Is Iran/are Perisans the most cucked/muttified country in the world?
>BTFO'd/Conquered by Iranic Medians >BTFO'd/Conquered by Iranic Parthians >BTFO'd/Conquered by Alexander/Greeks >BTFO'd/Conquered by Arabs, Persians now worship Allah and pray to saudi arabia >BTFO'd/Conquered by Arabs again and again under the Abbasids and other similar dynasties >BTFO'd/Conquered by a number of dynasties from iranic groups that weren't persian like the samanids, ghorids, saffarids and so on >BTFO'd/Conquered by seljuk turks >EXTREMELY BTFO'd/Conquered by mongols >btfo'd/conquered into shiism under the threat of genocide by a manlet ginger turk (ismail shah) under the safavids >conquered once again by a turk (nader shah) >ruled by a turk dynasty once again (qajar) >even today the ruling class of iran are azeri turks/khomeini is an azeri/turk
So basically Persians have only ever ruled themselves under the Achaemenids and the Sassanids. Two great dynasties, without question, but for the majority of their history, persians have been under the subjugation, humiliation and rule by Turkics and mongols.
>inb4 that iranian saying we waz all these things or that "persian culture" dominated so its ok
It's a tragedy that Iran now bows before arabs and worships an arab prophet and an arab god.
Thomas Perez
I'm not persian but these kind of threads seriously need to be deleted.
Daniel Morales
Assyrians are definitely more cucked
Zachary Sanchez
They're Arabs now, so why wouldn't they worship an Arab God?
Logan Rivera
hEY gUYYYsSSS Is [insert particular people here] the most [insert /pol/tard insults] country in the world?
>BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people1] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people2] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Inssert people3] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert peop.le3] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people4] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people5] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people6] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people7] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people8] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people9] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people10] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people11] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people12] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people13] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert p.eople14] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people15] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people16] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people17] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people18] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people19] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people20] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Ins.ert people21] >BTFO'd/Conquered by [Insert people.22]
Isaiah Sanchez
No kidding these are genuinely the worst
Juan Rogers
>The Abrahamic god >Arab god confirmed for dipshit who has no idea what he's talking about
>Spain >America >japan >American gibs independence You only got cucked thrice
Dominic Moore
we get cucked by everyone actually.
Christopher Johnson
also whats worse my country's very existence, since its conception, has experienced nothing but cuckery.
Grayson Phillips
Iranians still genetically cluster closely to their Sassanian forebears on autosomal DNA plots. I can give the other sources I've compiled too, but I want to save my precious time, really.
this post is biggest bullshit ive seen in a while is this board usually full of unintelligent bullshit from people who don't know basics of history or is this just a poor bait?
Ian Carter
how is it wrong in any way? persians have only ruled themselves under the achaemenids and sassanids that's a fact that even most iranians accept
Benjamin Bell
>>>/reddit/
Leo Barnes
persians have only lived in a smal part of iran to the south the overwhelming majority or iran are other regions that got persianized during later eras you have to take ou that nationalist mentality of yours i you want to udnerstand history
also history isnt about "cucking" someone, its much more complex than fight between black and white
Christopher Johnson
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Andrew Murphy
If Turkroaches, Arab and Jews hate you, you know I you must be doing something right. The more Iran's influence grows the more the jealous apes that surround it will screech.
Jace White
turks and arabs ruled over them for 1000+ years there's nothing to hate iranians for, they see them as below them
Owen Ramirez
Isnt the raped by spaniards thing more of a meme since most of you guys are still mostly asian except for a tiny minority.
Nathaniel Roberts
Hot.
Juan Lee
Yet they still hate them why? Inferiority complex maybe? The funny thing is Iranians see them as non humans. Considering the history of the turks and Arabs no one can blame the Iranians for that opinion. Neither the turk or the Arab was civilised before their contact with the Persians. Neither the Turk or the Arab would have what little culture they have without the Persians.
Gabriel Jackson
>persian >civilization m8 that civilization died out after the sassanids, you're arabs now in culture, phenotype and religion
Josiah Green
Keep telling yourself that, your obvious inferiority complex is shining through your post, it's intensity is blinding. Realise it is all in your head you have a small ego proportional to the size of your little pecker and have achieved nothing in life and so like to feel responsible for all your people's achievements what little they have have achieved whilst never contributing to it.
Aaron Russell
not an argument
Landon Collins
>fight Romans for centuries >decide to throw literally everything into one final apocalyptic war >sack/conquer almost entire byzantine empire >still fucking lose >lose so bad the Arabs move in and destroy Middle east and NA
why did they have to fuck up so badly? they are literally to blame for the spread of Islam
Noah Thompson
>arabs only won because the sassanids were tired bad meme
There is little genetic continuity between persians from the achaemenid and sassanid era and now. Persians now are mostly a mix of arab+pajeet dna.
Josiah Hill
why did the arabs win then? how was a 20 year war not massively destructive?
Jace Cruz
>phenotype nope. but yeah, there's very little persian culture left.
Adrian Cox
On the bright side, the Persian Golden Age happened under Islamic rule and probably wouldn't be possible without it
Jordan Kelly
yes
iranians basically are MUTT: the country >either look arab >either look arab+pajeet >either look pajeet >either look pajeet+asian
I really doubt 150k Byzantines fought in that battle
Mason Rogers
>Arabs
The Romans of the Mideast. Imperialistic, militaristic, very conservative and religious, obsessed with honoring their traditions and ancestors. Practice honor killing and paterfamilias. Their language is now akin to Latin throughout the Mideast as a prestige language and the language of liturgy, thanks to their wideranging conquests. Lacking high culture, they were strongly influenced by the Persians - much like the Roman were influenced by the Greeks.
>Persians
The Greeks of the Mideast. Effeminate, effete, and unmanly in comparison to the martial Arabs - yet highly cultured and sophisticated. Their elaborate culture lives on through the empires established by the Arabs and their descendants. It is Persian culture that has defined Mideastern culture and shaped the core of Islamic aesthetics and philosophy. It is Persian culture that has been the hallmark of every major every Islamic civilization, from the Abbasids in Iraq to the Ottomans in Eastern Europe.
>There is little genetic continuity between persians from the achaemenid and sassanid era and now. I gave a source, you stupid piece of shit. There is at least 90% genetic continuity. Do you want more sources?
Cooper Smith
01/07 01/07 Legend:
Dimgray X Indian Dimgray Plus Sindhi Dimgray Fill square Pathan Dimgray O Kalash Dimgray Dot Brahui Dimgray Star Balochi Dimgray Diamond Tajik Black Fill square Iranian_Lor Black O Iranian_Mazandarani Black X Iranian_Persian Black Star Kurdish
04/07 Overall, 90% genetic continuity, and once the regional differences are taken into account, 95% genetic continuity. Most of these samples were from near Kurdistan, and do not reflect all of Iran's genetics. Kurds would be very close to these samples, up to 96%
This particular image represents Ancient Europeans:
The so-called "Arab" Y-DNA is at 8% total, mainly in Ahvaz, but my friend Arash/DMXX explains: "The strong presence of J1c3-PAGE08 is one of the surprising finds of this study. With an absence only amongst Assyrians from Azarbaijan province and a peak in Khuzestani Arabs (31.6%), I speculate this is an early Near-Eastern pastoralist nomad marker that is only accentuated in Khuzestani Arabs because the L147.1 marker (J1c3d), which is commonly associated with the expansion of Semitic languages (particularly Arabic in literature) was not tested here. Otherwise, it would be difficult to reconcile medieval Arabic admixture among Iran's Zoroastrians being comparable (and often greater) than Azeris, for instance, as Azerbaijan hosted Arab garrisons following the Sassanid collapse."
Thus, the majority of this was not even from Arabs, but from pre-historic migrations into the Iranian plateau, which predated Arabs by thousands of years. Actual Arab influence is not even two percent
All of this information together shows the average Iranian has about 90 to 95% genetic continuity, depending on region, to his Achaemenid and Sassanid forebears.
>this thread Can anybody explain to me why Persians are so sensitive about their heritage?
Oliver Kelly
Also mosaic.
Now, about cultural continuity. Iranians have many unique holiday traditions such as Nowruz, Yalda, Chaharshanbe Suri, Mehregan, and so forth. Moreover, the Zoroastrian epic, Shahnameh, helped retain much of folklore dating to Sassanian era, and its third portion is largely accurate detailing of Sassanian kingly lineage.
Before the Islamic Revolution, there were only 15% Arabic loanwords, yet the language was still grammatically Iranian. The loanwords could also easily be avoided if one wanted too, meaning the language at most had about 5-10% Arabic influence.
Now YOU Arabs, in the upcoming war, I want us to bring back scaphism, crush the skulls of your women and children, and show you true terror. We gave you culture, and we're going to disembowel you to fucking hell. Even your best scholar acknowledged Persians were the ones behind Islamic Golden Age:
As Ibn Khaldun suggests, it is a remarkable fact that with few exceptions, most Muslim scholars…in the intellectual sciences have been non-Arabs: "Thus the founders of grammar were Sibawaih and after him, al-Farisi and Az-Zajjaj. All of them were of Persian descent…they invented rules of (Arabic) grammar…great jurists were Persians… only the Persians engaged in the task of preserving knowledge and writing systematic scholarly works. Thus the truth of the statement of the prophet becomes apparent, 'If learning were suspended in the highest parts of heaven the Persians would attain it"…The intellectual sciences were also the preserve of the Persians, left alone by the Arabs, who did not cultivate them…as was the case with all crafts…This situation continued in the cities as long as the Persians and Persian countries, Iraq, Khorasan and Transoxiana (modern Central Asia), retained their sedentary culture.
Check here: Iranians have about 90-95% genetic continuity with their Sassanian and Achaemenid heritages, and I'm tired of subverting Arab pieces of shit trying to demoralize us, like we're somehow their rape babies, which we aren't. I really want to kill their women and children, for they are scum of the Earth that have contributed nothing to this world.
Julian Ramirez
>heritages ancestors*
Camden Young
>Is Iran/are Perisans the most cucked/muttified country in the world? If being invaded or conquered by someone else makes you "cucked/muttified" then every single region in the world, without exception is "cucked/muttiffied" repeatedly. Migrations and conquests are a constant of human society.
Eli Rogers
here's a comparison between Iranians, Kurds, Turks and Southern Central Asians
the majority of pakis are punjabi/sindhi/muhajir and the majority of those are no different to the average indian
Colton Davis
>the majority of pakis actually pathans make up around 20% of the population now. they're still a minority but it's not like they're tiny like balochis or sindhis.
>Fucked by all those countries >Maintains 90%+ genetic continuity from neolithic >Iran
>OP is real cuck
Adam Rivera
wait, so the Tudors were Welsh?
Bentley Brown
all 4 women are surprisingly good(above average) looking. Specially that cutie 2 from the right. Is this your average farsi?
Wyatt Nguyen
>are so sensitive about their heritage? Inferiority complex. I see the same exact reaction from my countrymen when arabic genetic influence in Iberia is discussed. I am Portuguese
Jackson Myers
I would say USA if we lived before the turn of the millenium. And i'm not american