Carolingian Empire vs Mali Empire. Who would win?
Carolingian Empire vs Mali Empire. Who would win?
Nicholas Ortiz
Nolan Mitchell
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Grayson Anderson
Mali Empire if fight took place in Africa and if the Carolingians were forced to march for the day and were afflicted with bad logistics.
Carolingians if the fight took place in just about any other scenario.
Tyler Hernandez
>Mali Empire
No such thing
Was more of a confederation uniting a dozen of neolithic mudhut villages
Mason Morgan
Carolingians. They had a greater cavalry core thanks to the climate being able to support more horses. Their massed spears would suffer greatly from poisoned arrows, but it would repel any Malian cavalry. Meanwhile, the thin lines of skirmishers would fall under the hooves of a Carolingian cavalry charge.
Juan Ramirez
Carolingian Empire vs mud huts inhabitated by human sacrificing savages.
Hmmmmm, tough choice
Leo Brooks
Who are the commanders? Martel vs sundiata?
Benjamin Cooper
Didn't the malian army have like 10000 cav at one point?
Grayson Hall
How about Charlemagne vs Mansa Musa.
Easton Carter
It was an alliance of 12 major Mandingo kingdoms under the leadership of Sundiata Keita which grew to become an imperial entity. Africa was well into the Iron Age by then.
Nathan Parker
Neustria alone could muster around 50,000 cavalries.
Angel Jackson
Mansa Musa wasn’t much of a general
Dominic Martin
> Africa was well into the Iron Age by then
You mean the Mali empire was? Most of Africa was still in devoid of any civilization.
Brody Robinson
Well, I heard that Mansa Musa was king when the Mali Empire was at its peak. So any other Mali king should have an inferior military.
David Robinson
> Africa was well into the Iron Age by then.
Only if you count the iron in the blood they spilled in human sacrifices.
Cameron Anderson
> when the Mali Empire was at its peak
>at its peak
What did they do, pile up some stones?
Kevin Bell
Most of sub-sahan africa was iron age by around 500 AD, give or take about 200 years. And agriculture/pastoralism was around even longer.
Thomas Ortiz
I guess this means pic related was ELITE MASTER & COMMANDER then
Ayden Mitchell
Nah. It was used to make hoes, axes, knives, sculptures, spearheads, arrowheads, shovels, etc. You know. Iron Age stuff.
Connor Brown
Its hard to say but probably the Carolingian empire because they had more experience fighting other professional armies from neighbouring kingdoms while most of Mali's enemies were Mossi horsesmen raiders and desert Tuaregs. When Mali did come face to face with another state the Songhai they pretty much got goomba stomped by Sonni Ali.
Christian Evans
i like how noodlefinger jesus blessed all of them with noodlefingers
Nathan Cruz
Carolingian Empire would win unless Mali had a huge advantage, like defending from a superior position or fighting on their home terrain.
Bentley Anderson
>this is what /pol/ actually believes