Are apologies emotionally manipulative?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Are apologies emotionally manipulative?

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Soft_member
Soft_member

they are when they are not desired or requested

WebTool
WebTool

Silence is better.

One should act in way never having to apologize in the first place.

And yes, its manipulative

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

contrition does not necessarily exculpate the wrongdoer nor take the consequence out of his action

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

obligated to forgive

"No."

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Those of good character are merciful. Those are bad character are not. Resentment and spite are ugly things.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

I think an apology is needed if you manipulated someone in the first place. If you did harm someone, verbally or physically with no intent in doing so, a mere "excuse me" will be good enough. An apology something bigger, like, you lied to someone and he discovered it. If you want to regain his/her trust, you 'eed to formally apologize by bowing to a 20° angle and say "I'm really sorry, please forgive me for my shitty move". Or something like this idk

iluvmen
iluvmen

Depends on how you use them, you *can* use them as a manipulation tool, but mostly (at least as far as I can tell) common people use them legitimately.

eGremlin
eGremlin

*kills your family*
"Hey sorry senpai I just couldn't resist"

You can forgive, or not. Forgiveness does not necessarily preclude punishment, but it matters very little if you have the guy hanged by the state with anger or cold determination or nothing at all in your heart. The murderer and your family are still dead. You might move on and you might not, but that doesn't really relate to how you felt before.

whereismyname
whereismyname

So you agree apologies are disgusting. People tend to apologize expecting you to forgive them. They're trying to make you forgive them, which is what a "good" person would do. If you want to forgive someone, you could do it on your own without their act compelling you to.

farquit
farquit

I actually think it's no more or less manipulative than any other interpersonal interaction. Strangers only ever want something from you, so there is no reason to hold "forgiveness" separate from other parts of the give and take of an interaction with them. For family, friends and acquaintences the principle is the same, even though you don't generally view those relationships as transactional because there's more on top that calculus is still going on under the surface.

viagrandad
viagrandad

What's the alternative?
Are you saying people never make mistakes?

Methnerd
Methnerd

There are mistakes and there are choices, a mistake is easy to forgive(depending on how grave, of course) a choice on the other hand is much harder to forgive and often leaves a mark on any relationship, if it dosent kill it rigth off, that is.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Fucking retarded, if sorry isn't good enough or you don't think they're sincere then don't accept the apology.
You're just a limpdicked fag user. Fucking weeb.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

None of that has anything to do with whether apologies are manipulative or not, brainlet. You're just saying you don't need to accept it.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Anyone who hears that is obligated to forgive
Shadow Maya, that's dumb as bricks.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Nah. They can apologise but that doesnt mean you have to forgive a single thing.

Op's pic is very japanese but that's it.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

They're meant to be a genuine expression of regret, "i know i did something wrong to you, and i won't do it again."
A very honest interaction which has no more potential for manipulation than any other.
Cut your head off faggot.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

it's another the japanese are all autistic and don't understand interpersonal relations episode
good golly

Techpill
Techpill

Doesn't matter how heartfelt if the act is manipulative by its very nature. Blow your brains out, you angry tard.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

it's a "autist judges an entire country by an excerpt from a video game" episode

TechHater
TechHater

Being sincere doesn't mean it's not manipulative.

girlDog
girlDog

False. Good is in no way entitled to be merciful. Lack of mercy doesn't correlate directly to evil.

An absolute good being would just make the apologizing guy serve his punishment anyway, or execute him if that's the punishment warranted by the magnitude of the wrongdoing.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

meant obligated, not entitled.

cum2soon
cum2soon

No, if you apologize you mean you were a jerk and that the other person didn't deserve what you made. You are not influencing anyone, just being humble and not a egoic.

Inmate
Inmate

I may still be mad at you after you apologize, but damnation, I'll be mad at you long after if it's insincere or not offered at all.

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