Quasi-war

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Louis XVI, King of the Kingdom of France, sends aid to American Colonists during the American Revolutionary war
Kingdom of France becomes a US ally
Some smelly bitter peasants dislike that the King taxed the people a bit more to make up for the money sent to help the US
They kill the King and end the Kingdom of France, starting the French Republic
Act like they're allies with the US, ask for a shitton of money in return
US informs them they are rebels who killed their ally, and they only owed money to the ally they murdered, the King, kindly asking them to fuck off
REEEEEEEEEE BETRAYAL BETRAYAL TRAITOOORS
Are the French retarded?
If I owe a mate $20, I wont pay it to the guy who just murdered him for lending me the $20.

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Emberburn
Emberburn

are the French retarded?
history's fundamental question

Evilember
Evilember

There's nothing wrong about your post.

JunkTop
JunkTop

This board is for the discussion of history, posting an irrefutable fact is not the best way to open a conversation.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

just exposed the deep ungratefull nature of the anglo

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Thanks for killing my friend, here's all the money I owed him

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

the friend, is the people.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The friend is the order.

Bidwell
Bidwell

If they'd had a revolution that actually respected individual rights and the rule of law, we might have allied with them.

Inmate
Inmate

The people killed the King who sent the aid for sending the aid.
The friend is the King.

idontknow
idontknow

Only the retards who displaced the nobility. It's too bad Louis XVI wasn't tougher, he could've passed his reforms, and potentially tried to reform the nobility, too.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

The friend is the state.

But in monarchy, the Dynasty is the state. The US is right to ignore them since they took power violently and can be considered tyrants.

RumChicken
RumChicken

The US is right to ignore them since they took power violently
a bit like the founding fathers

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

there's a difference between taking power through a just war and taking power by murdering thousands of civilians

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

The order can't really change without the state changing.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Presumably, any debts associated before the American Revolution could be claimed by other countries to have been with the British. I'm not sure of any specific example of this.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

french help traitors
the traitors betray them
this is a shocking development
Literally everyone not from England has Downs

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Emberburn
Emberburn

Where is the fucking treason?
The King who the debt was owed to was dead, the country was overtaken by traitors.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

where is the treason

"that these colonies are, and of a right ought to be, free and independent states"

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Yeah that's why you're importing millions of muslims who fundamentally hate you, and your way of life.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

France lends money to American rebels for their fight against bongs
A decade later, France is at war with all Europe and thus needs money
Ask Americans to pay their debt
"fuck ya frog, u changed ur gubmint so we aint owin' ya anythin"
"here, i'm sidin with dem bongs against u, that'll teach ya for askin me money"

A proud moment of American history

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StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Hey, the British constitution says we get representation in parliament
No
Well, if you're not going to uphold your end of the agreement then we're no longer your subjects
The treason happened in London by denying the rights of Englishmen which had been had for nearly a century by that point.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I love you, Englishbro, but the founding fathers committed righteous treason. Yes, it was treason, but that was because they were denied their rights as Englishmen by that Parliament which they had no representatives in.

Supergrass
Supergrass

the british constitution
stopped reading there

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

We owed money to the King. The new government murdered the King.
A proud moment of American history
Genuinely, held true to our values and honored a deceased ally.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_of_Rights_1689#Provisions_of_the_Act

Did... did you forget this existed? Are you bongs so deprived of your liberty by London that you forgot your own history?

Spamalot
Spamalot

bill
constitution

pick one, or even better, pick up a dictionary

viagrandad
viagrandad

Some smelly bitter peasants

Implying

Bidwell
Bidwell

a body of fundamental principles or established precedents according to which a state or other organization is acknowledged to be governed
Literally what it does
It's literally the solid foundation upon which your government is supposed to stand. Pull parliaments cock from your ears and eyes. Learn your history. Know your rights.

Methnerd
Methnerd

the irony is off the charts. anglos are jews.

reforms? the revolution was bout making a constitutional monarchy, it was about reforming royalty in France. Louis XVI swore to the people france would become a constitutional monarchy, he ran away, wether he was convinced to run away by scheming revolutionnaries who wanted the monarchy to die or he simply ran away because he really wanted it we'll never know

WebTool
WebTool

You are so wrong. Louis XVI wanted to reform the government well before the revolution, but the nobility wouldn't let him pass the laws he wanted to, and he wasn't a strong enough guy to force it though. He completely supported becoming a constitutional monarch, becoming the King of the French, rather than the King of France. He simply tried to leave the Paris area, as he feared for his and his family's safety. He was just going to a safe place of his in the countryside.
Where's the French Revolution guy when you need him? He knows all of this.

StonedTime
StonedTime

American settlers overstep testy territorial bounds
Britain protects American interests in the French and Indian War
Britain asks for more contribution, less than what Londoners pay
America says fuck you, smuggles, and ignores
sides with France against Britain
also skimps out on the debts to France
realizes the incredible luck they're having
Louisiana purchase
Spanish-American War
onto the Carribean and Pacific islands
WWI
WWII
mideast and southeast asia

There's no stopping us boyos!

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TechHater
TechHater

Fight a war to overthrow tyrannical british government
Get help from french tyrant
He lends away money (french tax money of course)
French overthrow their tyrant
Sorry, we only owed the king
It's bullshit, it's hypocritical and all the burgers defending their country know it.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

The Founding Fathers weren't anti-monarchist, and were never radical republicans. Beyond that, neither George III nor Louis XVI were tyrannical.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Fight a war to overthrow tyrannical british government
Get help from french monarch
FTFY

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