Who actually built them? how come there are no writings inside?

you know who

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they were hermeticly sealed. google it. al mamun entered by using explosives and wrecking the building. his notes state that nobody had entered before him. also it is known that they were covered by the outer limestone layer until 100 years before al mamun. the thing in the "kingschamber idnt a sarkofogus. since its ugly and unpolished.

Meh, all of that is inconsequential.

What should really be asked is why the Sphinx has water erosion at all.

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al mamun was forced to destroy 3 red granite doors covering the entrence to the kings chamber to enter. when he finally did there was an empty room and an angry al mamun.

yes why is there watererossion? how old is this place really?
aldo did u hear that they found a new chamber tucked away inside the pyramid. a chamber not opened to this day.

what writings. proof ?

There is probably a good non-retarded explanation for this. We know about pre-dynastic Egypt and they were already building complex graves.

ur seriously telling me that they had the capacity to build these things but they didnt know how to use a fuckong torch? ludacris!

>but were they really cemetaries is my question.

The pyramids were tombs (the bodies having been looted thousands of year later) and all the associated structures were a part of a funerary cult and all of it was utterly useless.

Meanwhile, in Rome...

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You should actually study history, not retarded ancient alien crap. It's obvious for anyone with a functioning brain that ancient Egyptians build these things. There are earlier pyramids, mastabas, earlier graves from the Naqaba culture. The evolution is obvious.

actually we know very little of predynastic egypt. keep in mind that the pyramids were built before the weel, before the age of hard metals and advanced math.

> al mamun entered by using explosives
>explosives
>in the 9th century

No, he entered the Pyramid by using a battering ram.

>idnt a sarkofogus. since its ugly and unpolished.
see pic

I think its time you head over to /tv/ and talk about Ancient Aliens and the Joe Rogan podcast.

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They were tombs for the pharoahs.

i have studied egyptology and the "facts" are extremely conflicting. how come the buildings and techniques after the construction of the pyramids were way more primituve than before and during. its like they got more retardef with time.

they built plenty of shit aside from pyramids.

There's not enough air to breathe and use a torch. You'd probably pass out trying to write the first sentence.

Not just that, there is a chamber right underneath the left paw of the Sphinx, and we still haven't tried excavating it.

We immediately jump at the opportunity to dig shit in farmer fields when a single pottery fragment is found, but when something as big as finding out answers for one of humanity's unusual monuments we get an immediate no from Hawass.

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there is not a single text or remnant that says they were tombs. proove me wrong.

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wow, u really think they were retarded dont u? they could have added the art before putting the stones in place u smallminded persson.

Maybe it got burnt in one of the many Arabic explosions.

interdasting.

>its like they got more retardef with time.

There are dozens of rational explanations for that. Civil wars, steppenigger invasions, famines, climate changes, etc.

yeah they mostly wrote shit on stone. papyrus is a later invention i believe.

>the buildings and techniques after the construction of the pyramids were way more primituve than before and during. its like they got more retardef with time.

Almost like these medieval European cities without Roman aqueducts and sewers, amirite? It's as if when a great civilization goes into a decline/collapses the knowledge about building advanced shit tends to be forgotten as well.

Could have, but they didn't And never have done it that way.
They probably realized how difficult it is to write in such dark and cramped area and just said fuck it, let's keep the art work and hieroglyphs to the temples next to the pyramids. I'm not even saying they for sure did that, its just a possibility.

Or maybe it was ancient aliens.

ok here is another mystery. how did the lift things that weight hundreds of tons more than 100meters in the air?

What is the source/info on this

papyrus goes all the way back to the 1st dynasty or earlier.

they didn't lift them you dumdum, they used sand platforms

>in the air
Helium balloons.

or maybe it just wasnt a tomb because there is no art in any of them. unlike real tombs who also are in underhround dark places with very little air.

sauce?

Alright OP, von Daenicken was right and the ayyys built the pyramids. Are you happy now?

why does the grand gallery in the pyramid exist? what was its purposse and what are those wholes in the walls om both sides?

no thats not my theory. thats just pure fantasy.

>they built plenty of shit aside from pyramids.

Like what? What did the Egyptians build that wasn’t associated with their retarded and wasteful funerary cult?

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youtu.be/BVR5V-cmpbA

This guy has some pretty novel ideas.

I just want them to hurry up and send a drone into the newly discovered "voids" which I think will answer a lot of questions.

I truly think that a portion of Egyptian history, and by extension world history has been deliberately subverted in order to fit a narrative that was popular, and being cemented in the 1800's with the explosion of European interest in everything Egypt.
>Inb4 da joos
No dummy. I'm talking about egyptologists who deliberately falsified findings, and misrepresented others to fit their chronology and worldview, findings that over the past few hundred years have been cemented into fact, despite their dubious origins.
And no, they weren't built by aliens.

I do like the notion that they were constructed as industrial machines writ large (at least the Giza pyramids) for pumping water, and certainly a variety of other purposes due simply to their scale, and the massive undertaking it must have been to build them. Perhaps they were primitive "power plants" as well as water pumps or aquafers, but they definitely had a ceremonial purpose in my mind, and at one point may have been worshipped as gods themselves by proto Egyptians or the like.
I definitely think the Giza pyramids along with the sphynx and some other sites were pre dynastic, and possibly pre ice age.

Or I could be full of shit and when they finally explore the void in the great pyramid they find Khufu's mummy.

>Why did a monarchical state that believed in a funerary cult invest so much time and effort into building giant tombs for their king?
hmmmmmmm, I wonder....

Most surviving shit from antiquity was religious based, tombs, temples, etc.

how about countless cities roads bridges farming tools art math astronomy militarycomplexes. how about u google a little. il help u, google luxor.

I’m curious, what else are you expecting to find? What other civilizations can boast comparable structures that are 3000+ years old? Not many I think

this. omfg this is exactly what i believe.

actually its 5000 years.

Hawass is either a retarded extremist clinging to an 18th century understanding of Egyptian history, or he's a fucking wizard who's hoarding all the secret knowledge for himself. Or maybe he's last in a long line of Egyptian priests sworn to protect the secrets of the ancient people's of Egypt. What better place to exact control than as the national head of the whole fucking thing.

why does the grand gallery in the pyramid exist? what was its purposse and what are those wholes in the walls om both sides?

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>purpose
probably where most of the pharaoh's riches were.

>holes in the walls
idk, ventilation for the engravers? The walls were also painted, maybe they needed airflow for the paint to dry properly?

they were built to store grain, brainlets

> Luxor
> literally a part of the Egyptian funerary cult

The Egyptians didn’t build or create shit that wasn’t a part of their funerary cult, all their writing and mathematics was directly related to their funerary cult, they built no roads or bridges and their cities were a disorganized mass of mud brick hovels and even the nomarchs (essentiality Egyptian nobility) didn’t live much better.

Only the pharaohs had palaces and such and only because they were the foundation of the Egyptian funerary cult.

Off of which was admittedly cool looking but as effectively irrelevant in the evolution of civilization.

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ur just mad cuz it isnt a european civilisation.

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There is a good chance the pyramids had all been looted by the end of the new kingdom.

Its Las vegas

al mamun was first to enter kings chamber thats facts.

They may have been looted before they were ever even sealed in the first place.

So what if Egypt was a highly religious society? You're comparing a bronze age civilization to the more advanced iron age ones like Rome and Greece. Even Mesopotamia wasn't much better of than Egypt. Also you're lying if you say they didn't built cities and roads. The oldest roads are found in Egypt. They're primitive sure but they were a marvel for their time. At this point we're just arguing aesthetics which is subjective.

dont mind shitposters

>how come they are aligned to true north?
Why not? it's the easiest, most obvious alignment to do.

But that looks nothing like what stone eroded by water looks like.

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i dont think u understand why this is so amazing. it is the most precise building ever built. i is only of bu 0.0000006 degrees or something like that.

thats not rainerosion my friend.

>who actually built them? how come there are no writings inside?

What are you talking about? There's literally Khufus name was written in the upper relieving chamber of the Kings Chamber, in a place unaccessible after the pyramids construction.

Who wants to go next? Sphinx water erosion retards?

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This has been settled over two centuries ago.

Schoch's argument hinges on weathering and weathering morphologies of the in situ rock not erosion. Erosion is the process which removes material; weathering is the process which degrades the rock in place. Schoch has indicated that the rounded profile of some of the Sphinx was due to "precipitation-induced weathering" rather than "wind-induced weathering" which supposedly produced a straight profile on other weathered rock structures. Supposedly there was only sufficient water to produce this "precipitation-induced weathering" during a wet period some 7000 years ago. Thus Schoch makes his argument for increased antiquity of the Sphinx (i.e, it had to exist more than 7000 years ago rather than the approx 4500 years ago to which it is normally dated). West has pushed this age back further and has tried to relate it to Atlanteans.
Schoch's ideas ignore several things. "Precipitation-induced weathering" versus "wind-induced weathering" producing different weathering morphologies is not an accepted idea, rather variations in the rock usually account for the different weathering morphologies. Schoch does not test his idea to determine if the rounded and straight morphologies result from precipitation and wind respectively. He just states that they do. If the "precipitation-induced weathering" occurred 7000 years ago and the "wind-induced weathering" occurred on structures 4500 years old, why didn't the "wind-induced weathering" obliterate the older "precipitation-induced weathering?" Schoch also ignores the possibility that other processes could cause the weathering morphology.

catchpenny.org/augustm.html

a-alberto is that you?

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who cares? they're big piles of stone. They do nothing.
The sewers built in roman times in rome are still there, and still actually working.
That's more amazing and contributed more than these glorified tombs.

Counter weight track for lifting the relieving chamber stones.

Is the water pump idea credible? I know very little about Egypt but the whole tunnel network idea is interesting.

>how did the lift things that weight hundreds of tons more than 100meters in the air?

They didn't, the Egyptians used an internal spiral ramp that was closed off after finishing the pyramid.

This has been confirmed by ultra-sound or whatever you call it.

youtube.com/watch?v=Ws4O5LOCI68

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That erosion looks like that because water flowed through it, not because it was rained on.

>So what if Egypt was a highly religious society?

Because it was a huge wasted effort that could have been put to better uses, like building stone roads to stone castles/forts to protect their borders, or actual cities and not mud-brick favelas, or digging the Suez Canal several thousand years earlier and greatly expanding trade and knowledge, etc.

But no, they instead built fancy cemeteries….

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>who actually built them? how come there are no writings inside?

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Many dynasties of Egypt funded themselves by tomb raiding. Especially during the intermediate periods and from the 900s b.c to the 700s b.c when Egypt was fractured and made up of several petty kingdoms

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wow these westerners are really hateful towards a culture that influenced greek and roman culture so much.

that looks like a child drew it.

Of course they aren't pretty inside, you dumb fuck. They're thousands of years old and impossible to miss - they've been pillaged. For reference, Cleopatra was closer in time to the moon landing than to their construction. Use your brain

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diary_of_Merer

Case closed. Only a fool would still believe that pyramids weren't build by Egyptians.

>The diary of Merer (Papyrus Jarf A and B) are logbooks written over 4,500 years ago that record the daily activities of workers who took part in the building of the Great Pyramid of Giza. The text was found in 2013 by a French mission under the direction of Pierre Tallet of Sorbonne University in a cave in Wadi al-Jarf. The text is written with hieroglyphs and hieratic on papyrus.[1] These papyri are the oldest ones with text ever found.[1][2] The diary of Merer is from the 26th year of the reign of Pharaoh Khufu.[3] The text describes several months of work with the transportation of limestone from Tora to Giza.[4] Merer was a middle ranking official with the title inspector (sHD). He was responsible for bringing stones from the Tora quarries to the pyramid.

Why the fuck would egyptians build roads when their entire fucking realm follows the Nile river?

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Why the drain (?) Up the middle?

The ancients had their own version of the suez canal you massive fucking brainlet. Learn something before you talk shit.

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>pic
boy they really didn't want that fucker getting out of there

Went to Egypt recently, it was pretty impressive. Lack of humidity helps conservation so much its insane. Those are thousands of years old and still colored fine.

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