I was already pretty right wing but became a lot more individualist, especially living in the UK with fat subhumans and pakis getting free healthcare at the expense of healthy and hard working men.
And yes obviously, Leftism is literally >waah do all my shit for me" and of course not to mention all of that new left SJW shite such as "bodyshaming" and the numale epidemic.
Ayden Ross
I’m right wing. Started getting fit after becoming right wing, used to be a progressive when I was growing up.
Austin Mitchell
It wasn't lifting that pushed my right. It was the disgusting, vile hate constantly spread by lefties in the media and the fact that they filled our countries streets with violent, subnational vigilante groups such as ANTIFA and BLM.
>inb4 /pol/
I'm not white, and I think Trump is a buffoon, but democrats are the biggest empty skulled sheep in the nation. You are either delusional or evil if you support the American Democratic Party. There's not other way about it.
Jace Roberts
right na right
I think as a whole most fitness people would lean to kind of libertarianism and look at the sjw lot with a bit of derision.
natsoc are likely a group more common in gyms but probably still make up a pretty small proportion tbqh
Xavier Robinson
>SJW shite such as "bodyshaming" and the numale epidemic. While this stuff is complete shit, it's confined to a small subset of the left.
>fat subhumans and pakis getting free healthcare While also deplorable, its better than them committing crimes. A small investment of money pays off in the long run for society. It's Econ 101 mate.
> 1) Do you lean more to the right or to the left politically and socially? Centrist. People on Veeky Forums call that left. >2) Did your political and social values change since you began getting fit? No >3) In your experience are people in better shape more likely to be right or left? No correlation at all. However in my experience, people who work out are less likely to be the negative stereotypes of their political groups. Like lefty fatties are all SJW ableism shills, right fatties are all women hating conspiracy theorists.
Jose Cook
literally never voting liberal after hearing such hate from ugly bitches.
Jaxson Gray
how is the "news" media allowed to print shit like this? >Science confirms that being right wing and caring about your body make you an asshole It's not really a fair judgement, but that's what the majority wants. So that's what they get.
Lucas Gonzalez
>1) Do you lean more to the right or to the left politically and socially? Economically I'm very far right. Socially I'm libertarian. >2) Did your political and social values change since you began getting fit? Maybe more economically right, though I have been since high school. Far more individualistic though. >3) In your experience are people in better shape more likely to be right or left? I know a lot of fatties and skinnyfats spanning the political spectrum. Everyone I know who's in what I would truly consider good shape is fairly right leaning if not libertarian right though. It makes sense that the weak would cling to collectivist ideologies though. It's a survival mechanism.
Adrian Smith
>ANTIFA and BLM. One came up as a resistance to America's growing nazi/fascist underground presence. The other came up as a response to racially charged police brutality. So according to you, Neo nazis and Klansmen as well as police who racially profile black people are better for your streets than BLM - a group created in efforts to hold police accountable for their crimes and ANTIFA - a group that beats the shit out of loud and proud neo nazis (alpha as fuck by the way... we all say we would punch nazis but these guys actually DO it. fuck yall)
Alexander Gray
theres some evidence to lefties being slothy gluttons
You seem to have an overwhelming amount of neo nazis there
Jason Diaz
BLM was built on the graves of thugs like Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. While there are actual cases of police brutality that go ignored by them, the moment they hear a black person was shot dead by a cop they assume he did nothing wrong and the cop just laid waste to him for fun. As for Antifa, it's nothing but violent sociopaths attacking strangers with the excuse of moral indignation. Either way, both have the same backing. These are not grassroots movements.
Christopher Anderson
Different poster but there's a neonazi student org at my school that has 12 people in it lol
Evan Price
>These are not grassroots movements.
What you said in no way contradicted their being grass roots movements, which they are.
Parker Long
It's common knowledge that George Soros is behind the funding of BLM and Antifa. Keep up, faggot.
Xavier Ortiz
So any organization with external funding is disqualified from being a grass roots movement? Get your head out of your ass.
Not saying BLM or Anitfa are good or useful, but you idiots will argue the dumbest shit.
Kevin Robinson
1. I lean left 2. I have not changed my opinions yet 3. The right are majority here in better shape but in real life right has lots of fat fat while left has either sticks or skinny fat I’m here trying to be swoleleft I guess
Isaac Rodriguez
Yeah I've noticed that fatties are physically inferior and mentally inferior at the same time
Asher Sanchez
External funding goes hand in hand with top-down decision making, which is the exact opposite of what a grass roots movement is.
Alexander Walker
Trayvon martin was retroactively made into a violent repeat offender thug by a very well done narrative backed by certain people. They wanted the spics on the side of whites and seeing niggers as bad PROBLEM is that zimmerman was a scumbag and seen as white trash with a tan by the mexicans and blacks and mexicans are fairly chill with each other. All it really did was serve as the tipping point for young violent blacks with no future and a hatred of the police and authority. The autographed pictures of smilling white cops hugging zimmerman was pretty much it. White cops were and still are being purposely murdered by blacks with no end in sight and no amount of false flag murders of black cops is making this into an evil unruly gangbanger vs decent god fearing men and women in blue is changing things. Cue the entirely fake BLM movement. It was created and is pushed to keep the violent niggers all in one place and ferret them out and pull them towards something and push them towards self destruction etc etc. Problem for them? No blacks who aren't obviously on their payroll or in their pockets believe in it. It's a fucking joke. A canard for white trash and snowniggers to point to as a insane evil bad guy that they don't have to think about and just scream EBUL at.
By the way, Zimmerman got the fuck out of florida and is living in a fucking white trash type are. He's been shot at and and had his life threatened multiple times now. Cops have stopped taking his calls and they STILL won't let the little faggot him onto the force.
Colton Morales
you're full of shit man no one is buying this
Julian Cook
blah blah blah blah remember his facebook pics were of him with a gun? trayvon
Lincoln Flores
consider the majority pov here
things are taking place that threaten a certain ethnicity
help us prevent those threats from materializing as much as possible.
Parker Rogers
1)
I don't want any brown or asian people imported my country. My country is a white and native country. Aside from that I'm almost a fucking socialist. I have no choice to vote for right wing parties because I value our heritage, race, culture and demographic outlook more than my idealist economic ideas.
2) Yes
3) Right
Aaron Wood
The Open Society Fund or whatever the fuck its called gives no-strings-attached money to BLM (and probably gives to Antifa, not sure), it does not interfere with what they do at all.
Christian Baker
You really believe that?
Charles Foster
1) Right 2) No 3) No one really lifts on either side, but those with a desire to better themselves will generally be right leaning or centrist. I'd say yes, slightly more interest in physical fitness for the right.
Benjamin Phillips
Nah I’m good What country?
Dylan Green
Antifa beat kids up with bikelocks because they want freedom of speech and borders.
Blm chimp out because another tyrone got shot, almost all of the cases blm makes a big deal out of turn out to be good shootings.
I'm not a nazi but I'd take the nazis over these faggots.
Jackson Morgan
Open Society doesn't give to Antifa
Jonathan Hall
> left libertarian > yeah, I was more moderate before > left, but my sample size is two
Liam Morales
Guess
Tyler Sanders
What country?
Andrew Richardson
Yeah, kids posing with guns on facebook to seem cool. Don't have a dozen white kids doing the same shit.
We saw through the narrative years ago user. There's no more new pictures or even a small hint of him ever going to jail for any serious or violent offenses.
They were able to convince stupid snowniggers of this and got zimmerman freed. But the reality is...the latin population you hoped to sway saw through this and the blacks who they thought they could shit on but have backing from the growing mexican population were livid.
All they've done is start a race war and and cop killing spree that is in full swing right now. Any white cop that pisses off a group of blacks now is in serious trouble. I can see the attempts at calming the black population here and there...but it's failing miserably.
Shit will get very very bad.
I also notice how they're trying to play an us whites(well rich people with "white" slaves and secnd class white slaves) vs them thing. it's not workingw.
Jaxon Martin
>1)
I'd say I'm center right or "alt-right" (the old definition before it was hijacked by neo-nazis. When it was about anti-neo con)
I am a UKfag. Pro leaving the EU, support smaller government, I'd say I'm a nationalist with a small n but I also hold a lot of views that would be considered "liberal" though. I think certain social policies are just the decent human thing to do, but am totally against non-citizens exploiting things like the NHS, and think citizenship should be much harder to gain for people who are not native to a country.
>2)
No, I've always held views like this.
>3)
From my experience to some extent yes, but I don't talk politics with people I know in the gym. The few I have spoken too who were serious lifters were right leaning, but didn't seem massively interested in politics either way to be honest.
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Gabriel Martin
>1) Do you lean more to the right or to the left politically and socially? Economically to the right, in terms of outlook on life (if you have to label me, then it is ancap) >2) Did your political and social values change since you began getting fit? Actually they changed before I started lifting and I would say I have started lifting because of Nietzsche >3) In your experience are people in better shape more likely to be right or left? definitely right
Tyler Bell
I want to say Europe but it would be funnier if it was America > Nordic?
Jordan Barnes
1. i lean pretty far to the right. not alt right but definitely a conservative.
2.yes. with hard work comes results.
3. im sure its not an exact science, it varies.
Isaiah Moore
>cop killing spree
The one that is literally not happening? Don't listen to lefty propaganda, but don't listen to Trump propaganda either
Ayden Morgan
The guy had lacerations to the back of his head and a Broken nose. Nobody saw the fight so nobody knows who started it. If zimmermans story was true and the chimp started the fight, he was within his rights to shoot. Maybe he started the fight, maybe he didn't. You don't convict people on maybes.
Colton Nelson
>1. No idea since I have extreme beliefs from both sides of the spectrum >2. Nope >3. I think people like myself who just seem to breeze through life tend to lean more right since shit's so simple to us that they wonder how lazy you'd have to be not to be as successful. I think the reality of the situation is that for most people it's not as easy and as a result they would like some help so they lean left. I'll never really know if that's true though since I can't experience someone's life, only imagine it.
Dylan Hall
I) I lean left wing libertarian; social democrat / democratic socialist, whatever. Progressive economically, socially libertarian. 2) No, my politics haven't changed. 3) My experience is limited, but I feel there's fatasses on both sides, and fit folk on both sides.
Christian Murphy
I'm the guy you were responding to.
First of all fuck you. America does not want or need self appointed violent vigilante groups clashing in the streets like some third world shithole. We have the National Guard to keep the Nazis in line and keep them from attacking people and rioting, we the people of this country do not want or need you.
Second, I mentioned I'm not white. My parents were immigrants, so my heart goes out to all the store owners looted by BLM who the media won't tell you about. If the riots continue, we will respond like the rooftop Koreans did.
Third, are you an ugly white person? Because LITERALLY only ugly white people are in antifa.
Ian Hall
Wtf?
John Jones
1. Right for both 2. No 3. No
Asher Morris
Actually New Zealand. I voted for the Nationalist party who are pretty well centrist with a dash of right and left. I'd otherwise have voted Labor (socialists) or Greens.
Those three parties ended up making a coalition and one of their agreements is to reduce foreign immigration by 40 something percent.
Strangely our real 'right wing' party are very much pro immigration, globalist types. That said most right wingers I know are against it. It's all very confusing, but I have decided that I will continue to vote for whichever party is most against mass immigration.
Angel Harris
The main focus for most of these protests is police shootings. We all have accepted Zimmerman was within his right. You ever heard of Eric Garner though? Alton Sterling? Oscar Grant?
Matthew Sullivan
1) Natsoc 2) The other way around, my values inspired me to become fit. 3) Definitely right, not because all of the fit people I know are right wing, (though many are) it's more that most all of the left wing faggots are dyels who simply don't want to do anything for themselves.
Justin Nguyen
US
Justin Turner
K well you do you I think you should just control it better like instead of camps and shit make it so select families that go through a vetting process can come in
Chase Mitchell
What?
Link me the footage of the shootings. I only know of one where the guy is in the car with his girlfriend that was totally uncalled for. The rest that I have seen have been totally justified.
Logan Smith
You ever hear of the store owners looted and victimized by these barley sentient thugs?
Connor Martinez
We don't have camps. Our country should not be multicultural. We should be letting in very few people those we do let in should be white Europeans because that is where our white heritage is from, as well as some Islanders because the Maori culture is so similar. No Asians, Africans or Arabs.
Gavin Reyes
>The rest that I have seen have been totally justified. Then start listening to both side of the story you mong. youtube.com/watch?v=JpGxagKOkv8 >inb4 dindunuffin He was literally choked out on the sidewalk for having loose (unpackaged) cigarettes.
>You ever hear of the store owners looted and victimized by these barley sentient thugs? Those people clearly deserve to go to jail.
Aiden Russell
You just drop that paragraph of text that has nothing to do with the thread
Gavin Russell
mandatory >Dr Jamal
Owen Phillips
> no strings attached money Jesus christ, who actually thinks like this? Are you a child? How did you end up on this site?
Nolan Peterson
You know what's cooler than punching Nazis? Choking out scrawny white """revolutionaries""", slamming them on the concrete, then ruining their future with an assault and rioting charge after they serve their jail time.
t. future guardsman
Aiden Watson
You can’t possibly think it’s realistic to completely isolate entire ethnicities right? Rich people, white or not, will vacation there and some might decide to live there Money controls governments bud
Wyatt Richardson
>Do you lean more to the right or to the left politically and socially? Left-leaning, but I'm mostly a centrist. >Did your political and social values change since you began getting fit? No >In your experience are people in better shape more likely to be right or left? I don't really speak to a lot of people, so I can't say.
Chase Long
Was replying to another post, just forgot to link his post; >They were able to convince stupid snowniggers of this and got zimmerman freed.
Jaxson Smith
Quick ask, where do all of these posters live? I live in Houston and have never met edgy racists like this irl. So don't just say "Widwest" or something, I'm really curious where these people hide
Ryder Reyes
1) I'm extreme left. I'd go so far as to say Anarchist. But socialist at minimum.
2) Not really. I'm certainly annoyed by fat acceptance and the people who are trying to make being fat an identity like being gay or being black. But getting fit really just taught me that that's a choice.
3) My sense is that fit people, certainly weight lifters, are probably more to the right. Though I'd bet that's probably less pronounce in runners and cyclists. So "better shape" is not specific enough.
Lincoln Turner
High test bleeding heart lefty here (pic related, 7 months lifting). Hetero af before you ask.
One time i got drunk and cried about the iraq war.
Hoping to get an nuclear deproliferation tattoo.
Come at me alt right edgelords
Written many articles about
Jose Taylor
Different poster but I think that means Soros doesn't have direct input into the organization? Like clearly they say take this money and stage a protest, or take this money and hire 5 organizers. But that's not the same as saying take this money and hire one of my people to sit at your meetings.
Lincoln Price
Oh one kid(who couldn't possibly have seen anything) said he saw the fight. He said and I paraphrase "It was like an mma fight" Which was an interesting choice of words. You see, zimmerman was taking mma classes and doing steroids before he decided to test out his sweet bjj skills on this random skinny black kid.
Even paid that obese fucking hoodrat off to say that martin went to her house then left to go GET HIM!
Zimmerman's rich lawyer jew daddy pulled some strings and got him off with a slap on the wrist. That's what happened.
Playing the ebul nigger card was so goddamned easy. It's no wonder rich whites like Trump and the rest can get away with so much shit.
Logan Sullivan
*about the president and how hes an evil racist
Evan Howard
I'm extremely on the right side regarding economics, with the exception of the obvious examples we took from the socialist experience, like labor laws and free global healthcare and basic education. Chalk it up to my dad being an entrepreneur.
Socially, I'm a full fledged libertarian. Legal prostitution and soft drugs would do wonders for both the economy and the social situation of my country. Also depenalizing hard drugs would help, addicts need to be helped, not shunned. I'm perfectly okay with immigrants, as long as they conform to the rules and principles of my country, but even in the few cases where they don't, I shudder at the idea some sad cunts have of bombing the boats of poor desperate fucks that come from Africa. We can deal with the rotten apples later without committing such atrocities.
>inb4 italian
2) not really. Always been like this. Tbh, as time went on I started to reconsider the better aspects of fascism, like endorsing physical prowess and martiality. But then again, these were never bad things in the first place, it's just that now they're forever associated negatively with the rest of the retarded fascist propaganda.
3) couldn't really say. A few guys at my gym are probably more right leaning, but then again, I never really talk politics with them. I also hail from a pretty secluded, backwater region, where there's still a lot of stigma on such things as black people and gays for... no particular reason, just common stereotypes and/or racism.
On a side note, regarding the other topic being discussed. From my external point of view, I feel like neo nazis, alt right, kkk, BLM and the modern antifa all have more in common than they think. It's the horseshoe theory, they're just so far up their political extremism in their violent ways, propaganda and general behavior, that they're closer to each other than to the moderate center.
Brody Nguyen
Vacations and tourism are not the problem I have. We elect our government democratically, and we can choose what levels of immigration we want. Which is why our government is reducing foreign immigration by 30,000 in one year. Money does not control the government here. While it certainly has influence, the vote of the common man and the ability for a new party to spring up overnight if its policies are being neglected or ignored by establishment parties, keeps them on their toes as to the wishes of the people.
Henry Harris
it's hilarious you guys think this of the left, when if it's any side of the spectrum that's funded by billionaires with an agenda, it's the fucking right.
Nathaniel Garcia
I know this is bait so here’s 2 (You)s
Andrew Gray
I was a drug abusing nigger worshipping liberal in my teens and turned into a straight up white nationalist the more Veeky Forums I got. I still enjoy rap music from time to time but lifting for the white race truly is the greatest motivation
Asher Cook
Richmond Texas
You should know where that is
Christopher Wilson
People have been fucking fighting in the streets using vigilante justice for a long fucking time. Stand my ground law is okay but not antifa? Cuckboy self hating faggot.
>all the store owners looted by BLM who the media won't tell you about. such as? please tell me i want to know who the blm false flaggers were paid to rip off
Benjamin Baker
I'm a lefty mate, that post was clearly supporting the other user...
And also both sides are obviously funded by billionaires. That's not even a question anymore
Liam Williams
I’m pretty sure that they can’t ever truly place a ban of immigrants based on ethnicity because it would cause a shitstorm in the UN
Juan Torres
>lifting
Could have fooled me
Asher Reyes
Does the term sampling bias mean anything to you? Veeky Forums is primarily right-wing/libertarian.
Kevin Rivera
That's neither a shooting nor case of racism. That's a case of retarded shit tier burger police being thug tier idiots. A campaign for more money for police training and an independent police standards authority would make sense. Chimping out screaming black lives matter because fatty got choked out by retards does not.
Jose Kelly
Sugarland? What do you do if you don't mind me asking
Christopher Diaz
I'm pretty far right but your results are going to be biased when asking on Veeky Forums, go ask reddit and see
Austin Ross
LOL
Right wingers are populists
American liberals are supported completely by all entrenched power structures
Jeremiah Clark
>Not a case of racism
Whatever you say bud
Gabriel Barnes
1) hitler and stalin invaded poland together. fuck the left-right spectrum.
2) no.
3) i don't give a shit about other people's politics.
Owen Rivera
fit and right wing obviously
I take care of myself and take personal responsibility for my actions.
Justin Peterson
You can't convict someone based on some retard saying 'it was like an mma fight'.
We don't know what happened, the jury didn't know what happened. The injuries to Zimmerman suggested that he was in a position where he needed to defend himself if he didn't start the altercation.
Lol fo real tho. I work for a Labor party politician in Australia. Squatted 120kg for a set of 3 today.
This is me in a Labor hoody before i started lifting
Henry Green
>Chimping out screaming black lives matter because fatty got choked out by retards does not.
The people chimping out and screaming black lives matter are controlled opposition created to protect the cops. Those blacks that were treated poorly by cops? They're shooting. Not rioting, not going on marches, not holding candle light vigils, not flooding nsabook with bullshit. They're killing white cops.
Austin Roberts
>Soros >Steger >Podesta Brothers >Reocher etc
>but muh ebil kock bros msnbc said dey were bad
>gay draft dodging twink crying about a war he's too young to remember
Gavin Richardson
I'm a paramedic getting my BSN from U of H.
Nolan Garcia
Yeah that's probably true. We are just reducing it across the board atm.
Adam Powell
Lmao wrong pick. Good thing i hate all those people
Isaiah James
Fuck this thread topic how do I bulk better? My lifts are shit help me
Colton Clark
I don't care where I am politically I only came here to say that Veeky Forums devolved from being right wing out of defense to being as annoying as those liberal SJW's except on the opposite end of the spectrum. The internet is just full of betas on both sides who look up "NAZI/LIBTARD REKT GETTIN REKT 2017 1080p" and look for things to get angry about on the other side. Although I've been exposed to the shittiest side of the left through various videos and media indoctrination I doubt that there's at least one logical person there who probably isn't so different to me, so who am I to say "My side is the right way".
All I can say is that when you keep exposing yourselves to stupidest of either side and then act surprised that they're being stupid it's nothing but some self righteous masturbatory bullshit that people find unattractive.
Brody Lopez
Right Yes Right
Ian Hill
Show me some bad shootings that prove its racist. I have seen the one of the guy in the t shirt getting blasted in his car with his gf and I agree its bad. It is not however indicative of racism. I've seen plenty of bad shootings from the US, and from what I can tell the races are pretty well evenly split.