A place for discussing all things vegan ethics, politics & health
Meat consumption is ruining the environment. - Pollutes rivers - Forests cleared for livestock - Causes soil degradation - Massive inefficiency - Major contributor to global warming.
The most common and well known argument is the argument from marginal cases. Loosely speaking, the argument contends that animals as sentient as retards should have the same moral status
Morality is relative? - Science, logic, mathematics are all based on axioms that are not proven, what is different about morality and moral axioms? Think this argument through before arguing for it, it is not as simple as you think. (most philosophers are moral realists and believe moral propositions can in fact be true)
Meatcucks please realise the difference between normative ethics (what we ought to do) and descriptive ethics (what beliefs do people have). Normative ethics is what is being discussed with regards to veganism and morality.
e.g. - people should not eat animals for x reason (relevant normative claim) - people eat animals for y reason (irrelevant descriptive claim)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism >Five percent (300,000) in Israel said they were vegan in 2014, making it the highest per capita vegan population in the world.
I wonder (((who))) is behind this post...
Robert Edwards
second for eggs
Thomas Phillips
>Meat consumption is ruining the environment. >- Pollutes rivers >- Forests cleared for livestock >- Causes soil degradation >- Massive inefficiency >- Major contributor to global warming. Ahahahahahhaahahhahahhahahahah you think all that isnt caused by mass horticulture too? you guys are honestly deluded. also, vegan ethics? what a joke, why dont you just only eat hunted animals? they have lived the best life possible.
Daily reminder that veganism is pushed by the world elites as a cheaper way to feed their slaves they dont want people eating high quality expensive foods, notice how they also push for eating insects
Juan Sanchez
you're cucked bro
Jordan Edwards
you realise animals are fed by crops we have to grow, right?
Jeremiah Young
Enjoy your transition into womanhood. Hey, like all trannies, at least you don't have prostate cancer to worry about!
>grain fed cattle okay im not denying that is shit but grass fed naturally raised free range cattle is god-tier
Jason Edwards
grass fed is even more inefficient. You need land and water to make grass, it doesn't just magically exist in abundance
Isaac Ramirez
>grass doesn't just exist in abundance wat
>make grass u realize u dont need to farm grass
Jason Flores
you need to clear land and grow grass. Grass is not magically different to other plants. Why do you think cattle is grain-fed? it's because it's more efficient and cheaper
Lincoln Russell
> that picture > a company that is entirely based around protecting animals funded a report that came to the conclusion that eating animals is bad Well gee whiz, I'm shocked. What's next, CNN putting out a report on how bad Trump is?
Leo Powell
>you need to clear land and grow grass no u dont, ever heard of a ranch/cattle station? its just a bunch of wilderness which some guys put some cows on. much less environmentally damaging than crops with all that intensive fertilizing, irrigation, soil depletion etc etc. destroys less land too.
>Grass is not different to other plants wat
>Why do you think cattle is grain-fed? it's because it's more efficient and cheaper whats your point? cows should be eating grain instead of grass?
Juan Wright
Grass fed cattle can actually be very damaging, here in NZ our soil and rivers are getting pretty fucked up by all the cows shitting and pissing nitrates everywhere
Adrian Ward
Vegans are omega tier males
Jaxon Diaz
Vegans think black cocks are magic.
Evan Long
>shitting and pissing nitrates everywhere nitrogen is important for plant growth, you cant really have 'too many nitrates' why are they actually damaging soil? the only thing i can think of is maybe too many cows in a small area compressing the soil or killing off the grass
checked
Ian Parker
Not the soil so much, but once plants have absorbed all the nitrogen the rest of it leaches into rivers and groundwater, where it can cause overgrowth of algae and other problems
Grayson Ramirez
I've been bulking on a vegan diet for a year and It has gone wonderfully. How do i cut as a vegan tho? How do i get e enough proteins in? 1,81cm x 81kg 18%bf Thanks a lot Pic unrelated
Juan Mitchell
>want to go vegan for the animals >was 100% vegan for a few weeks >falling for the soyboy meme and eating red meat by the pound now
Help me brahs will going vegan make me a pre-op?
Is it possible to be vegan and still be a fucking monster who lifts cars?
Is the soyboy estrogen meme true?
Carter Allen
Onions without meat are sub-ogre
Nolan Hill
i whole heartedly agree with veganism but i still consume animal products. am i a psychopath?
Levi Thompson
I need help with vitamin B2, B3 and Vitamin E
How do I getthat without abusing broccoli, mushrooms and spinach(plus fortified milks) every day
Thomas King
protein powder is the easiest. Pea protein or soy being the best due to lysine content (both legume based proteins)
Gavin Rivera
no. I've been drinking a gallon of soylent a week and my lifts have skyrocketed. I suggest yo do too
Camden Stewart
REEEEEEEEEEE Stop raping bees
Joshua Perez
i'm scared of the soy meme can I just go with almond milk
Hudson Jones
Sure, soy has more protein though, 9g protein/big glass vs 3 in almond. Don't fall for the meme.
Dominic Thompson
bump
James Baker
Do any of you eat vegan 'meat'? I only eat it since some of it can replicate the taste of meat pretty much to a T. I've yet to find a good replica for pork and steak though. Any recs? Maybe even something I can make myself to replicate the flavor?
Landon Reed
Vegans are people who think they’re better than others because of what they eat.
Logan Reyes
Thanks a lot, have a good day and a good workout!
Anthony Lee
no its not, do some research. It isnt hard
Liam Torres
it is true that they are better
Parker Moore
Avoid high lectin foods such as corn, potatoes, tomatoes, peanuts, beans and soy.
Eat more meat and vegetables.
Eat as much sugar and pies as you want.
Samuel Barnes
dont listen to this retard and ur good
Zachary Cox
Fuck off shill. The truth is out and you faggots are getting the gas soon enough if you don't gas yourselves.
;)
Dylan White
This
Chase Powell
Not fitness related
Mods
Matthew Sanchez
What are some high-lipid vegan foods? I need to feel satiated bros.
>Appeal to nature >e.g. meat is natural and therefore ethical >time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/ >livescience.com/23671-eating-meat-made-us-human.html >livescience.com/24875-meat-human-brain.html >thefreelibrary.com/Meat in the human diet: an anthropological perspective-a0169311689 >People who read books know a fact that vegetarians do not- that at one point in history, the Earth's total population of humans dropped to between 5,000 and 10,000 individuals, due to the eruption of Mt. Toba in Sumatra, which killed off most of the available plant and animal life on Earth in 71,000 BC. During this period of time, humans were confined to an >extraordinarily small area of Africa that escaped glaciation, where they subsisted on a diet that was "approximately 50-70% meat and 50-30% plants, respectively." This diet was necessitated by the die-off of plants and animals, and the lack of a varied diet that could have been otherwise obtained though plant gathering. It was at this time that the Neanderthal diet came to consist of naught but meat, due to the complete lack of availability of edible vegetation, which likely lasted for at least 1000 years.(Plants/climate)
Why are meat eaters so insecure that they come into this thread to shitpost? They even create a vegan hate thread. Are meat eaters mentally ill and are obsessed with vegans? I can't find the image but it says "oh no, I came into a thread that would upset me." That's how meat eaters look like posting in this thread. t. Vegetarian
Samuel Rogers
Why are vegans so insecure they have to start a vegan thread on a Bolivian bot fly breeding forum? And why are they surprised non-vegans are posting?
Sebastian Edwards
posting in a troll thread! Reminder all here are trolling others or trolling themselves!
Julian Martin
How is that a response to his calling out a fallacy? You're only reinforcing the fallacy.
Jordan Turner
>why are they surprised non-vegans are posting? Why would non vegans go into a vegan thread? To get upset? Also why are there a ton of threads about getting gf and other nonfitness topics? Vegan is related to fitness the same way the onion, milk and other diet threads
Dominic Stewart
because you're a bunch of easily agitated snowflakes whose ass pain makes for quality entertainment. dance, monkey, dance.
Carson Cooper
>doesn't know what "fallacy" means
Ryder Baker
Eat meat or you are a cuck
It’s sinple
Wyatt Lee
soy and high carb/fat - low protein diet is fucking up your gains tho
Samuel Hall
What's a good source of vegan protein what won't give me the shits?
Not trolling here but I want to cut down the extra meat I eat just for the sake of meeting my protein quota to somthing vegan maybe.
So besides some sort of vegan shake what whole food should I eat to get about 60g more protein i
Sebastian Peterson
objectively wrong
Connor Foster
beef.
cows are vegans.
Isaiah Moore
Just your daily reminder that eating meat is not immoral.
