The ultimate redpill:

The ultimate redpill:

Lifting, beyond noob gains, has absolutely no effect on how women perceive you.

The most important thing for getting women is face, height and general build outline (frame, to quote the meme).

Even then, women will very frequently disregard physical appearance.

So don't obsess over getting huge, or about exercise selection or about optmial programming or about optimal macro breakdowns, lift for health and as long as you struggle at the gym you'll always look good optimal in the eyes of women.

>women will disregard physical appearance
but thats wrong you fucking retard

its just the fact that being huge is not attractive to them, just like most men dislike girls on steroids
it just looks freakish

They still do want attractive and handsome men.

Depends on the woman,

The majority do not want some freak who looks like a professional bodybuilder or a powerlifter/strongman. Women are mostly attracted to male bodies that are visibly muscular and lean, but not huge. If your goal is to attract women, then there is no point in doing any cycle other than Anavar or Tbol.

Also a lot of women like men with body hair, my girl has asked me to stop trimming myself. I think it looks awful, but she can't get enough of it and loves running her fingers through my chest hair.

>Status
>Wealth
>Appearance
>Personality

in that order

okay Ill just go kill myself now
thanks for enlightening us OP!

who cares what women think
lift to be stronger

Eat a bullet

Ryan gosling is beyond noob gains there.

>The ultimate redpill:
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>Lifting, beyond noob gains, has absolutely no effect on how women perceive you.
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>The most important thing for getting women is face, height and general build outline (frame, to quote the meme).
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>Even then, women will very frequently disregard physical appearance.
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>So don't obsess over getting huge,
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> or about exercise selection or about optmial programming or about optimal macro breakdowns,
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> lift for health
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>and as long as you struggle at the gym you'll always look good
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>optimal in the eyes of women.
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Source: loving gf who cooks me food and lifts with me and massages my traps and throats my dick, and the handful of bitches trying to mate-poach me from her

Chicks like muscles. All of them. They like height, face and frame more than muscles, but they still like muscles. The ones who say they don't say they don't because they have low self esteem and they don't want an actual quality partner because they don't want to get dumped or worry about getting dumped and they'd rather deal with that insecurity by cuffing a loser than bettering themselves. They do not disregard physical appearance. They are demonstrably more verbal than visual, but visuals still matter. They also like getting fucked well and getting picked up and tossed around and you need muscles for all of that too. They also are 50-75% your size and strength and need you to do the shit they're too weak or small to do.

Lift for whatever, but don't be wrong on purpose.

>wealth
>status
>personality
>looks

Ftfy