Slashing is a quite broad move and easy to block with a shield or even a sword.
>Bind enemy shield with your shield.
>Slash at his legs
Overly simplified but that's the general idea.
Jason Long
>boneless
look again newfriend
William Barnes
You should never fucking do a cutting test on a hanging carcass. The problem is that as you cut into it, gravity is giving you a lot of help as the target essentially tears itself apart.
Every cutting test done like this is essentially useless, you'd be surprised how little effort it takes
Isaiah Reed
This scares the virgin janissaries
Mason Sanchez
>copy the weapon of your enemies
>Poland stronk!
William Johnson
why? Turks used sabres too
Adrian Sanchez
actually Poland adopted sabres thanks to hungarian born king Stefan Batory
Michael Butler
>Being able to learn and improve your enemies way of warfare and use it to great effect against said enemy is not a sign of strenght
William Morris
> If straight swords were so superior why did euros keep getting rekt
Because European military commanders at the time were for the most part utter retards lol
Whenever a European army was actually led by someone not fucked in the brain, they had a much better time;
Parker Cook
*breaks*
Gay curved anime toothpick lmao Looks so faggy
Ethan Harris
This user knows.
Carson Mitchell
And now for something utterly boring
James Morris
The Polish and Hungarian Hussars are ultimately copies off Earlier Tatar/Cuman raiders and then Ottoman Light Cavalry, particularly the Deli.
>1550
Hungarian gear is TURKED by that point.
Jackson Reyes
>Choose to misunderstand
>be just retarded
which one is it?
First of all curved swords work well when slashing like i told. If your opponent doesnt have any defensive gear it can be even more effective. This is why people in hotter climates tend to have curved swords because due to the climate, heavy armor isn't really an option.
>if you have slightly better swords you win wars.
Also what about the 1st one? Alexander great? they all used straight blades and btfo easterns.
>won only because of the blades t. retard
Aaron Campbell
>The talwar originated alongside other curved swords such as the Persian shamshir, the Turkish kilij and the Afghan pulwar, all such swords being originally derived from earlier curved swords developed in Turkic Central Asia
David Nelson
>Vassal states aren't part of empires
Noah Fisher
I don't see the problem with it. Romans adopted chainmail from Celts and look how well they did.
Zachary Roberts
I don't see the problem with it either, but when you point that out to Eastern European nationalists they just go "REEE ITS NOT, OC DONUT STEEL."
Ayden Baker
>Also what about the 1st one? Alexander great? they all used straight blades and btfo easterns
Tbf we shouldn't talk reference spectacular generals when we're talking about sword quality.
Logan Phillips
but Arabs used straight blades...
Juan Allen
Haha. I as well am a nationalist hunter, fellow redditor.
Jayden Powell
never heard any eastern Euro saying anything like it
Landon Moore
I dunno, seems elegant to me.
Jaxson Morris
Try hanging around Youtube comments sections. You'll also find Turkish nationalists in screaming matches with them.
Elijah Flores
>Turkish nationalists
'Turks' would suffice.
Cameron Sanders
>Youtube comments sections
wow they truly represent how people feel
kill yourself
Robert Howard
not only did the Arabs use straight blades, but they probably used a majority of spears at yarmouk.
Henry Davis
>why did euros keep getting rekt by them
Low iq
Isaac Fisher
How fucking awkward is it to unsheathe that thing? You'd need to make one hell of a move, like damn, you'd most likely die before even fighting.