Islamic golden age

What went wrong?

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Mongols
Their are still a lot of smart ass people from Iran though.

Mongols. If they hadn't sacked one of the greatest cities in the world, Baghdad, Muslims would have continued to compete against Europeans past the middle ages.

Ran out of Roman Greek religion writing to plagiarize.

>greatest cities in the world, Baghdad
yea no

First, you need to understand the elements that made it happen in the first place, then see how they were subverted one by one.

How were scholars made? Wherever they came from, a young student trained under a master teacher in skills that would land him a bureaucratic job. This suited the large glut of second+ sons of lower nobility and the middle class who didn't already have something lined up for them. The whole thing was an open market however, and very soon the more illustrious a teacher the more prestige there was in studying under him.

How did teachers gain prestige? By doing well enough to gain the attention of rich patrons to produce ever more impressive books. This created specialties, rivalries, and some serious output of all kinds of sciences, arts, and philosophies.

Where could one find these rich patrons? Among the governors and aristocrats who served the Caliphs and their appointed agents. To get the job involved a lot of bribery and flattery and elevation of prestige, and patronizing great scholars was one of many different ways to do it.

There's more to it but those are the most basic aspects of how the whole thing worked. Civil servants competing with rival governors funded scholars and artists to bolster the prestige of their courts. Those scholars competed for those positions by dabbling in any unique research, compiling tons of information in one place, or engaging in vigorous debates both live and in text with other scholars. Finally students from all over the Islamic world traveled (usually as merchants, and so adding to trade) to find and study under these scholars and qualify for government work, and every so often another scholar who goes above and beyond the norm will emerge just like before.

>translating and preserving knowledge is plagiarism
I bet you never heard of Avicenna and Alhazen.

It was one of the biggest cities of it's time and the center of learning. Why not?

So, what happened?

The flow of students dwindled. Populations dropped from plague and nomadic settlement. The rise of political chaos and no-mans-land between rival states, along with increasing danger to old trade routes, started cutting off students wanting to travel from one end of the Islamic world to the other. Furthermore the old government jobs were beginning to dry up as new military regimes began to favor minorities or their own tribesmen to fill those positions.

The teachers were beginning to disappear, too. As urban centers collapsed, so did the knowledge markets that sustained them. Increasingly destitute, the only sources of income were religious foundations which over time became increasingly controlled by governments who didn't care for prestige or novelty but only stability and legitimacy.

Finally the patrons that supported them retreated from government careers, also finding them controlled by foreign military tribes who no longer answered to a civil bureaucracy. So they took to funding public works instead: bathhouses, markets, and schools, but as stated above these became increasingly pinched by government pressure to conform to state propaganda over research and study for the sake of it.

Because it was Muslim, enough said.

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Stagnation

shirk

Sandwiched between Christian raiders on one side and Mongol conquerors on the other. As other posters noted, fall of the Abbasid Caliphate was the beginning of the end.

And I want to also point out that the Baghdad at the time of Hülegü's invasion was not the Baghdad of the 9th century that we assume it to be. The city was filled with sectarian conflict b/w Shias and Sunnis, fires and riots were common place and the very same year of the sacking a great flood wracked the city.

It is as silly as saying when Constantinople fell, the Christian age of enlightenment was over. That being said, the destruction of the House of Wisdom was painful for Islamic intellectualism, however there were also many other important libraries in the Muslim world especially in Cairo

What if the House of Wisdom prevailed? at least until Ottoman will they recovered the glory of Islamic golden age?

Isn't the 'golden age' started to dim even long before the sack of baghdad? I read this somewhere that Muslim scholars no longer have passion to do scientific research because they think Quran is the only correct guidance and Muslim should no longer discovers any thing again and uses Quran as the only lifeguide. This combined with many caliphs during Abbasid who prohibited some discoveries because they think it was heresy and challenging their faith.

The Mongol conquests and Sack of Baghdad in 1258 literally just ended it right.

>Isn't the 'golden age' started to dim even long before the sack of baghdad? I read this somewhere that Muslim scholars no longer have passion to do scientific research because they think Quran is the only correct guidance and Muslim should no longer discovers any thing again and uses Quran as the only lifeguide. This combined with many caliphs during Abbasid who prohibited some discoveries because they think it was heresy and challenging their faith.
Isn't it what al-Ghazali was basically saying ? Philosophy is shite, philosophers are heretic-tier, the Quran is the only means of illumination for mankind, etc.

Do you have further reading lists regarding to this? I'm interested to do some research.

Well now I'm asking if al-Ghazali was only hostile to philosophy or if he disliked every other form of (non-religious) science too.

This faggot called Mathematics "the devils game", and he claimed philosophy was against Islamic teachings. Today he is considered to be the greatest Islamic scholar among all of the 4 school of Sunni Islam and Shia Islam.

I am talking about Ghazali.

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Replace Muslims with Persians pls

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>persian in 13th century
>not muslim

>Islamic
>golden
>age

Well they're clearly Islam so fuck off

No more civilized people to conquer and libraries to loot.

Go have sex with your cousin Ibrahim like the rest of your kind. How can a religion be so shitty that over half of its followers are results of cousin inbreeding?

Al-Ghazali happened and his autistic world-view.

Mongols are a meme. They didn't even reach much of the Islamic world.

>Mongols are a meme
Only to an extent I think, attributing the decline of the muslim world to them is far-fectched, but they sacked a lot of islamic metropolises and were seen by some scholars as an apocalyptic army which goal was to obliterate islam.

*far-fetched

>They didn't even reach much of the Islamic world.

They literally obliterated the most important city in Islamic civilization, killed the Caliph, and reduced Persia's population to 10% of what it was before the invasion.