Top civilizations excluding europeans

>500 years since they went to shit after the dismantling of the treasure fleet.
Meme history.

The treasure fleet was a purpose built expedition designed primarily to dazzle Spice Route states into trading with China, largely because the destruction of Mongol khanates and Timur made the Silk Road into a shithole. It was a fleet composed of party-palace cargo ships and a navy to escort it.

After 7 fucking voyages of that expensive floating diplomatic glam tour, it done its job, and the fuckers needed money to fight the new Mongols, so the treasure ships were dismantled and the navy ships retasked back to their home garrisons.

t. Pedro

1)Mongols
2) Maya
3) Inca

>Egypt
>Akkad
>Amurru
>Carthage
>India
>China

K they still have fallen to shit since then sooooo

Do you mean Western or European in general? If so, then why name some by race (Persian, Indian) and others by ethnicity (Chinese) ?

>China

>eating dogs, cats, and insects
>literally believed the Earth was flat until the 16th century
>ugliest language on Earth bar none
>no concept of desserts or sweets
>unable to use glass (no windows, glass cups, etc)

They dismantled it bc they were afraid of the merchant class becoming wealthy enough to overtake the political class.

Sure what you are spewing was the political classes excuse. The greatest way to get the country to go along with something that's bad for them is to tell them it's in the best interest of natl security. That doesn't mean you have to believe them

>mongols
>top civilization
Underage is not allowed to post on this weebsite.

Nope, they just got gradually stagnated after 16th century, they only totally went to shit at 19th century.

>no Mayans

Comparatively speaking no. Out of the four great civilizations China is the only one that remains.

Greece got absorbed into Rome which fell to Germanic and later Turkish barbarians.

Persia was reborn under Islam.

India is the world's biggest shithole.

The only constant out of all of these is China which diminished for a short while of time but never disappeared.

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Stagnation began around the late 18th century, no way did it begin from the 1500s.

>eating dogs, cats, and insects
Nothing wrong with it.
>>literally believed the Earth was flat until the 16th century
So do most peoples on Earth.
>>ugliest language on Earth bar none
Purely subjective. I think it's more beautiful than English.
>>no concept of desserts or sweets
Wrong. It's called "tian diang".
>>unable to use glass (no windows, glass cups, etc
Yes, they had and used glass.

All in all, considering China can easily cause so much butthurt to Western honkies, I'll definitely put them on top list.

Yes.

no u

>So does most people on earth

Phoenicians and Greeks had deduced that the Earth was a globe by the 5th century B.C. Indians, Mesopotamians, and Egyptians also figured out that the Earth was not flat but in fact a globe within the next century or two.

Chinese kept believing that the Earth was a flat square until the Catholic Jesuits showed them otherwise in the 16th century AD.

>Purely subjective. I think it's more beautiful than English.

"ching chong ling long ting tong?"
The Chinese language is the butt of jokes around the world, not just in America. Arabs, Africans, Persians, Indians, Japanese - all of them can agree Chinese sounds like a hilarious/ugly language.

>Wrong. It's called "tian diang".

Nope. Compare the desserts from Europe, the Middle East, or India (where the first sweets actually came from - the Pajeets were the first to crystalize sugar and make sweets from it) to the shit they peddle in China.

>Yes, they had and used glass.

Why do chinks make windows out of paper? Because they don't know jack shit about glassworking unlike the rest of the world. Europeans had to teach them.

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What an immature post

Communism did more to destroy Chinese "civilization" than the Turks or Germans could ever have done to Greece/Rome.

Face it, China is a dead soulless husk of whatever it was 2000 years ago. Today it's just a post-Communist Maoist shithole with no real remaining culture or civilization, just aping the West and their products, technology, society, customs, etc.

I think that you really don't know anything about China and you're just booty blasted because a chinaman diddled you when you were a little kid. Seems like you deserved it

>ugliest language on Earth bar none
Nah, the worst I've heard so far is Cambodian:

VOA Khmer News 24 March 2018 - Morning - youtube.com/watch?v=0Gzwtv4ymhI

Keep in mind that being news, that would be the prestige dialect they're speaking, so the nicest.

>youtube.com/watch?v=0Gzwtv4ymhI

I dunno, sounds pretty cool to me. Basically all languages sound good if said sweetly imo.

no greeks remain to this day spreading all of her knoloadge to rome then to western europe and finally all over the world
Greek civilization and their teaching is more alive than ever,china has been a dead end by a long time

>he says when china was one of the most advanced civilizations

like you have been for mongols and asian tribes ridiculous

Maya
Inca
China

But the Greeks themselves have been finished. Just because they had some LARPers doesn't mean they're alive today.

Western Europe right now or even a thousand years ago is still vastly different to Rome.

>this meme again

Lmao no

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Funny how Japan is a first world democratic republic while China is a third world India-tier shithole

>user in charge of reading comprehension

Cause, you know, they got America gibs and industrialized first. Give em 10 years and they'll surpass America. Some of their tech is even better than the US now

Nowhere close. India is where China was ten years ago. Right now it's at the same level of Russia and rapidly increasing.

>America gibs
Are you retarded? Japan was the first non-European nation to industrialize on its own. They built a large modern mechanized army with aircraft carriers, tanks, planes, etc. when Chinese peasants were still grubbing around in the dirt. They literally carved out an empire in East Asian and singlehandedly took on the the USA, Russia, the UK, Australia, NZ, and other colonial powers in East Asia and SE Asia while China was getting bumfucked by civil war and the West. Sure they received US aid to rebuild after the war, but they were already pretty much on equal standing with the US or any European power before the war.

>equal standing
lmao getting wrecked by russia and the u.s. does not equate to being western european tier. who cares if they beat up a bunch of sea monkeys?

>hurr I'm pretending to be retarded
Japanese industry in WW2 paled in comparison to Euro/American. They only did so well because they were fighting non industrialized powers. Japanese society only became developed after WW2 when the Americans subsidized them with gibs

genetically they are the same as ancient greeks ,like china right now is the only thing that have in common with yours ancestors all your culture and history is dead and replaced by western consumerism ,and comunism values

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even japan is more alive than chinese history and culture

eeeh, I don't know about Cambodian but I fucking hate the way they speak Japanese on the news, literally every other form is better including trashy street slang.

>Japan was the first non-European nation to industrialize on its own. They built a large modern mechanized army with aircraft carriers, tanks, planes, etc.
That's because the plan to colonize them by Britain was thwarted by the Opium Wars and later Sepoy rebellion. Credit is due since they did it ridiculously quick but it was only by luck.
>and singlehandedly took on the the USA, Russia, the UK, Australia, NZ, and other colonial powers in East Asia and SE Asia
Good for them.
>while China was getting bumfucked by civil war and the West
The Opium War was a century ago
>Sure they received US aid to rebuild after the war, but they were already pretty much on equal standing with the US or any European power before the war.
That's nice but having a brief period of glory and then occupied by America for a century isn't what I call grand.

Japan has always been a pimple. An ugly flea buzzing around China that nobody knew and cared about for most of it's existence which is why the only reason they managed to escape from plagues that haunted the Eurasian peninsula.

There's nothing exceptional about them and the world would have been done a favor if the Soviets were allowed to rape and pillage it to the ground like they were planning.

1. China
2. Arabs/muslim dyansties
3. Central Mesoamerican superpowers (Teotihaucan, Toltecs, Aztecs)

3 might seem like cheating, but each rose out of the ashes of the last around the same geographic area and inherited the former's culture in many ways, and formed a similar stablizing, dominnant rrole in mesoamerican politics. I don't see how iit's any less fair to group them together then it is to group the seperate chinese states or muslim dyansties/sultnates together

The Aztecs and their predecessors were way more impressive then the Maya. I'd argue over the Inca too, though that's somewhat debatable.

>They only did so well because they were fighting non industrialized powers
But that's wrong:
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_Indies_campaign

>I don't see how iit's any less fair to group them together then it is to group the seperate chinese states or muslim dyansties/sultnates together
But that is wrong. Islamic dynasties ran from Europe to India, each vastly different then the last depending on the geographic region.

Are you dense?
They were halfway around the world.
Not just that the Netherlands were already invaded by the Germans a year earlier.
Are you surprised the Nips stole candy from a baby?
Maybe that's why you're autistically sinophobic you're actually a Jap

>They only did so well because they were fighting non industrialized powers.
So like the British Empire then?

You're talking to a different poster and that doesn't change anything. Japan was a real power in its prime.

Who said they weren't?
I'm saying technologically they we're far behind the Western Powers.
The only reason they were a power in the pacific was the longer supply lines the Euros had to deal with and everyone else being preoccupied by the Germans not because their industry was decent.

This. Japan was further behind europe at the time before it modernized then mesoamerica was at the time of contact