Lifting, beyond noob gains, has absolutely no effect on how women perceive you.
The most important thing for getting women is face, height and general build outline (frame, to quote the meme).
Even then, women will very frequently disregard physical appearance.
So don't obsess over getting huge, or about exercise selection or about optmial programming or about optimal macro breakdowns, lift for health and as long as you struggle at the gym you'll always look good optimal in the eyes of women.
Ryder Gray
>women will disregard physical appearance but thats wrong you fucking retard
its just the fact that being huge is not attractive to them, just like most men dislike girls on steroids it just looks freakish
They still do want attractive and handsome men.
Michael Myers
Depends on the woman,
The majority do not want some freak who looks like a professional bodybuilder or a powerlifter/strongman. Women are mostly attracted to male bodies that are visibly muscular and lean, but not huge. If your goal is to attract women, then there is no point in doing any cycle other than Anavar or Tbol.
Also a lot of women like men with body hair, my girl has asked me to stop trimming myself. I think it looks awful, but she can't get enough of it and loves running her fingers through my chest hair.
David Nelson
>Status >Wealth >Appearance >Personality
in that order
Kevin Flores
okay Ill just go kill myself now thanks for enlightening us OP!
Austin Gomez
who cares what women think lift to be stronger
Easton Wilson
Eat a bullet
Joseph Turner
Ryan gosling is beyond noob gains there.
Henry Evans
>The ultimate redpill: F >Lifting, beyond noob gains, has absolutely no effect on how women perceive you. F >The most important thing for getting women is face, height and general build outline (frame, to quote the meme). T >Even then, women will very frequently disregard physical appearance. F >So don't obsess over getting huge, F > or about exercise selection or about optmial programming or about optimal macro breakdowns, T > lift for health F >and as long as you struggle at the gym you'll always look good T >optimal in the eyes of women. F
Source: loving gf who cooks me food and lifts with me and massages my traps and throats my dick, and the handful of bitches trying to mate-poach me from her
Chicks like muscles. All of them. They like height, face and frame more than muscles, but they still like muscles. The ones who say they don't say they don't because they have low self esteem and they don't want an actual quality partner because they don't want to get dumped or worry about getting dumped and they'd rather deal with that insecurity by cuffing a loser than bettering themselves. They do not disregard physical appearance. They are demonstrably more verbal than visual, but visuals still matter. They also like getting fucked well and getting picked up and tossed around and you need muscles for all of that too. They also are 50-75% your size and strength and need you to do the shit they're too weak or small to do.
Lift for whatever, but don't be wrong on purpose.
Samuel Diaz
>wealth >status >personality >looks
Ftfy
Kayden Miller
>"W-women MUST care about muscle" >Being this naive
Grayson Sanders
a guy without muscles doing well with women dousent equeal them not liking it.
also, hes rich and famous you retard
Ethan Bell
Status and wealth can be lumped together.
Ryan Walker
>tfw shit face >shit frame >5'8 Muscles are all I have, OP.
Nathan Robinson
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Evan Gray
>Never improve Post godtier face, height, and frame user.
Jaxson Lee
Why did you have to remind me user he is no longer with us :'(
Josiah Gray
Legends never die
Luis Cox
Fuck off rabbi I'm sick of being a fat piece of shit. Stop giving me fodder to throw at myself.
Gabriel Phillips
Lack of muscles =/= charisma
Landon Sanchez
gosling had broken up with mendes and they were just having a fun fuck when she "became" pregnant. it is a sham relationship in a sense, because they are together to raise their kids, but gosling is slipping his mapledick into any and all vaginas he can.
Caleb King
You're full of shit OP. Dont make me screenshot my tinder profile
Evan Rivera
Why you posting a gay bottom for? Women want a man, not a best friend to cry with
Grayson Reed
If you’re lifting for girls you’ll stop lifting at noob gains. Those of us who train years beyond noob gains are not >lifting for girls
Luke Smith
Speaking of Jomny Deep, you boys ever see The Ninth Gate? I never saw it before and watched it the other day. It was good actually. Chick was cute.
Jaxon Thompson
Why exactly should I give a fuck about what most women find attractive? Most women would suck a cock for money, I don't see how women should define anything for men.
As long as you fucking stay true to yourself and don't let fear distract you, you will find a lot of women to fuck.
If you want to fuck bitches, go on, lift for it. If you want to fuck women you almost certainly have to make them feel safe around you and I garantee that you won't archieve that by your retarted mindset of lifting.
Grayson Gomez
this is the fitness board, not the "getting women" board, go back to whatever miserable pua subreddit you came from.
Jeremiah Sanchez
Who cares what women want. I want the Gods to see me as their equal.
Xavier Collins
>You have to make women feel safe by lifting
New levels of mental retardation observed on internet discussion board.
Aiden Bennett
>Hey guys, I have the ULITIMATE redpill! >Working out is pointless! >Might as well stop working out now, so me and the rest of the numales have a chance I shiggy your diggy
Lincoln Morgan
Haha yes we lifters get all the womens
Aiden Harris
>*BURP* H-hey morty did you know *bur* working out is pointless morty, women only want substance morty *burp* youd be better reading some richard dawkins morty instead of going to the gym *burp* morty.
Hunter Ross
>LMS
>LOOKS >MONEY >STATUS
Angel Gray
As a muscular guy who's actually had sex with women, this is complete shit
If you get a good physique girls will never keep their hands off you
Angel Scott
The whole purpose of getin big is to scare other men. When manlets see me with a woman they keep a 8 foot distance, and their little beta orbiter puckers his asshole. It's the sound of that puckered beta asshole that gets women wet when they see me.
Jaxon Jones
>Looks that low I know some super handsome guys who would classify as total losers without their looks who pull 10/10 and have rich, hot girlfriends. It's all about looks.
Julian Cook
no lies detected, OP. women want a tall, lean man with wide shoulders that has some muscle definition.
Levi Johnson
Literally who cares. Rhetorical question.
Lincoln Nguyen
>all women want the same thing This is why you autists will never get gfs
Austin Ross
Stop samefagging, samefag
Ian Wilson
I have a gf and all women want the same thing.
Christian Gomez
>I now have my first ever gf at 25 and i am now an expert on what women want
Luis Lee
Have you dated all women?
Jackson Sullivan
Yes.
Nathan Green
learn to check for samefagging, newfriend (google it if you have to). it's my first post in the thread.
Liam Perry
>If you date a woman you have already been cucked by this gigachad. Why bother bros?
Michael King
worse thread in some time put yourself in this situation: you're a girl you have the choice between guy 1 and guy 2, which are exactly the same except guy 2 is more muscular.
You do the math, being buff is ALWAYS a plus
Christian Rogers
>personality >status >looks >wealth
At least in real world of normal people not fit land where everyone is a gold digger
Joshua Turner
Wrong. When I got shredded, chicks lined up immediately to suck my cock dry.
Julian Jackson
This is why you should train for combat sports like boxing, kickboxing, MMA, judo, etc.
Easton Edwards
hahahahaha this is what dyels think
Brody Bailey
Women are inferior and you shouldnt care what they think.
>inb4 fedora
Jose Parker
Rylan Gosling is in good shape, has a god tier face and he's a fucking movie star. This is your example to your "point"
Jacob Morris
But I didn't get any noob gains :(
Christopher Wright
>Chestgap
Nolan Turner
I lift heavy because I love eating heavy, it's either that or becoming a fat fucking whale and I ain't gonna stop eating so
Caleb Lee
>has a god tier face
he has a negative canthal tilt and is the textbook definition of a 6/10 face
Jonathan Hill
>6/10 face When 80% of men are under 5/10, 6 is indeed God tier