Why have International organisations completely failed to bring peace and prosperity to the world since the end of WW2?
I mean the UN is basically useless and has stood by through the Rwanda Genocide, Armenian Genocide plus the obvious Iraq and Afghanistan wars. But why?
America was still trying to recover the dead from Black Hawk Down when Rwanda kicked off. And unlike today, Black Hawk Down wasn't seen as the glorious last stand as portrayed in the movie. It was seen as a national embarrassment.
>Armenian Genocide
Literally happened 30 years before the UN was founded you fuckwit
>Iraq and Afghanistan wars
Iraq and Afghanistan were meant to be an American show. No reason to send Pakis and Malays when the US is already there.
>UN does nuffin. WTF why is the UN so useless, BAKA. >UN does something. IMPERIALISM! MUH SOVEREIGNITY! YOU CAN'T DO THIS MUH COUNTRY HAS RIGHTS! YOU'RE JUST NEW WHITE IMPERIALISTS!!! GLOBALIST SHILLS!!!
The UN has no independent power to leverage nations. The U.N. is merely a forum for great powers to speak openly, if the great powers see it as useless then it is useless.
>Why have International organisations completely failed to bring peace and prosperity to the world since the end of WW2?
Because they were never meant to.
Why do you think the five permanent members of the UN Security Council get veto power over everyone else? Because the UN exists for the top five to bully the rest around.
>the average homicide rate in the U.S. is 4.9 per 100,000 >the worldwide battle death rate is 1.4 per 100,000 >you're more likely to die living in the U.S. than you are to die in warfare worldwide holy kek
It's not really meant to bring world peace so much as its meant to prevent another total global war between the world powers by being a check to Soviet aggression. Wars between two worthless African nations had no impact on the balance of power between the east and west so we stayed out.
James Cook
100% this, it was explicitly designed to prevent WW3 breaking out and so far that didn't happen.
Brandon Murphy
I'm fairly certain America/Russia/China would be quite capable of bullying the rest of the world regardless of the UN existing
Ian Howard
>more likely to be murdered than killed in a war Not a surprise really since there are no real wars going on.
Sebastian Morris
Furthermore when we do get involved in the petty squabbles of some irrelevant nation it's never for altruistic reasons. It's to protect the balance of power or maintain the status quo. We didn't get involved in Korea because we truly cared about the Koreans but because we couldn't let the commies tip the balance of power in this Pacific to their favor. We didn't care about Korea because it was in itself strategically important but because if we didn't rise to the challenge issued by the communist the balance of power in Asia MIGHT be tipped irrevocably in the communist favor but we couldn't just outright declare open war on communism without risking ww3. This is how we justified entry into the Korean War despite it technically being a civil war and It has shaped how we see every engagement since. We don't want to outright attack our true enemy with an outright total war because that guarantees mutual destruction, the only option left is limited war with limited objectives against our enemies satellites and when you really boil it down this is the real reason for all our modern wars.
Eli James
UN cannot make peace, only to keep it after the warring parts reach a ceasefire or agreement
Jonathan Watson
This.
Christian White
>African savages slaughter bazillions >UN does nuffin. >Americans have the 2nd Amendment >UN does something.
The UN is a mostly useless extra level of government that simply siphons off more tax dollars that ends up in the pockets of corrupt government officials and corporatists.
>Americans have the 2nd Amendment >UN does something. Literally what the fuck are you talking about.
Ryan Gomez
Correcting some third world place fuckups takes a lot more money and grunts than you might think. We're also kinda shit at it, even when we put in the ressources
Kevin Roberts
Don't you remember when the UN staged a coup and forced the Bill of Rights to be rewritten? It happened last week.
Leo Rodriguez
He's a fudd.
He literally thinks the UN has this ebil globalist army come to take his guns away when he's more likely to die being shot by either a drugged up hoodrat or an angry white boy.
Under the guise of a proposed global "Small Arms Treaty" premised to fight "terrorism", "insurgency" and "international crime syndicates" you can be quite certain that an even more insidious threat is being targeted - our Constitutional right for law-abiding citizens to own and bear arms.
While the terms have yet to be made public, if passed by the U.N. and ratified by our Senate, it will almost certainly force the U.S. to: 1. Enact tougher licensing requirements, creating additional bureaucratic red tape for legal firearms ownership. 2. Confiscate and destroy all "unauthorized" civilian firearms (exempting those owned by our government of course). 3. Ban the trade, sale and private ownership of all semi-automatic weapons (any that have magazines even though they still operate in the same one trigger pull - one single "bang" manner as revolvers, a simple fact the anti-gun media never seem to grasp). 4. Create an international gun registry, clearly setting the stage for full-scale gun confiscation. 5. In short, overriding our national sovereignty, and in the process, providing license for the federal government to assert preemptive powers over state regulatory powers guaranteed by the Tenth Amendment in addition to our Second Amendment rights.
Angel Thomas
>Why have International organisations completely failed to bring peace and prosperity to the world since the end of WW2? The world is way more prosperous and more peaceful than 70 years ago you asshat. The UN is weak and generally controlled by the security council members' interests, but it's pretty ridiculous to claim that we're worse off than we were. The best argument you could make is that international organizations see bringing peace and prosperity to the world as a secondary objective to their main pursuit of furthering the interests of their sponsor countries, but that is a given and you should feel silly for thinking otherwise.
Brayden Hernandez
>He's a fudd. Funny how this word assumes opposite meanings from one board to another.
Samuel Ross
>Opinion piece Off to a great start. >Small Arms Treaty. Let's google that shall we?
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Trade_Treaty >The Arms Trade Treaty (ATT) is a multilateral treaty that regulates the international trade in conventional weapons. It entered into force on 24 December 2014.[1] Ninety-four states have ratified the treaty, and a further 41 states have signed but not ratified it. >The ATT is an attempt to regulate the international trade of conventional weapons for the purpose of contributing to international and regional peace; reducing human suffering; and promoting co-operation, transparency, and responsible action by and among states. >international trade >of fire arms.
It absolutely has nothing to do with your stupid second amendment.
It's almost like the UN has no power and America and Israel are the powers who really shake things up.
Noah Allen
>>international trade >>of fire arms.
Which include civilian arms, which is why the NRA got itself registered as a UN Non-Governmental Organization; too keep an eye on these assholes.
"One of the largest sources of civil opposition to the ATT has come from the Institute for Legislative Action (ILA), which is the lobbying arm of the NRA. In July 2012, ILA stated that:
Anti-gun treaty proponents continue to mislead the public, claiming the treaty would have no impact on American gun owners. That's a bald-faced lie. For example, the most recent draft treaty includes export/import controls that would require officials in an importing country to collect information on the "end user" of a firearm, keep the information for 20 years, and provide the information to the country from which the gun was exported. In other words, if you bought a Beretta Shotgun, you would be an "end user" and the U.S. government would have to keep a record of you and notify the Italian government about your purchase. That is gun registration. If the U.S. refuses to implement this data collection on law-abiding American gun owners, other nations might be required to ban the export of firearms to the U.S."
On the other hand the US is already so protectionist where the arms industry is concerned that you're almost invariably gonna buy a Tennessee built Beretta anyway, and then complain that it's shit because it's made by niggers and rednecks with second rate parts rather than being a product of the main factory in Italy. Same as with german weapons, italian and german cars, etc.
Daniel Carter
But don't you rednecks like "HURDURR BUILD IN AMERICA" anyway?
Well then, this treaty protects your local industries. Win/Win.
Anthony Sanders
>protectionist where the arms industry is concerned
This UN proposal has nothing to do with trade protectionism, it wouldn't matter where the guns were made, they'd ALL be registered and eventually seized.
Robert Williams
>he doesn't want sweet Beretta shotguns
You are a man of no taste.
Christopher Russell
>Why have International organisations completely failed to bring peace and prosperity to the world since the end of WW2? Because they exist to make sure that those states in power stay in power and that the rich from said states maintain their oligarchic control.
Levi Cooper
The UN is nothing more than a giant shrine to managerialism.
Anthony Ortiz
Cuckold, is that you?
Cameron Cox
You think all registered cars will be seized?
Carson Wood
But Duterte is based though.
Hunter Murphy
Because international peace was never the goal, NATO was designed to secure the imperial interests of the member states, and the UN is gimped by design.
Jason Myers
The UN makes a good rubber stamp to give it an air of legitimacy though.
Jesus Christ not this shit again.
Look, the Small Arms Treaty explicitly states it only applies to government-to-government transfers of weapons (i.e. United States arms sales to Israel). It in no way applies to civilian owned firearms.
Even if it did, it wouldn't fucking matter because arms control treaties are all fucking worthless anyway.