What Nietzche actually said

Bidwell
Bidwell

What Nietzche actually said:
"God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"

What atheists hear
"God is ded lmao."

Why are atheists so retarded?

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Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Cuz atheists are usually 14 years old or Ricky Gervais

SniperWish
SniperWish

implying anybody has any clue wtf Nietzsche was on about

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LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

The irony being that they are exactly the people who have to suffer most from the death of god. Quite poetic.

Inmate
Inmate

edgy teenagers and deluded atheists love Nietzsche while not giving a single shit about at least one different philosopher
its kinda sad

DeathDog
DeathDog

And Dostojewski because they heard about his ubermentsch motive
Anyway i love both of them but i can agree with your sentence

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JunkTop
JunkTop

You must cite an entire paragraph of text! XD
What the fuck? Are you retarded or what? His full quote doesn't even contradicts the short iconic statement.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

He thinks Nietzsche is sad or regretful about god "dying"
nice reading comprehension
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Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The more popular he is, the more misinterpreted he gets by the masses. Stop mentioning his name. Elitism saves.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Not him personally, but he was one in a billion. He's lamenting the masses, who just a few decades later would face the consequences of god's death.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Only elites wont change the world
Welcome to the world after french revolution
Only masses can do something

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

This

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

The sad realisation is that God is really dead and while the atheist will accept that in the sheer absurd nihilism of meaningless existence and theist will try to worship the corpse with his hollow rituals and pointless cargo cult lip service, there no one remains who could restore the glory of God once again.

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BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

See this

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

The masses are located and placed in a system that you could be compared to the allegory of the cave. People do not know, let alone having access to information and other things that could help them compete with the elite. Schools, books, universities and free information are self sustaining and deceptive systems. Or how N. would say: A master wouldn't teach his slaves how to rule

MPmaster
MPmaster

I can understand that masses are dumb
But without them we will not change the world
Maybe I'm in trouble with my individualism but it's hard to me
I think that real Ubermenstch would rather save the world and other people than doing nothing and masturbating to himself how great he isn't
You may be great but if anyone wont understand you you will be always be average person

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5mileys
5mileys

So... What exactly his stance? Is he an atheist? Theist? Or you he just wrote a bunch of pretentious nonsense to trigger normies and you can swing his words either way?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Probably at Ecce Homo he said that atheims comes to him naturally
May be bad translation dont have book right now to check

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Why discuss his thoughts when you cannot even spell his name correctly?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Is he an atheist? Theist?

That's not the question. Dumb fucking idiots always concerned with the material. The issue is one of morality. Morality has to be based on something and in the west it was based on absolute truths of Christianity.

Because the Enlightenment and the scientific revolution shattered the veil of absolute Christian truth, something had to replace it. Nietzsche himself was very critical of the pillars of Christianity and viewed it as slave morality, whereas he proposed a master morality based on strength and glory and conquest of the self.

The problem with his morality is that it only works for a very small minority of people. The masses need slave morality and so far they have not been given a new one. In the absence of morality you have the world wars and the decadence that followed

King_Martha
King_Martha

nietzsche said we should move beyond master and slave morality. which would one day make the ubermensche

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

In the absence of morality you have the world wars and the decadence that followed.
It isn't like there were no wars or decadence before the enlightenment. Technological advancements just made wars more deadly and decadence more decadent.

massdebater
massdebater

One of the best Nietzsche inrepretation i ever heard
*clap clap* user
(no irony)

Snarelure
Snarelure

That actually made me interested in getting around to reading Nietzsche faster. Thank you!
(i'm just a brainlet newfag that hasnt even read nizshe yet hahahaha)

Firespawn
Firespawn

Yea but gay marriages, destroying of the family, egalitarism, feminism, pacifism, trans *ekhm* (((people))) and many others its the effect of no morality

eGremlin
eGremlin

The last time Philosophers had influence into the elite group was about 2300 years ago. The last time a politician had influence was the Ceasar family 2100 years ago. The last people who tried to revolutionize against the elite were Napoleon 1989, Lenin 1926, Hitler 1934. All of them lost. Life and the world became nothing but cold business after the industrial revolution. All this ein Übermensch would be aware of. You either become the elite or you die under it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

pacifism
egalitarianism
Both existed from the dawn of times. People like equality and not being killed in some nonsensical war.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Napoleon 1789, I apologize for the typo

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Revolutionares lost but revolution succed
There are no longer nobility or kings
It's past
To make future greater we need to lead the masses

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happy_sad
happy_sad

People like equality

Wrong. "equality" as a moral good is the invention of the enlightenment. The foundation on which the west was built has always been hierarchy and inequality. The very notion of religion is hierarchical with God the supreme being to which everyone else strives.

5mileys
5mileys

Yea and nowadays there are still flat-earthers
Nobody gives a fuck about them like nobody gave a fuck about pacifists and egalistarians X time ago
Now pacifims is common and egalitarism is known as social good nobody can deal, its like modern god.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Modern 'West' doesnt praise God
Modern 'West' praise equality
West is dead

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Skullbone
Skullbone

flat-earthers
even if you don't agree, the fact that something so trivial and simple is hard to refute just goes to show that people will believe anything.
Round Earthers who attack with ridicule and "can you believe this lmao???XDDDD" exposes the intellectual laziness of the modern man.
the massess
the mass asses should be killed off in favor of
not the strong, but the heroic.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Equality was invented by Christianity. The church is literally the oldest institute of globalisation in the world.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Yes a god that says everything is equally beautiful and everyone is equally competent and that there is only one race, the human race and that to pass value judgements is inherently wrong.

Well, you're not going to get a David or a 9th Symphony in that society any time soon.

Art is a very good reflection of the times and it's no coincidence that the greatest art was made under the patronage of the catholic church. The greater the hierarchy the greater the prospect of transcendence. And coming back to Nietzsche and God, whether he exists or not is irrelevant, what matters is that the prospect of his existence is necessary. And that was Nietzsche's point and why he laments the death of God, even though he himself saw Christian morality as weak.

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

The very notion of religion is hierarchical
The very notion of God assumes that all people are equal as they are all insignificant compared to him.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

what is heaven
what is hell

All equal rite :^)

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

mass asses should be killed
i wish it happend but unfortunetly not possible nowadays

Soft_member
Soft_member

Pacifism was always the most moral position. The traditional war was an activity for a select few. Plain folks was rarely a soldier, he was a peasant, burger or maybe priest at best. Normal person participation in the war is the modern day decadence far worse than any gay marriage.

iluvmen
iluvmen

If you believe that being in heaven make you superior to people who are in hell, you commit the sin of pride and will burn in hell with whoever you consider being below yourself.

SniperGod
SniperGod

"Formerly one had the theory of the state as a calculating
utility: now one has the practice as well! — The age of kings is
past because the peoples are no longer worthy of them: they do
not want to see the symbol of their ideal in kings, but a means
for their profit. — That is the whole truth!" - 725 ( Summer-Fall 1883 )

He meant the industrial revolution and the false individualism that came with it. Capitalism brought new kings, that's what he meant. N. despised leading the masses, especially as a philosopher. If he was to choose which kind of ruling system he wanted, he explicitly referred to plato's the republic, politeia. Which would be the exact opposite to individualism, with the exception of the upper caste.

Another thing. Please don't use quotes from Will to Power. These are notes and writings he never wanted to become public, probably because they were too personal.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Passivism in the face of evil, is evil.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Being in heaven is infinitely superior to being in hell.

If you can't figure that out, you can't make the right choice, now, can you.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

The face of evil exists only in fear mongering propaganda. Ubermensch should transcend fears.

5mileys
5mileys

The state of being doesn't make one thing in itself superior to another.

Flameblow
Flameblow

MORALITy CAN'T EXIST WITHOUT THIS ONE SPECIFIC ANCIENT CANAANITE MYTH

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

IT'S A CANAANITE MYTH DESPITED MY THEORY BEING DEBUNKED AND PROVEN WRONG

I DON'T WANT THE BIBLE TO BE TRUE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

t. (you)

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

no trust me guys, my myth is true because I said it is and there's all this proof that I have

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hairygrape
hairygrape

This thread is almost as bad as the /pol/ one. But only barely.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

have some dignity to the subject

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

There's only so many years of hearing the same baseless arguments about Christianity being needed for morality and people just claiming it's true without any evidence that someone can take before they just stop taking it seriously.

They're profoundly dumb ideas.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

might sound dumb but how could god, an eternal and perfect divinity, die?

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

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Bidwell
Bidwell

What atheists hear
"God is ded lmao."
You mean Christians, right?

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TreeEater
TreeEater

Why are atheists so retarded?
They're not, you're probably just judging atheists by their least knowledgeable subset. That, or you're baiting.

farquit
farquit

IT'S A CANAANITE MYTH DESPITED MY THEORY BEING DEBUNKED AND PROVEN WRONG
[citation needed]

askme
askme

destroying of the family, egalitarism, feminism, pacifism
reminder christianity originally supported all these things

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Why are atheists so retarded?
I used to be one of those edgelords in HS. Not really sure why. I guess because I thought I was being a unique by repeating it?

Emberfire
Emberfire

positivists, r*dditors and atheirsts have brain problems.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

atheists are a monolithic entity
Grasp harder at those straws, faggot

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

le Nietzsche was a secret Christian meme