Perú and Argentina

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Hi Veeky Forums
I am working on a little essay about these two countries.

Why do they have a good relationship?
So far the only stuff I found was Peru helped Argentina in the Falkland conflict (Islas Malvinas) and over the history Peru was led by some historical characters from Argentina, but is it only that? or is there something else I am missing?

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Need_TLC
Need_TLC

What good relationship?

Soft_member
Soft_member

strategic diplomatic alliance against Chile and Brazil, 19th century stuff

Skullbone
Skullbone

Search fo General San Martin, he was the greatest argentinean hero and liberate both Argentina and Peru (also Chile) from the Spanish Crown.
Every park in Argentina and Peru have a statue of him. There is also a statue in central park NY.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Pooru
Darkgentina
Having a good relationship
No.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Was he the guy that wanted a constitutional monarchy led by an inca royal family?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I would say the relationship went to hell when Argentina sold weapons to Ecuador secretly
the eternal porteƱo

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Cant tell you exactly but the liberation of Peru was araund the 1800s, the incas where long gone by then.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I think that was Miranda

Illusionz
Illusionz

Nobody likes peruvians.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Yes.

The family of the Inca emperor is still around, they're politicians. Queen Maxima is related to them.

Methnerd
Methnerd

Brief overview from an Argie:

Armies from Argentina under the command of San Martin helped liberate Chile and Peru from Spanish rule. Also including Chilean troops and a fleet led by a British Admiral. (Cochrane)
San Martin would serve as Protector of Peru (temporary office) but refused to become a dictator a stepped down from office.
Peru-Bolivian Confederation declared war against Argentina and Chile in the early 19th century, but that's a really obscure and forgotten short war
When Chile was at war with Peru and Bolivia, Argentina occupied the Patagonia from the natives, this is a reason for much of the animosity between Chile and Argentina because Chileans consider the whole of Patagonia was somehow "stolen" from them, while Argentina considers Chile was trying to steal it by arming Mapuche natives and sending them across the border, which Argentina stopped by militarily occupying the territory for good. By extension, Chilean-Argentine animosity extended to friendship with Peru.
Not much happened during the 20th century except for the Peruvian donation of a squadron of Mirage jets during the Falklands War
More than a million Peruvians immigrated to Argentina starting in the 1980s, most numerous South American immigrants in Argentina along with Bolivians and Paraguayans
Some resentment in the 1990s because Argentina sold arms to Ecuador when it was at war with Peru, Argentina was supposed to be a mediator between bith countries. A really shitty move. A formal apology was made in the 2000s and the two governments mended ties

That's about it. Relations have been friendly but not particularly close. There were some bad moments and rough patches.

Argentina's closest allies in South America these days are probably Brazil, Paraguay and Uruguay IMHO, we have the Mercosur trade bloc with them. Chile and Argentina have grown closer too because of 1990s democratization and both countries having conservative governments now.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

conservative

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Macri is liberal, we're not the US, conservativism for us is peronist autism.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

It's the closest analogue in English. Right-wing liberals a la Merkel (which is what Macri is) don't really exist in the US parlance. If I say "liberal" it means leftist in the US context, which Macri certainly is not.

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ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

In hindsight I should have just said "centre-right" to make things more clear.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

That's true. Don't go to Peru, Chile, Ecuador nor Bolivia. Those countries are full of ugly disgusting people.

If you are white or black, the best place for you is Argentina, Colombia, Venezuela or Brazil.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Unironically suggesting someone to go to Venezuela, the murder capital of the world
user what are you doing?

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Well, don't go to Venezuela, Peru, Chile, Bolivia nor Ecuador. These places are full of indios. Disgusting pestilent peoples.

If you are white or black, Argentina, Uruguay, or Colombia are paradises full of beautiful women and kind people wanting your genes. Don't go to indio countries.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Are there any books you recommend for learning Argentinean history?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Peruvian immigrants usually aren't that bad

viagrandad
viagrandad

They are inferior and should go back to their disgusting country.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Are there any books you recommend for learning Argentinean history?
Well, in English anything by David Rock is golden, he is a British historian specialized in Argentine history. All of his books are great, he manages to mantain a neutral perspective throughout and goes really in depth.

If you are more interested in Economics, and 19th-Early 20th century settlers and the "special relationship" with Britain there's a great book by New Zealand historian James Belich called "Replenishing the Earth: The Settler Revolution and the Rise of the Anglo world", which has an entire section dedidated to Argentina, it's very detailed and helped me write my thesis which was on Argentine agricultural exports during this period.

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Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Thanks, user. I've been interested in Argentina for a while now but until now I didn't have any sources for it's history.

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