Cromwell

Did he really ban dancing halls, and Christmas, and laughing on the street? Sounds like the kind of outrageous things they would say to libel someone.

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the guy was from one branch of freemasonry that tried to combine Catharism with Secularism. It's quite obvious he would try to create a super-estate to ban alcohol, party and dance halls. At the same time we can't forget the Scotish masons wanted to get rid of him because they believed in full open society where everyone is their own master and laws shouldn't limit citizens but instead protect and harmonize the rights of all citizens so they can do whatever they want
The puritans saw Christmas as a pagan festival or at the very least like the Cathars they thought Christ wasn't God and therefore people shouldn't celebrate the birth of a regular man

Where are you getting that he was a freemason from?

This entire post is complete bullshit.

I've never heard the laughing in the streets one but the others are true.
Its important to put what he did in the context of Puritanism / Independence and in the general mood of the times. Remember that just 4 years before Cromwell becoming Lord Protector the English killed their king. Add this with revolutionary milieu from groups like the Levellers, the increased radical religious preaching that the rise of Puritainism and removal of restrictions on the free press during the war helping it, the world truly did seem like it was turning upside down. Many people thought the end days were very much upon them. For example, the Fifth Monarchy Men or Fifth Monarchists thought that the Second Coming of Christ was imminent after the destruction of the Popish and Satanic monarchy of England. Many, including Cromwell thought that it was time to purify England before the Second Coming was upon them. Thus for example the creation of the Nominated Assembly after the Dismissal of the Rump Parliament. The Nominated Assembly or "Assembly of Saints" was made up of hand picked godly men to guide the Commonwealth through these religiously significant times. The Major Generals were tasked with taking these godly reforms, like banning Christmas (usually an excuse to get drunk and party at the time) into the counties all in attempts to purify the nation for a probable Second Coming or at least a new era of religiosity and harmony free from the corrupting influence of Bishops, the established church and the monarchy

tl;dr Puritians want to purify nation from sin, removal of the old order a great time to do it, others see the end times upon them also support religious purification through banning plays, dancing, sports and christmas

He didn't. It was the mayor-generals. Cromwell reopened them after firing them.

Was Cromwell radical among puritans?

Damn he looks kinda cute as a young boy

No, Cromwell was the moderating force in the reign of Parliament. He was a puritan, no doubt, but he was skeptical of trying to enforce many of the new morality laws, and ultimately saw many of them undone.His role in the hardcore puritan gang running London is vastly overstated.

why

He just looks so sweet
I'll be right back. Just going to masturbate to young cromwell

No, he in particular did not. He was, in terms of political action, a religious moderate, advocating for a degree of toleration. However, he himself was a puritan who believed in godly reformation. When he appointed the Major-Generals to govern the country, therefore, he allowed them to pursue such bans. He himself did not act in support of banning christmas or anything of the like.

Didn't he secretly partake in activities that were made illegal like smoking?

To a certain extent.
This is stretching my memory somewhat, but the laughing is mere libel, the others are at least partly true.
First of all, one should remember that Cromwell was responsible for broad policy, whilst the Major-Generals implemented the policies. There was a huge difference between regions as some MGs believed restricting liberties would lead to an insurrection, others let their religion lead the way.
The main thrust of many of the puritanical laws were practical measures in Christian clothing. Royalist agitators used racing events, bear baiting and taverns to conduct meetings andplot against the protectorate. The Protectorate was chronically short of resources, and to monitor every social event was impossible. It was much easier to slap down blanket bans, which also reassured the Independent evangelists in London.

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Cromwell did nothing wrong.

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The only wrong thing he did was appointing Richard to succeed him. Anybody else and the Protectorate would have survived

>HIIISTORIAS HORRIIIIIIBLEEEEEEEEEEES

Indeed.
Richard "Tumbledown Dick" Cromwell
Richard "Queen Dick" Cromwell
Awful.

Other fun facts, they dug up his body and put his decaying head on a hike and he could use his penis as a raft.

Additional question: why did he assume a position that was pretty much the same as that of a King, but not go so far as to actually declare himself King?

Cromwell did not become Lord Protector out of raw ambition. In fact, as far as king-killing usurpers go, his ambition by all accounts seems to be pretty in check. He was surrounded by people desperately begging him to become king, while he tried one type of government after another trying to find one that was stable and in line with the principles of the cause. He seemed like he tried everything to *not* become quasi-king. But ultimately he assumed more and more control as the British government just could not function without a king-like executive, it became clear. And this lack of ambition is most clear when he does turn down the crown. People wanted him to, a major faction (though iirc, not quite a majority) of Parliament were acting as if Cromwell becoming king was inevitable, and they supported his claim far more than he did. But in the end, (after secluding himself in prayer), he opted not to become Oliver I.

Of course the British Crown proceeded to slander his reputation for centuries, painting him as a bloodthirsty, fanatical usurper that only wanted more power for himself and hijacked a somewhat legitimate cause to do so, (During the French Revolution the Jacobins bought this story and would often accuse each other of being 'Cromwells'). And of course the Irish campaign was blown way out of proportion in regards to the scale, the atrocity, and Cromwell's involvement, so the Irish contributed to the myth as well.

>not being pro-cromwell