German anti-semitism

>Why is it good when our enemies are bombed but bad when we are bombed?
Of course, they were at war.
The question is why would """loyal"""" German Jews turn around and do the same thing in Germany.

Hitler launched a putsch not a coup.

Hating Jews was the norm for 90% of European history. Post WW2 era is an aberration rather than the rule, and often enforced at gunpoint.

Not only because of Christianity. Jews were simply more successful.

Those are literally synonyms. Just one word is French and the other is German.

Successful at being coinclippers and pjmps maybe.

Nope.

Yes Amerimutt.

I always see the /pol/tards here talk about how it was punishment for some Jews being part of a failed communist uprising in 1919 that all German Jews lost their rights in the late 1930s, but was that actually the Nazis justification? That would be like forcing all American whites to pay reparations for Jim crow today, even though it ended decades ago and most people you're punishing had nothing to do with it.

If that wasn't the rationale then what was?

What's the difference?

Every day we pay reparations...

Nuh uh
A putsch is just the German word for a party at a beer hall that gets out of control. Coups are entirely different things, the word literally means strike a blow in French.

At everything. After they emancipation they soon dominated many professions such as physicians or lawyers. Many of them became academic professors, others powerful and influential industrialists and so on.

Only radical stormfags think it was fully justified, the more nuanced /pol stance is that it is an unfortunate but understandable reaction. Sort of like the blacks in South Africa trying to steal the land from white farmers. It's wrong and short-sighted but it's understandable.

Many Nazis deeply believed that Jews are a parasite nation inside a German state. They thought they are biologically evil. That's why Nuremberg laws were based on blood, not faith.

Yes that's that Jewish nepotism people keep complaining about.

Nuremberg laws were just halachic laws.

Or rather Jewish superiority. In less than 100 years they became one of the wealthiest groups in Germany. I'm sure it's all nepotism. Poor Christians were just too good for them.

>Hating Jews
>Stormfag

Couldnt be further from the truth. Have you ever met a Jew? Or been to somewhere owned by them? They are an amalgamation of the worst leeches and parasites on the planet. They have kept my home in a perpetual state of war and continue to pull strings to eradicate any form of national identity that isnt their own.

They deserve everything they get.

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>Have you ever met a Jew?
Yes. I didn't figure out he was a Jew until much later though. He was short, pretty nice, but not all that good at tennis.

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Hatefulness toward jews has been a thing for a long long time. They are the eternal other. Quite easy to pin them as whipping boys when people have been doing it already for thousands of years.

German antisemitism is completely irrational, Jews were German's greatest allies through their entire history. Jews actively worked on Germanization of the Eastern Europe in Slavic countries while Germans wanted to grant them "Israel" - Judeopolonia that was supposed to
be Jew-led state in Eastern Europe (Altrough Jewish population would be less than 5% of the total population). 10% of the people that were granted noble title in Germany in 1800-1918 period were Jews while Jews were less than 1% of the total German population, the biggest arms producer in WW1 in Germany was Deutsche Waffen und Munitionsfabriken owned by the Jewish Loewe family, they also owned huge part of the Krupp.

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>Poor Christians were just too good for them.
Precisely.
Jews genuinely believe that God is just another Goy to get Jewed, what hope do honest Christians who abide by the spirit of the law rather than the letter have against such bald-faced perfidy?

Propaganda is a powerful tool and many groups hated Jews long before the Nazis.

>this same poster probably thinks that South African whites getting their land taken from them is "only fair" because they "are too successful compared to the natives"

The reason a lot of Jews signed up for WW1 was to prove their loyalty to the nation, they were always suspected by non-Jews in Germany (especially muh Junkers) long before Hitlers dad busted his nut in Hitlers mother

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It was state enforced. Simole as that. If the people in charge are powerful enoigh you will fall in line with whatever they say. The same thing happened in the other direction under king cyrus.

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The Nuremberg laws just codified a state of affairs that had already existed in Germany. The Jews segregated themselves.

I remember reading a book about Volkish ideology and all those more crazy nationalist ideas. They really hated the Jews. One guy considered them THE evil race. Basically there are only two races on Earth - Aryans and Jews and Germans are the closest to legendary Aryans (with the least Jewish admixture). Aryans of course represent light, while the Jews darkness.

In Germany Jews were assimilated.

They saw all Communists-Jews-Soviets-Radicals as one solid block. The USSR was a Jewish creation, as was Communism, and everything else.

One of the unique characteristics of Germany was how integrated Jews were in general society

Because they blamed the Jews for Germany's defeat in ww1

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Yes, the Ewige Jude has a part that specifically brings up the chameleon nature of the Jew. At least I assume it was the Ewige Jude, I don't keep track of these things. Whichever one it was that contrasts the grubby shtetl Jew with the urbane urban Jew with the slicked back hair at the party.

It was even deeper than that.

>Leibbrandt had written in 1937 that the Russian Revolution of 1917 had been founded on the fact that Jewry was "the bearer of the Asiatic-Nomadic desert mentality", which had mingled with the "Mongolian-Asiatic instincts" that were already in Russian blood.
Jews represented everything anti-German. They were parasites from the Middle East with no connection to the German soil.

>Blood and soil (German: Blut und Boden) is a slogan expressing the nineteenth-century German idealization of a racially defined national body ("blood") united with a settlement area ("soil"). By it, rural and farm life forms are not only idealized as a counterweight to urban ones, but are also combined with racist and anti-Semitic ideas of a sedentary Germanic-Nordic peasantry as opposed to (specifically Jewish) nomadism.
And Jews lived mostly in the cities and weren't peasants.

Why didnt they pretended to be assimilated in Eastern Europe too? Its almost like they and Germans had the same goals.

>Jews represented everything anti-German. They were parasites from the Middle East with no connection to the German soil.
exactly opposite, Germania became homeland of Khazars.

>Why didnt they pretended to be assimilated in Eastern Europe too
Who says they didn't?
Eastern Europe was just poorer so the level of Jewish sophistication was correspondingly poorer as well, a parasite can never grow stronger than it's host after all.

>How can you just start to hate an entire race?
Germans were just THAT evil. They used nazi magic to make everyone hate the innocent jews. This is the only possible reason because the only alternative would be that jews did things that pissed off the natives of country and as we all know jews would never and have never done anything of the sort.

Racial anti-Semitism became popular in the mid-1900s.

For example Nietzsche broke with Wagner and his sister over their anti-Semitism 50 years earlier.

Tell me, if prejudice MUST be a valid reaction to some sort of slight or hostile action, what did the cagots do to become so universally despised? Surely your theory is applicable in a wide variety of cases?

>If you say it in German it's different!

The absolute state of /pol/tards.

>Racism is 100 percent rational

>Who says they didn't?
Thats historical fact, only Jews that abandoned orthodox Judaism were those that adopted German culture instead. Btw even orthodox Jews mostly spoke Jiddish which is German dialect.

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Please tell us where "home" is?

Is that why they had to wear badges signifying they were Jewish? Because they were so segregated and obviously Jewish?

Cagots are faggots.

Germany was always pretty antisemitic and Hitler blamed the Jews at large for recent events like the WW1 defeat and the great depression, reigniting these old biases.

Keep in mind that the Nazis were never supported by more than a minority of voters. The hard-left communists and social democrats always had them outnumbered.

Interestingly, the parts of Germany where Jews actually lived in significant numbers mostly voted against the Nazis.

I am German and this is correct
Losing our jews was one of the greatest mistakes ever

Really? First I've heard of it. Surely you have some evidence for this assertion of yours.

>Keep in mind that the Nazis were never supported by more than a minority of voters
They couldn't even achieve an overall majority when the SPD fled to Czechoslovakia and the KPD was technically illegal

So you're saying German culture was so successful that it spread thoughout Eastern Europe and Jews latched onto it to achieve success they could not otherwise achieve naturally?

Because Germany was poor and miserable after WW2 and they thought abolishing capitalism would make things better

It was a shitpost user.
>Cagots
>Faggots
See?
No one knows exactly why the Cagots were persecuted exactly.

No, I say that Germans used Jews to spread German culture,.

You mean, they were prosecuted for no reason? That's impossible, it would require the French to be THAT evil, to make everyone hate the innocent Cagots. The only alternative would be that Cagots did things that pissed off the natives of the country for hundreds of years and yet nobody ever wrote down or can seem to remember what that thing was.

Well let that be a lesson to all the modern communists about what's going to happen to them when they try to abolish capitalism because they're "poor and miserable".

Knock it off or we will kill the Jews again.

Yeah this really is the bad timeline

Not only were Jews a huge part of German culture (Mahler, Heine, Freud etc) but now because the Holocaust happened we have to deal with Israel too

>You mean, they were prosecuted for no reason?
No I mean no one on the English speaking internet knows why exactly an obscure group of French peasants got the shaft. That doesn't mean they didn't get the shaft for legitimate reasons, it just means we don't know.

Sounds like a chicken and egg problem to be honest.

But surely, if they were being persecuted for hundreds of years, someone, somewhere, would have wrote it down, justified their actions. And yet, there doesn't seem to be any such record. Why is that?

germans thought they lost WWI because of communist jews.
in reality they lost WWI because democracy is superior to autocracy.
germany was fucked to death after the 100 days offensive.

>But surely, if they were being persecuted for hundreds of years, someone, somewhere, would have wrote it down, justified their actions.
Why?
Not every obscure custom and tradition from the early middle ages got written down.

>in reality they lost WWI because their enemy found a source of millions of fresh infantry
ftfy

Becuase it's not an obscure custom. It's something that spread out over an area of hundreds of square miles, and lasted for centuries. It wasn't restricted to the medeival period either, you have 18th century figures losing hands because they forgot to go into church in the designated Cagot entrance. Why is it that the Pope in 1514 could find no reason for their persecution and issued a bull against it? Surely, even if it wasn't written down, the contemporaries who were all for it (the bull was very ineffective in actually changing things) would have presented their case?

>Because it's not an obscure custom.
It is outside of France, to the point we're both basing our opinions off of the same wikipedia article.

>Why is it that the Pope in 1514 could find no reason for their persecution and issued a bull against it?
I'm not a Catholic, the idea of Papal infallibility holds no sway with me.
>Surely, even if it wasn't written down, the contemporaries who were all for it (the bull was very ineffective in actually changing things) would have presented their case?
They did.
They we're accused of being lepers, cannibals, heretics, and just all around evil.

Bullshit. Every other well-known German before WW2 seems to have been 1/4 Jewish or something.

That kind of mixing isn't possible if Jews were as segregated as you say.

>I'm not a Catholic, the idea of Papal infallibility holds no sway with me.
Irrelevant ot the point at hand. Whether youagree with the Pope's authority or not, the embassies involved clearly did, and would clearly want to make a case to try to get him to rule in their favor.

>They we're accused of being lepers, cannibals, heretics, and just all around evil.
And yet nobody can substantiate those claims. Hell, some of those would be very easy to do; leprosy, for instance, is enormously disfiguring in an era where they don't have dapsone. Bringing it back to the Jews, you see similar instances of often wildly inaccurate claims, like the whole debacle over Little Hugh of Lincoln.

Why is it so hard for you to accept the notion that often people have lots of irrational prejudices?

ironically these days Jews always rattle on about how the left and communists are evil because they oppose Israel

for instance the Judaism subreddit is staunchly pro-Trump and anti-left

Then how come Germany would’ve easily beaten democratic France one on one?

Damn looked it up and you're right. That's interesting and embarrassing for the Nazis
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933

>jews are greedy capitalists
>so if somebody tries to abolish capitalism we will kill them

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Heard about this a while back and found it interesting. Do you have a source though?

Seems like conspiracy bullshit

>Whether you agree with the Pope's authority or not, the embassies involved clearly did, and would clearly want to make a case to try to get him to rule in their favor.
That's assuming every embassy had an interest in proving the guilt of the Cagot.

>And yet nobody can substantiate those claims
No one can even substantiate what exactly the Cagot culture was either, why does it surprise you that it's difficult to pin down their exact crimes?

>Why is it so hard for you to accept the notion that often people have lots of irrational prejudices?
because the idea that a distinct group of people can simultaneously be declared evil across a region of hundreds of miles in an era when travel was limited is scientifically ridiculous to me. What mechanism can give to explain this outbreak of mass delusion in countless villages across the countryside of Dark Age France? Telepathy?

It's almost as if you're saying killing Jews is a win win situation for Nazis and Communists, and they should be natural allies.....

I wonder why...

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the ruling minority enforcing apartheid and writing laws specifically to outlaw competition and facilitate their ethnic group's takeover of all the country's wealth
vs
a middleman minority rising from the ghettos to nouveau-riche status through intellect and thrift in spite of discrimination and persecution

lol
You're just describing the same people at different points in their arc of power.

>easily
Lol. We just didn't fight too hard because otherwise the albionais would have wanked off on their islands. Otherwise we could have knocked them out alone.

Incidentally, I condemn anti-semitic perseucution in Europe while I also condemn the Israeli state.for its handling of its Palestinian colony. That said, Israeli Arabs don't have it anywhere as bad as blacks under South African and Rhodesian apartheid.

>That's assuming every embassy had an interest in proving the guilt of the Cagot.
The one defending their actions against the Cagots certainly did. Who cares about other embassies?

>No one can even substantiate what exactly the Cagot culture was either, why does it surprise you that it's difficult to pin down their exact crimes?
Or, you know, it could be evidence that there's no coherent culture or exact crimes and it's something that was perpetuated by pure inertia.

>ecause the idea that a distinct group of people can simultaneously be declared evil across a region of hundreds of miles in an era when travel was limited is scientifically ridiculous to me
Really, what experiment did you use to verify this?

Let's try another, comparable thought experiment. Virtually every school in every county in the U.S. has at least one kid who is bullied and considered weird, a loser, a threat, a problem. As far as I know, bullies in Alaska don't communicate with ones in Kansas, or is there any contact with the ones in Florida or New Hampshire. Are all of these allegations on the picked on kids true?

>What mechanism can give to explain this outbreak of mass delusion in countless villages across the countryside of Dark Age France? Telepathy?
As you noted, there's no real indication as to what a "Cagot" even is. Every community had their own picked on dudes, they called them Cagots, and there was probably no real relation as a backdrop against the rest of the community of a Cagot from Bordeaux to a Cagot from Aragon. It would be like saying all bullied kids in America really are dweebs, or faggots, or twerps, or whatever the popular lingo is these days (CAN YOU PROVE THAT THEY REALLY ARE TWERPS? WHAT IS A TWERP ANYWAY!? I NEED SCIENTIFIC VERIFICATION!)

This is a typical opinion basically everywhere except Veeky Forums, at least among liberals/leftists

>and it's something that was perpetuated by pure inertia.
Inertia doesn't ncome from nowhere.

>Let's try another, comparable thought experiment. Virtually every school in every county in the U.S. has at least one kid who is bullied and considered weird, a loser, a threat, a problem. As far as I know, bullies in Alaska don't communicate with ones in Kansas, or is there any contact with the ones in Florida or New Hampshire. Are all of these allegations on the picked on kids true?
A). The bullying that you're referring to is not equivalent as it is not passed down through generations.
B). Bullied kids usually have it coming. Speaking from personal experience as I look back at the weird awkward kid I was it was perfectly understandable that the more normal less faggy kids pushed me around.

>It would be like saying all bullied kids in America really are dweebs, or faggots, or twerps, or whatever the popular lingo is these days
But they are though.

Obviously, but I was explaining that the position is quite coherent, much like it's perfectly coherent to denounce the persecution of the Chinese diaspora in various countries while also opposing Chinese colonialism in Tibet, East Turkestan etc.

Proof?

Give me just one example of Jews putting the interests of the goyim ahead of the interests of the Jews. Just one.