How to recover from being a fucking loser

> live in a haze
> cant focus on any task, extremely behind on everything, professors hate me, every task feels like an enormous undertaking
> cant stay on nofap, break down and fap to gross indulgent fetish porn that won't do anything for my gf if i ever get one
> urban hermit, live alone, socialization/interaction with others is 99% youtube and chatrooms
> fell for the women-hate meme
> few irl friends, the ones that i have are as autistic as me
> mean to mom & dad, abrasiveness & general bleak outlook is starting to become difficult to hide when interacting with others
> haven been working out consistently
> unspeakable, abysmal sleep schedule
> empty fridge, have been living off fast food for months, dont know where next meal will come from, which is draining my wallet
> no motivation, want discipline but cannot develop it
> virtually no repercussions other than frustration in self and knowledge that i am leading an decadent, indulgent, immoral lifestyle

this is a horrible waste and i am currently a failure as a human being. i am so disgusted at how i am acting.

I know it is possible to recover from this, it has to be. Im 22, been like this for like a year and a half. i hope its not too late.

Has anyone here been through this? Does anyone have any advice? please help me figure out how to change Veeky Forums!!!!!

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What is your ethnicity?

half white/grab-bag-scandinavian, half north mexican, idk what that would have to do with it though.

at least i still have my morals

Yeah I've lived through most exactly what you're talking about. It's actually something I still struggle with today. Basically I began to realize that I've been given so many opportunities and I'm throwing my entire life down the toilet to be a selfish self indulgent degenerate piece of shit with no one to blame but myself.

Reading various philosophical works about virtues and things of this nature helped build myself back up from *absolute zero*. Began making patterns. Take trash out every time. Put things away after use. Take melatonin to establish a consistent sleep schedule. Thank my parents every chance I get.

Overall OP it can really help to just clean your fucking life up.

Become a hardcore right winger and get angry enough at the world you lift harder, won't make you very happy but better than apathy. I'd recommend the books reactionary liberty or democracy the god that failed.

Shhh.. becoming the ubermensch only works if you have a chance.

>I began to realize that I've been given so many opportunities and I'm throwing my entire life down the toilet to be a selfish self indulgent degenerate piece of shit with no one to blame but myself.
FUGG

Seriously, it's just about a will to action. A triumph of the will, so to speak.

1/4 french 1/8 sephardi jew 1/2 spaniard 1/4 italiano

im going to work out & then go stock my fridge right now, then get as much school done as i can before 2am

the madness ends now

so help me god i am the worst now of what i will ever be

Your problem is you are 1.25 people. If you loose some weight that’ll help

i meant 1/8 italiagne sorry

You want to know what your problem is?
> i am currently a failure as a human being. i am so disgusted at how i am acting.

There. Right there. You do nothing but be super critical of the way you act to the point of self loathing. For what? Being shity at school? Not working out? Masturbating? Give me a fucking break. So what if you like to jack it to hairy giantess sticking men up their asses. Fucking own it! You're sitting there doing things that you like to do (because otherwise you wouldn't be doing them) and you're giving yourself shit for it? Come fucking on.

The only real problem you listed was that you're under productive. Great. Work on that. But don't be a fucking bitch complaining about all the shit you like to do. We're all unproductive people trying to find a way.

Found the bugman

I went to the gym to do my icf5x5

Don't be a complacent loser, there is a better way, my question was how to get there not how to accept myself as I am

Improving yourself physically is great but you clearly have deeper issues. Paramount is developing positive thought patterns. You are what you think essentially and right now you think you're a fucking loser. You probably need to entirely rewire how your brain works, how you think about things. Try being positive, relentlessly so. About yourself, about the world, about everyone. It seems gay as fuck at first but just do it, grease the groove of positive, productive though patterns in your mind until they become the default. Watch how you speak and behave as well, likely you speak negatively and have self destructive or shitty tendencies. Self deprecating humor is shit, quit it. Being overly critical and cynical is also shit. Hell even too much sarcasm.

To change who you are you have to change who you are.

>The better way is not accepting yourself

Mate, even if you change yourself you're still gonna like the old things you liked. If your idea for changing for the better is abstaining from those things you're just going to make yourself miserable in a different way.

Talk big for doing your reps, but next week, or maybe next month you'll still be miserable and repeat this cycle of self loathing which will lead to more counterproductive behavior.

Your French DNA might keep you down a little but otherwise you'll be fine. The blood of Hebrew warriors and the Romans runs through your veins.

You need Buddha and the Dhama in your life 2bh OP,not even kidding.

Download In the words of Buddha and start reading son.

>tfw you realize you don't know anything, have never struggled, never done a day of proper work or studying in my life and didn't even manage to do hedonism right
I am completely empty, I am like a 2D projection in a world of 3D humans.

Go and indulge into some hedonism for a year then. It's healthy. You'll either come out with a new look on life, or it will consume you. Then you can get some of that struggle you've always wanted. I suggest liquor. I used to down a fifth a day myself.

Dont listen to this guy,or do,but care addictions are no joke.

t.junky

No what I mean is I was avoidant even when I was at my worst even as a hedonist, thus I don't even have any interesting experience from that either.

It seems my only skill is lying and convincing people I am a competent human. I've spent my life only skimming and getting a cursory overview of things, always dropping it as it goes into depth.

Lmao then stop

You need a higher purpose

Yeah, that's what I decided.

No one's stopping you but you
Go do something outlandish

You need Jesus.

Timothy 2:22

de-pattern yourself with psylocibin

It's weird you say this because this is almost exactly the way I was for a while. Another user pointed out being extremely self critical. That's super true. I was trying to do everything I could to be better, that I ultimately did nothing, then I would hate myself for not completing even one task. It happened day in and day out, until I felt like complete garbage. I ended up seeing a psychiatrist and I got vyvance to help with not being able to concentrate. He prescribed other things, but I didn't wanna take them. So school was taken care of. Next I just tried to fix myself whatever way I could. It's still a work in progress and I still get super fucking frustrated when things don't come out right, but at least its better than I was before, which is what you're describing.
Sorry for the blogpost, but I feel for OP, and I hope anyone else in this situation gets through it because it feels really bad man

Definitely plan on this. I've heard that for everyone that has tried shrooms, nearly all of them said it was the most profound experience of their life.

I did a small dose of lsd when I was eighteen and I felt really motivated for the next few weeks. It was like all the fog in my brain had cleared. Then I went back to smoking weed and it gave me way worse anxiety compared to before doing acid.

I've done quite a few shroom trips, and a few 5 gram trips alone in the dark. 5 gram trips are NOTHING to fuck with, it's seriously some mind-bending shit.

Now I don't really trip anymore but tripping has opened me up to daily meditating which has also shaped and transformed me and my personality. I view life through a much happier lens now; and my friends/family comment on how much happier I am.

Shrooms CAN be worth it - but only if you're willing to listen to what they say, and sometimes it can be very harsh, it can rip your ego from you and leave you a blubbering mess.. but it definitely motivates you to change that's for sure.

you're a fucking idiot

>but only if you're willing to listen to what they say, and sometimes it can be very harsh
yeah I feel I'm pretty good at just going with the flow on lsd, my friend had a massive freakout on it which kind of wigged me out but I held myself together. And finally someone else who meditates, I swear 90% of Veeky Forums's problems could be solved by meditating but they won't because it's boring to start with.

What's that hun?

I'm kind of in the same boat as you user, but I didn't fall as deep down as you did. For a while, I had bad anxiety about my classes and school. I didn't want to go out with friends anymore, lift, or just be a regular human. It got so bad that I wouldn't check my email for days at a time. I just wanted to stay in my apartment all day. I felt like a failure because i have a full ride to a great university and I felt like I was failing my parents and myself. For the past few months I've gotten my life in order and back on track, and while it sucks that I screwed up my gpa a bit, it's better than staying in my hole of self pity.

I've found that the best way to start is by doing the small things. Do your homework for tomorrows classes, make your bed, wash your dishes right away after using them, make plans to hang out with friends at least once a week. It's hard, but if you start slow you can build up your resilience and get back into the swing of things.

Try looking into buddhism and meditation, or stoicism if they seem weird to you
You don't have to accept everything they include, you can just try the and be utilitarian about it
Check out
>Mindfulness in Plain English
if you want to start somewhere
Just read a few pages from the beginning, and see if you like it.

Here's the thing about mushies, it is an emotional fucking ride. Last time I tripped at a party and basically just found a couch and a blanket in the basement of the house and had a cry for like 1.5 hrs.

Get your fucking shit together m8. You need discipline in your life, but mostly you need to get the fuck out of your comfort-zone and get put in a situation you have no control over.

The military is for faggots and pussys but you seem to be a good mix of both so i'd actually recommend that

Watch Jordan B. Peterson.

CLEAN YOUR ROOM! Seriously, the first step to taking control of your life is to take responsibility of your surroundings. And then to gradually take on more responsibility until you're drowning in it.

Do this:
selfauthoring.com/

If you don't have money, then it basically works like this:
Future Authoring:
Write down your ideal life. I mean absolutely perfect. Then write down everything you'd have to do to get there.

Write down your worst case scenario, what you fear most your life will turn out to be in the worst case scenario. Then write down everything you'd have to do to get there.

Now you know where you need to go, you know how to get there, you know what not to do and you know what will happen if you don't do what you're supposed to.


Past Authoring:

Divide your life in 6-8 key stages. Then take each stage and divide each stage in 5 or so key events.
For each event write down what happened.
Then write down why each event happened.
Then write down how each event contributed to making you who you are today. Your faults and your virtues etc.

Now you know what happened, you know why and you know what it did to you. This will help clear up anxiety about the past and help you avoid mistakes in the future.

I haven't looked at present authoring, so I can't give you advice, but those two should be sufficient to get you on the right path.

Sorry about the spacing. I wrote it down on word first, and it looked better.

Not OP, just wondering have you actually paid for this authoring stuff? How does the pay method compare to just doing it yourself for free?

I did pay, and I definitely think it's worth it, but the difference between the paid version and what I outlined isn't too big.
The paid version is more organised and you get more information, but doing it yourself for free will still give you the essence of what the program is trying to accomplish.
Jordan B. Peterson, has a couple of videos up on his channel where he describes the methodology a lot better than I do:
youtube.com/watch?v=qa9u5t3C0AI


If you want a more relaxed explanation (I prefer them), then here he is describing it to Joe Rogan: youtube.com/watch?v=RoGdMpdZXzs
(He's very long winded)

If you want a purpose/you need some direction then here: youtube.com/watch?v=XbOeO_frzvg
It helped me (not a millenial) so I'm sure it will help the older anons here.

Good luck man!

> it can really help to just clean your fucking life up.
agree

t. /r/the_donald

youre right, but easier said than done

projecting much? i am very secure in my beliefs and understanding of the world (probably too much), enough so that i hold them above self-love

the only problem is getting myself to not be a dumbshit and back on what i know to be right and good which is easier said than done

> Talk big for doing your reps, but next week, or maybe next month you'll still be miserable and repeat this cycle of self loathing which will lead to more counterproductive behavior.
fuck i hope so badly this doesn't happen

atrocious. how about you study something real and true like uhh Christianity

same

youre a piece of shit

best post in the thread that verse was very helpful, thanks

good thoughts & good luck

agree

lmao true

> Past authoring
> JB Peterson
literally what the fuck? what are you talking about you sound like some crystal healing chakra astral projection chinese medicine faggot, could not make it more than 2 sentences into your post. get a fucking grip man

I'll explain it in a non-culty way. I'm sorry I get a little excited when it comes to this shit.

Basically you need to figure out why you are who you are, where and who you want to be, and what you need to avoid to get there.

That's it. All the program does is give a little guidance so the user can figure these things out, and it does so via writing prompts. No meditation or exploring the dream world or any of that. Just writing about your life.

In the universities that it has been tried it has dramatically reduced the dropout rate and significantly raised the GPA.

JBP is one of the lead designers and has a youtube channel that has attained a bit of fame due to a controversy over freedom of expression in the university where he lectures.

Hope that's a bit better.

Everyone goes through this to some extent. You’re young, your parents probably did too much for you and now you don’t know how to manage anything. The trick is to start small and bring (and maintain) some order to some corner of your life and slowly expand from there.

Clean your goddamn room, user.

am the op btw.

forgot to add,

my issue with stoicism is that it glorifies self too much in its own glib, ascetic-except-not-really utilitarian way. never met anyone stoic who wasnt a complete pain in the ass to be around

Thanks for the info man, appreciated!

Toppest of all known keks

>unironically blasting Jordan Peterson
Wew lad. Disregard any further posts

Me exactly. How do I dig myself out of this pit. Please respond

There's no magic image/book/song that's going to fix your life for you. That stuff is there for you to take in and motivate you to do better, but you have to WANT to improve yourself in the first place. The fuel can't burn if there's no fire. If you're a man your conscience crushing you is the only thing that will stimulate you to get you to move. If not, well, natural selection is there for a reason.

Stop being a fucking retarded bitch. One of reasons why I hate SJWs so much is that they constantly cry about feelings. Shut up, being nice never helps someone that doesn't truly want it. Which is exactly your problem; You don't WANT it. Deep down you're complacent with your life because you have no responsibilities.

tldr stop being a sadcunt

stop consuming dairy (srs)

this post is me, and how the fuck did u guess my fetish, i dont like my giantesses hairy tho.

Dude that sounds horrible. You must change your ways. As you to how, I'm not sure. My gf leaving me and being expelled from uni was the kick up the arse I needed.

If you can help it, don't wait until it's too late and you've fucked something up.

You haven't posted many details about you, so I'll make a few assumptions.

First of all, stop being so harsh on yourself. It is good that you've realized you're not happy, but being so judgemental with yourself will only make you even sadder/depressed — which makes it even harder for you to take action.

Give yourself some slack. So what, you've made some mistakes, everybody fucks up in life. Just shrug it off, stop judging yourself so hard, and take action to change.

Now, the assumptions part. You don't look like you leave your house often, so you could be having a vitamin D deficiency. Do some blood work and then take supplements if it's really low. Seriously, it might look silly but vitamin D plays a big part on your mood/energy levels. Changing your mindset is great, but doing so is harder when you're physically deprived.

Now, you also look like you're depressed, you're behaving like me a few years ago and I had a mild case of depression. Start doing therapy — having someone to talk to will do wonders for your mood.

Also, do your best to fix your sleep schedule. This also plays a huge part on your energy/mood levels. It's just impossible to have the motivation to act if you're not resting properly.

Overall buddy, don't be too harsh on yourself. You've acknowledged you're making mistakes, but calling yourself "horrible waste" will only wreck your mood, making it tougher for you to fix your life. Take a deep breath, follow the steps above, and strive to always be the best version of you.

And stop being mean to your parents, faggot. Go give them a hug right fuckking now.

Been here but took a few more doses of LSD then typical... Like 4 pieces and a gel.

I ended up leaving my body. I don't know anyone irl that I can share that with. They'd lock me up.

I read a book called the 4 hour work week. The best tool I pulled from it was this. They call it lifestyle design however and it's similar you write 5 of what you want to do, who you want to be, what you want. Break down the monthly goals to get there and proceed.

Literally clean your room. Clean it, keep it clean, try cleaning something else. When your apartment is clean, clean up your diet. Then your sleeping patterns. Get some exercise, etc.

First of all, you are not the only one. I feel the exact same way and despite being enrolled at uni and attending parties and socializing on the regular and therefore seeming like a complete normie I'm a mess inside.

I feel like I have clear borderline personality disorder traits in my behavior and I have the genetic burden of the disorder running in my family. I kinda wanna go talk to a psychiatrist about it, but the thing is that I live and study abroad so it's kinda off the cards. I also don't want to take the meds usually used to treat these things because of the weight gain side effect. If I was to gain anymore weight, there's no drugs to cut off the pain that would cause me.

My moods fluctuates all the time as well as my self-image. I workout, put tons of effort in my looks, clothes and such but I'm still insecure af. Smallest piece of criticism or rejection throws me off the rails so to speak and I feel utterly worthless and bad at everything. I'm also convinced that people hate me and thinks I'm weird and that they are against me. To some extent at least it actually is the case.

I struggle with my studies and I basically do zero work. I spend my days online as I've done for years. I have very little trust in myself, in my capabilities and I feel lonely and isolated despite having people around to talk with.

I hate uni and I'd be much more happy with a regular job, stable financial situation and such.

Wtf I don't remember posting this

Seriously tho, this is where I'm at almost exactly right now. I had no idea those were symptoms of borderline personality; I only know bpd through its reputation for making people act self-destructive and push people out their lives, but I'm outwardly pretty placid (people think I drink too much, but I don't have any other patterns of extreme behaviour)

Is bpd worth looking into?

I don't know. I match all of the symptoms (black and white thinking, fluctuating self-image and self-esteem, issues with binge eating, spending and such) and the only thingy in the diagnosis does not match me is aggressive outbursts or such aggressive behavior in general.

I'd be interested to medicate my changing moods with some mood stabilizer but all of the common ones cause bad side effects, one being rapid weight gain. My self-esteem is so tied to my looks that if I was to get fatty I'd KMS right away. So I don't know man.

I guess it helps to know about the disorder and symptoms and be aware of the things related. Knowledge is power and it has helped me to deal with my issues a lot I'd say.

Might one day invest in consulting an actual psychiatrist and see what he thinks though. Worth a shot.

Meditating can solve most peoples problems everywhere, not just Veeky Forums. But yeah it's extremely boring and hard for a long time. But then it gets better and better and extremely enjoyable.

Look up Jordan B Peterson on youtube, thank me later.

>"how do I stop being a piece of shit p-pls help"
>stop being a piece of shit
>"reeeeeeee how dare you suggest I change or think about anything I don't already like?!"

Wow I wonder where your trouble is stemming from

An Hero before it gets any worse.

live in the woods for a day

then do two days

then 3

then do a week

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