The Virgin John vs the Chad Mohammed

>“As has been related, this Mohammed wrote many ridiculous books, to each one of which he set a title. For example, there is the book On Woman, in which he plainly makes legal provision for taking four wives and, if it be possible, a thousand concubines—as many as one can maintain, besides the four wives. He also made it legal to put away whichever wife one might wish, and, should one so wish, to take to oneself another in the same way. Mohammed had a friend named Zeid. This man had a beautiful wife with whom Mohammed fell in love. Once, when they were sitting together, Mohammed said: ‘Oh, by the way, God has commanded me to take your wife.’ The other answered: ‘You are an apostle. Do as God has told you and take my wife.’

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1. Mohammed didn't write anything, he was literate and the Quaran was compiled in Syriac by a bunch of dudes trying to remember what Mohammed said. The current Arabic version is probably a close translation of it, I don't know much about that.

2. Mohammed as a warlord cult leader. Even as an athiest I can understand a difference between Jesus and Buddha and then Mohammed. Who's spiritual message boiled down to fuck them or kill them, also I hate dogs, so God hates them too.

What is it about the Muslim religion that allows it to take hold of populations so quickly and turn them into hardcore beleivers? I don't buy the "they're savages" meme, my dad is Muslim and he's also an accompished painter and graphic artist with a master's degree from the University of Madrid. He is well travelled, cultured, and very intelligent. He taught me about philosphy, made me read classic literature, and introduced me to eastern religious ideas at a young age.
At the same time he told me my mom was going to hell because she beleived that Jesus was the son of god, and that Jews were sub-human monsters that thirst for power and control. I find it hard to reconcile those two aspects of my father as a man, which leads me to question the indoctrination practices of Islam that make it so appealing to otherwise totally normal people.
I should also note that he was raised in the Muslim religion, but was totally non practicing till some few years after I was born.

Now, that all being said I don't subscribe to either religion. I do beleive in the existence of God, but what he/ it might be I have no idea. The one branch of Islam that I find interesting though are the suffis, and more specifically their esoteric practices.

If you were Arab you converted because this guy is leading an army that uniting the Arabic peoples and now pushing into the Byzantine and Persian Empires, you assume God is on his side. Also he can kill you if you don't.

The Christians converted for economic reasons. Muslims didn't pay taxes in the Caliphates and only non-Muslims can be slaves. I'm not sure how quickly it takes hold, Egypt was like 50-60% Christian still during the Crusades.

People believe in it now because their families have been Muslim for generations.

Unlike Judaism or Christianity which is a compilation of different writers reflecting different attitudes. Islam is the teaching of a single man, and it also says he is the last prophet so there can be no alterations. Because of this, its way easier to be dogmatic about it. All the teaching fall in line with a single view.

>Muslims didn't pay taxes in the Caliphates
That is BS and you know it. They paid the Zakkat which was smostly equal to the Jizzya throught history, while sometimes it was less , depending on the ruler. There were even Christian tribes absolved from Jiziya if they showed they were loyal to the Caliphate. We can debate about what you think of those taxes, but to say they didn't pay any is simply wrong

I suppose Christians are similar with the afterlife part for non-Christians, how did he react to you not being a believer?

>What is it about the Muslim religion that allows it to take hold of populations so quickly and turn them into hardcore beleivers?
This is just confirmation bias from your own familiarity with your father. A lot of religious people are like that. Even irreligious ones (in sociological sense), too. You gotta be specific if you want to pin it alone on Islam.

Makes sense. I think the whole idea of surrendering yourself to God and transferring your agency to a supreme being is appealing for lots of people, it takes away the guess work of life. Everything becomes "inshallah," if God wills it.
I'm also curious if there was ever an Evangelical aspect of Islam, insofar as it is the duty of every Muslim to spread the faith, because that's not something I ever witnessed, you never see Muslims going door to door like Jehovas for instance. I remember my dad telling me "for every step you take towards Allah, he takes two steps toward you." Which is kind of /comfy/ if I'm being honest.

He used to be a dick about it, but he chalked it up to me being a kid and not taking stuff seriously enough. As I've gotten older he's chilled wayy out and now we have long sweeping conversations about theology that encompass many different religions and themes, but he always brings it back to Islam. It would probably be his dying wish for me to convert officially, but for the most part he is understanding of my spiritual flip flops.
Yeah, that's a good point. It's just odd to me that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world and has been for quite some time, not to mention it crosses virtually every ethnic and racial divide. But the same could be said of Christianity I suppose.

>I do beleive in the existence of God, but what he/ it might be I have no idea.

God is an omnipresent intergalactic extra-3-space "spirit" being. It despises Moses and Muhammad worshipers and prefers rats, oysters, squid, sponges, and the sort to Abrahamics.

Humans aren't remotely the center of the universe and completely expendable to God in the first place much less if they're going to be psycho-killing, raping, plundering terrorists in God's name.

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