Is it right to name couple of ditches in earth plus a wooden hut a city?
Pic related Benin(Afrikangz name this pit a city)
Why are ditches digged in earth named a city?
Is it right to name couple of ditches in earth plus a wooden hut a city?
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These are ditches the walls of clay
These we'ren't a couple of ditche
Your that sperg right?
Same reason why great Zimbabwe, a stone circle with some huts and fences spread around it with non urban planning is considered a great city
Africa plays history on easy mode:
build wooden hut
call it a palace
The punitive expedition resulted in most of the city being looted and destroyed
as they should considering slaughter that was going on there
It wasn’t a wooden hut m8. You just personally hate Africans.
Other than written accounts no one truly knows what Benin looked like in it's prime all the photos taken were after the city was destroyed also those walls were Massive and interconnected
Should Germany be destroyed did the Aztecs deserve to be destroyed?
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette. Ancestors don’t receive messages themselves.
couple of sticks with earth
couple of sticks
literally a rampart and not even a wall
In fortification architecture, a rampart is a length of bank or wall forming part of the defensive boundary of a castle, hillfort, settlement or other fortified site. It is usually broad-topped and made of excavated earth or masonry or a combination of the two.
wooden hut with three towers
wow truly Rome and China have nothing to show compared to such wonders
You seem truly but hurt
It’s time to stop posting
my dog excavates earth too, but I don't call it a wall
But these were walls
TIL that only stone buildings count as buildings
Fucking Sumerian savages
When whole existence is built around hating africans
Honestly I see why Benin would be considered a city, but Great Zimbabwe, honestly it doesn't look with a city, it just looks like random huts and fences without a plan and they're all very sparsely scattered
Fucking yemmian prinatives building from mud
it's a city compared to what they're used to
I think he’s probably mentally ill. Sane people don’t do this every day. Then again, he is an Australian.
Yeah khami was more of a city but it was smaller if Shona had better connected the enclosure to hill complex and built more between it would be a city
Thou there turrets we're neat
we AUSGODS are the master race. what's you're point?
Can't get laid
I always though the tichitt ruins were cooler and there better organized than Zimbabwe while also being older the date back to the bronze age
Can't get laid
They made neat bronze and brass objects but they weren't on Ife level though
Not really, they were not even hollow inside you can't even consider them towers in the true sense since they served no purpose, they were just piles of stone blocks, also there's only a decent sized one
Oh no he didn't
They aren't older, what you're posting is a mosque from the ghana empire dating to the 13th century AD, get your facts straight
It's Medieval, from the medieval Tichit settlement, not the neolithic one
they descend from Neolithic Era Bafour people. Black agriculturalist inhabitants of a once fertile Green Sahara. Increased Desertification drove these proto-Soninke, pre-Ghana civilizations southwest where they established stone settlements as early as 2000 B.C.E. in Dhar Tichitt/Tichitt.
Herodotus the Greek tells of silent trade between Ghana and Carthage. Pointing to stories of Punic travelers like Hanno the Navigator. If true, trade with Carthage possibly started as early as the 6th century B.C. Well before the known start of Ghana in 300B.C.-300A.D. It is very possible that the decline of Carthage after the Punic Wars left the Soninke clans cut off & tradeless as Carthage kept their source of African gold secret. (A tradition the Wangara would continue). Nomatter the historical fact
So what you're still wrong about that structure being "bronze age" whatever that means since the Tichitt people didn't use bronze, it's a Mosque built 800 years ago or so
There are two settlement locations at these sites. The first is heavy dry-stone structures and the other is a scattering of archaeological material with no real structures in the area. This evidence supports the hypothesis that there was occupation at two different places during a full year. The heavy masonry would serve well during the rainy season being up on the plateau and the less structural during the dry season down near where the water would be.
The Dar Tichitt site had become a complex culture by 1600 BCE and had architectural and material culture elements that seemed to match the site at Koumbi-Saleh. In more recent work in Dar Tichitt, and then in Dhar Nema and Dhar Walata, it has become more and more clear that as the desert advanced, the Dhar Tichitt culture (which had abandoned its earliest site around 300 BC, possibly because of pressure from desert nomads, but also because of increasing aridity) and moved southward into the still well watered areas of northern Mali.
Bronze age was the era DHAR TICHITTwas abandoned by 500 b.c
Yes, and? that structure belongs to the medieval Tichitt settlement of Ghana or Wagadou whatever you wanna call it, as stated by the French article I've posted for you to read, it's like saying the Parthenon is 6,000 years ago because Athene was inhabited since the Neolithic and there was a village, you're not fooling anyone who has the time to look things up
Yes you retarded fuck, can't you even look at the Wikipedia page, it was resettled in the middle ages, did you even read the Wikipedia page you posted a dozen times before? Or did you only read the part that suits your imagination?
The medieval trading settlement at Tichit is now a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
The sandstone escarpment of the Dhar Tichitt in South-Central Mauritania was inhabited by Neolithic agropastoral communities for approximately one and half millennium during the Late Holocene, from ca. 4000 to 2300 BP. The absence of prior evidence of human settlement points to the influx of mobile herders moving away from the “drying” Sahara towards more humid lower latitudes. These herders took advantage of the peculiarities of the local geology and environment and succeeded in domesticating bulrush millet – Pennisetum sp. The emerging agropastoral subsistence complex had conflicting and/or complementary requirements depending on circumstances. In the long run, the social adjustment to the new subsistence complex, shifting site location strategies, nested settlement patterns and the rise of more encompassing polities appear to have been used to cope with climatic hazards in this relatively circumscribed area. An intense arid spell in the middle of the first millennium BC triggered the collapse of the whole Neolithic agropastoral system and the abandonment of the areas. These regions, resettled by sparse oasis-dwellers populations and iron-using communities start
Archaeological investigations in southern Mauretania have revealed a wealth of rather spectacular stone masonry villages which were occupied by prehistoric cultivators as early as 1000 B.C. It is argued that the inhabitants of these villages were Negro and very probably Soninke, and that the basic elements of their culture had developed without major influences from outside the area. The apparent sophistication and complexity of this cultural manifestation, combined with the close fit of developments in this area with Carneiro's theory of state formation, suggests that this prehistoric complex represented at least a powerful chiefdom which embodied many of the characteristics of subsequent West African states. The first demonstrable outside influences in the area began about 600 B.C
Also from the wikipedia page of another ghana town
Today, Oualata is home to a manuscript museum, and is known for its highly decorative vernacular architecture. It was made a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1996 together with Ouadane, Chinguetti and Tichitt.
Now let's look at Chinguetti, its architecture looks almost identical to that of Medieval Tichitt en.wikipedia.org
I've had enough of your dumb dishonest posts
Nowhere does it say that they built the Medieval mosques, if you look at the plant of the Neolithic settlement their all circular swellings and fences, while what you posted is a Medieval structure built by the Ghana kingdom
There's no mention of a mosque in dhar tichitt all that's was that it was abandoned by 600 B.C.
Dhar Tichitt is a Neolithic archaeological site located in the southwestern region of the Sahara Desert, in Mauritania. It is one of several settlement locations along the sandstone cliffs in the area. The cliffs were inhabited by pastoralists starting at around 1600 BC and lasted to around 300 BC. This area is one of the oldest known archaeological occupation sites in the western part of Africa. About 500 stone settlements littered the region in the former savannah of the Sahara. Its inhabitants fished and grew millet.
I mean, the level of development of the African kingdoms at the time the Europeans arrived would've been comparable to the Germanic tribes pre-Roman contact.
Are we to claim that our German ancestors are retroactively an "inferior race," because they hadn't invented steam engines, naval technology, etc. by 200 BC? The genetic difference between Germanics from 200 BC to 1800 AD is negligible, and yet they went from a race of tribal iron-age communities to an industrial empire. What's to say that a similar shift in the African cultural context couldn't have happened given enough time?
You can keep laughing until another WW1 style warfare spree begins.
There is, read the Wikipedia article
That paragraph is preceded by “r.
The medieval trading settlement at Tichit is now a UNESCO World Heritage Site.”
You know we can all read that page you dishonest fuck?
Learn how to write in English, I don’t know if you’re that dumb or this is all a ruse by some annoying loser LARPing as an Afrocentric, I’m not denying there were stone villages 4000 years ago that was never my point so stop copy pasting the same paragraphs about the existence of stone huts over and over again. I’m denying the tower you posted dates to 4000 years ago. It dates to 900-700 years ago as it was part of a new settlement founded in the middle ages by the Ghana kingdom near the abandoned Neolithic settlement of Dhar Tichitt. But talking to you is useless and I know you’ll just copy paste the same paragraph over and over again
We get it Pedro there were human sacrifices go cut out a heart for Quetzalcoatl or something
It's not out of the realm of possibility that fairly extensive natural selection has taken place in Europe since the iron age.
Yes and yes.
Good lord, these barbarians are looting and killing everyone!
In order to stop them, we need to loot and kill everyone!
WAKANDA WAS REAL SHEEEIIITTTT
fairly extensive natural selection
You are hinting at it but you don't outright say it.
tfw WW1 was actually a huge urban planning program
Three philosophical schools in Mali existed during the country's "golden age" from the 12th to the 16th centuries: University of Sankore, Sidi Yahya University, and Djinguereber University.
By the end of Mansa Musa's reign in Mali, the Sankoré University had been converted into a fully staffed University with the largest collections of books in Africa since the Library of Alexandria. The Sankoré University was capable of housing 25,000 students and had one of the largest libraries in the world with between 400,000 to 700,000 manuscripts.
Now THAT looks cool
posting excerpts from wikipedia articles
Come on you're proving him right
No evidence that this site was occupied (let alone built) by sub-Saharan Black Africans and in fact, everything points to a Mediterranean people who would have moved back north as the climate became drier.
Implying that any society that engages in horrifying blood rituals or industrialized genocide ever gets to redeem themselves.
And before you ask, yes that includes Anglos as well.