>be me >start strength training July 2017 >125lbs >make some noticeable gains >still have flat white girl butt >legs kinda look okay maybe >accidentally eat at a surplus >get fat >ask fit how to recomp, they say stfu cut and bulk >try to cut >lifts go down >get discouraged >decide fuck it I’ll just bulk >fit said bulking would be best anyway as I’m still making noob gains >Christmas dinner >sweets >take shower Christmas night >see self in mirror >nearly cry at sight of self carrying food baby >look like I’m third trimester >weight now 140
Sorry for the stupid greentext. Since starting my bulk in earnest lifts have gone up consistently again, which feels nice. But no one likes a fat girl. Especially not the fat girl. What the fuck should I do? Keep eating until I’m done with noob gains? Feel like I’m gonna lose all my gains if I cut and I’m literally close to crying tonight lol.
Jonathan Gutierrez
>accidentally eat at a surplus >magically gets fat
I don't know this feel because I'm not a delusional land whale lmao
Christopher White
>falling for the bulking meme Stop listening to the faggots on this board and just use your own judgement on deciding how much you eat/train.
Jaxson Baker
Do you not understand my thread?
I’m saying I would like to cut, but fear that in doing so I’ll lose my gains and miss out on these important noob gains. Eating like I have been I’ve been making consistent gains...
And when I tried cutting my lifts went to shit. Make sense?
Eli Cox
>fat at 140 how fucking short are you?
anyway you're never going to have easy gains, since your testosterone levels aren't going to be high, because you are, duh, female.
bulk until fat, cut until thin, continue forever until you have muscle
Elijah Martin
Also are those lashes photoshopped?
Well I want to keep making gains while also losing weight? But that doesn’t seem possible...
5’6”?
So you’re saying it’s time to cut now. Will I stop making this significant progress then though?
Elijah Richardson
not that dude, but yes cut, no you wont go down significantly in gains if anything youmight just stay the same, Idk when I cut I can usually lift a tad bit more probably because all the fat leaves my body making it easier. Either way cut
Thomas Brown
post vocaroo of braaaaaap
Brayden Nguyen
I'm DMAB and all my lifts stall when I cut seriously
Mason Perry
Dmab?
Mason Sullivan
I feel like your fighting 2 ideas in your head. Do you wanna look good naked or be a fucking power lifter?
Joshua Gray
>tl;dr: not fat, just bulking We’ve come full circle.
Camden Reyes
Will u be my gf Wait how old are you Anyways just eat less and move more and drink lots of water and do squats and deadlifts
Zachary Ward
Pics so we can determine fatness
Joseph White
Just fast for a couple of weeks and resume your bulk.
The longer your cut lasts the more time you'll lose on your gains.
Jackson Williams
do you want strength gains or muscle size gains?
John Torres
Are you a girl though? Feel like men have an advantage here.
I want to look good naked- which means bigger legs and butt. And less fat.
I’m 20s
Here’s one I posted before... not posting food baby pics taken today though :/
Should I aim for a weight goal? Does fasting mean no food? Feel like I’d be useless at work if I tried to not eat
Yes please
Michael Torres
Ew tattoos, nevermind. Im not interested in having a whore gf.
Nolan Diaz
Lol not even fat. Just eat well and lift.
Jonathan Fisher
ill be your bf we can cut together and I love tats Either way no I'm not a girl im a dude and I dont think we have that big of an advantage when it comes to lifting and cutting. Give it a try, if you lose some gains youll just get them back after the cut
David Edwards
Welcome to Veeky Forums
Chase Powell
yes you're fat, pls cut
Men like the V or "lines that go in panties" -or whatever you call those- too
Connor Reed
Your legs/ass look fucking shit. Post food baby pics now, but I think I can already safely diagnose you with unfortunate fat distribution genetics. Just accept the fact you'll look shit for a while, bulk until you have ass and then cut. A little tummy is excusable as long as you have an ass
Isaiah Bennett
You are not going to get the advice you need here, cut or bulk is not the decision. Get a personal trainer. And a personal shopper. And a shrink. Good luck.
Logan Barnes
Don’t talk shit.
Think I’d lose weight and keep making gains if I ate like a surplus on keto?
My future husband doesn’t post on Veeky Forums lol
Thanks I’ve been here like a year
But the gains? Fuck.
Yeah maybe this is what I should do. I was telling myself before like... who am I trying to impress? I’m not with anyone and too busy lifting, working and being a student to have a social life so it’s whatever. But then I saw myself today and it was like okay this is NOT good :(
I’m talking in circles I know. My head keeps doing it too.
>cut! >bulk! >cut! >bulk! >fuck it just cry and hate everything :(
Ryan Gutierrez
What do you mean.
Logan Myers
OP just just till your skinny then lean bulk.
Nolan James
Eat well, lift 5 or 6 days a week.
Leo Barnes
You were upset by your food baby, but most people have a food baby at christmas. This is a body image issue not a /fit one. Other psych things are also being teased out in this thread (e.g. no social life). It's ok to get 1 to 1 rl advice, and it will be more helpful to you than anything on here. Be happy.
Eli Cruz
C U T U T ..and lift of course
Ian Long
>my future husband doesn't post on Veeky Forums damn Also just cut
Jaxon Carter
Is that really what you meant? Anyway I can’t afford any of those things. I’m not crazy, either.
Joseph Myers
>Future husband doesn't post on Veeky Forums
Yet you're fucking here. God I hate women.
Noah Russell
Tattoos are disgusting
Jack Edwards
please please be in the city of C O M P T O N
Camden White
You need to squat (squat) much much more. What is even your routine?
Jonathan Nelson
All 3 can be effectively free. There's different levels of crazy. Lots of people have body image issues, and it's ok to get help.
At the very least, you need to set some goals that can be tangibly measured and stick to them for a period of time: Want to cut? Know in advance what your target is and how to do it healthily. Want to bulk? Forget about being fat for now, but you won't be able to do this without sorting out your body image issues.
Carson Sanchez
no guy cares about your lift numbers. Just don't be fat
So, yes. CUT
Gavin Thomas
It was sort of a joke lol, calm down. But I’m definitely not looking for a boyfriend on Veeky Forums...
So don’t get one.
Squat days (twice per week): Barbell hip thrusts 3x8-12 Barbel squats 5x5 Some arms thing 3x5 Kettlebell swings 3x20 Glute accessories (stuff with bands that you guys call meme gym thot exercises) Abs things
Deadlift days (once per week): Hip thrusts 3x8-12 Deadlift 1x5 Squats 5x5 Arms thing Glute accessories Abs
Joseph Taylor
no high value male wants a fat girlfriend OP, you fell for the "thicc" meme which was started by poor black dudes and is only now perpetuated ironically You should get to cutting immediately, although truth be told, I don't even know why I am sitting here giving you sincere advice when you're a chubby, tatted up moron who is just looking to lock down a man
Kayden Roberts
This is the most gym thot gym routine I've ever seen. Let your legs relax holy shit I bet they're incredibly burned out.
Jayden Hernandez
Cut you fucking nigger
Alexander Torres
i can burn them out even more if you catch my drift hehehe
Thomas Richardson
How can those things be free? Personal trainers at my gym are ridiculously expensive, and both personl shoppers and mental health care are for rich people.
Setting goals is something poor people can handle though.
Getting the thread a little bit more on track again now. I guess what I’m really wondering is how much I’ll lose out on by cutting right now. People talk about noob gains like they’re this magical thing that you must take advantage while you can, and that you basically lose it all after your first serious cut and will never be able to make progress that quickly ever again. True? False?
Jaxson Brooks
I-I have a girlfriend, but seriously you need to relax and just have an "arm day." Also you need to make sure to eat an incredible amount of protein if you really are going to work out those muscles that much that often.
Jayden Bell
Hahahaha, literally started reading the thread thinking, okay let's see where she's at in her big 3 plus the press, then came across that pic, saw the tattoo, and thought "fuck this shit" to myself.
Nathaniel Howard
Hey fuck you.
My quads are like steel when feeling them but don’t look much bigger at all. Is that not normal?
I thought this was a pretty basic routine.
Yeah that’s just someone pretending to be me. What’s the arm day for? I only lift 3 days a week; is that not enough rest?
Grayson Lee
>Some arms thing 3x5 >Arms thing
Kill yourself. Also how many ass accessories do you need? You can't target tone you dumb bitch.
David Nelson
I do ohp, bench, chin ups and pull ups. But I only do one of these each gym session. That’s why I said arms things. Also because they’re not really important or relevant to the thread topic
What do you mean you can’t target tone? Goal of accessories is still hypertrophy, not to “tone”. Whatever tone even means
Thomas Ward
You can’t “miss out” on noob gains. Noob gains are just the fact that putting on the first bit of strength and muscle is easy and gets harder as you go along. If you train for a month and lose everything you gained in that first month, you’ll easily get them back if you train another month.
Isaac Bell
Just cut slower than you did last time. You won't lose your gains. Also you probably didn't eat enough protein. You need to up your intake on a cut.
Elijah Butler
>lines that go in panties vagina bones?
Evan Peterson
>being a student to have a social life stop drinking alcohol
Kayden Reed
Have you got a name for the baby?
Chase Nelson
You're not gonna lose shit. Start cutting.
Samuel Sullivan
Start doing barbell squats.
Luis Johnson
Get the fuck out of here
Camden Clark
Show benis
Camden Walker
It really bothers me in a female if she has a wider belly than hips. And it looks like this is the case with you. Start cutting now. Drastically. Continue to workout and forget noob gains and bulking. Stay on a protein rich diet
Jordan Sanchez
Eat slightly less and add cardio to the end of your workouts. Cutting too much your lifts will suffer or even eat around maintance with cardio after your lifts and slowly recomp
Chase Murphy
Pathetic workout do stronglifts 5x5
Eli Garcia
lmao it worked
Nolan Bell
hello 20s, I'm Mufasir. Open arms and vabeen.
Asher Long
Cut for god's sake Don't fall for the thicc meme, you don't have the required bone structure
Ayden Richardson
Mental health Care is decidedly NOT only for "rich people." Assuming you have insurance, check with your provider and you can probably get in HELLA cheap. My sessions are 5 bucks every 2 weeks and my meds are 4 every month. If you're a student, most universities have on-campus clinics/counselling services that you pay for as part of tuition. Get the help you need and stop making excuses.
Samuel Torres
Not if your lifting the exact same lifts over and over again and you work out the same muscles multiple times. I also guarantee you that your diet isn't good enough for this kind of work, either. I don't want to assume anything about how much sleep you get, but you should be getting very much sleep.
You should have an arm day anyway because your upper body is probably extremely weak and you should get it stronger if you're weightlifting.
Brandon Phillips
Yeah the school does offer free counseling. But I don’t need counseling. I’m doing relatively well atm, just trying to get some things like my body sorted out.
Thanks for the concern though.
Wait so what’s wrong with my routine? It’s basically just starting strength with some accessories thrown in. You seem to be saying that a bro split would be better, which it might be but I really don’t understand why. Can you explain?
Nicholas Reed
No, no. Don't bro split. Just have a day where you do bench press, shoulder press, things like that. Give your legs a day off. Your muscles have a much harder time getting stronger if you're constantly working them out and giving them no rest.
Noah Hernandez
Bitch you need to cut asap, your looking soft and pudgy AF plus you don't even have any ass to balance it out. Fuck tryna b powerful no one will care how strong you are if you look like shit. Cardio and less food. Start now or after Christmas leftovers are finished.
David Moore
I do OHP once every week and bench once every week. And I do chin-ups and pull-ups alternating the other day I work out. And there’s always rest days between my workout sessions. I go Sunday, Tuesday, Friday. Why is this not sufficient? What about my routine is too intensive, exactly?
I’m super confused here lol
Jeez :(
Parker Smith
Nobody cares how strong you are, only you, especially if you're a girl. It's your figure that counts. Very few guys like big, fat strong chicks.
Luke Hall
Sorry babe, it's tough love. Same thing happened to my gf only she naturally has a fat ass so a good amount of her fat distributed there. Being soft gets old tho it's time for you to start getting tight
Grayson Gonzalez
As a girl you shouldn't bulk lol. I mean you should if that's what you want but generally the "bulk even if fat" advice is given to skinny fat men who wanna get big and aesthetic. Eat at a small deficit and keep lifting
Tyler Long
Hey femanon, 5'7 femanon here at 150lb ~25%bf. It is hard to see lifts stall and even decrease, but that's often what cutting means. So long as you're eating your protein and lifting heavy (lower your volume while cutting, but DON'T STOP LIFTING), you shouldn't lose too much muscle even in a calorific deficit - but if you're really worried, I've had solid muscle-sparing cut progress (~5%bf decrease without strength loss) on keto. Apparently IF can have similar benefits. Don't accept people calling things memes on the internet without doing your own research, and if you have access to fitness professionals, consider their advice alongside the work of the scientific community. There are a lot of good trainers out there, but a lot of bro-scientists who seem credible too; don't let anyone take you for a ride, because it's your body and you have to live in it.
Ethan Wood
You assume that she cares what you or anyone else thinks. Maybe strength can be its own reward regardless of gender.
Alexander Thomas
Kek'd
Jeremiah Scott
Why is it that every time you see some retarded post on this board it's some woman who made it?
Christopher Gonzalez
you are fat. you know what to do.
Landon Wilson
Listen here little baby. You're gonna get a lot of hurtful and degrading comments, but that ain't what I'm about. Let me just say, you are perfect the way you are. You hear me sugar? PERFECT. Don't ever change. You deserve anything and everything you want. Stay safe for me, baby girl.
>mfw thinking of you hurting
Evan Powell
Thanks so much for posting! We really could use more women posters here, and your advice seems a lot better than most. I should probably just post on reddit when I want decent advice lol.
Might give keto a try, and I definitely won’t stop lifting. Thanks for sharing your own experiences with this. Gives me some hope lol. How much of a deficit do you eat at when cutting?
Hudson Moore
Mate. Your standards for retardation are low if the lame femanon posts are the only ones you find stupid.
Nolan Cruz
>accidentally eat at a surplus >accidentally bullshit
Ethan Stewart
Pls go and stay go
Parker Roberts
I often post without broadcasting gender because legion listens just fine if they think I'm a dude too; I'm pleasantly surprised you didn't get more of the classic "tits or gtfo" desu! There may be more femanons than people think, but it's not usually useful to say so (unless looking for specific advice) lol. The sticky here and at reddit contain solid researched info, but it's not always useful if you have specific questions. I have PCOS so I cut a little lower than most recommend (causes ~100-200cal BMR reduction in most cases) - generally for someone who isn't obese, like yourself, I'd recommend 250 to 500cal deficit/day (so you don't lose as much strength as you might on 1000, which is generally the recommended max). I try to keep my deficit around 500-700/day to offset my own body's lame setback. Whether you go higher or lower depends on how quickly you want to see results, and how much muscle you can handle losing alongside the fat (higher deficit=faster visible results but usually more muscle loss too). Sometimes I like varying it up and eating at maintenance one lift day, then double my deficit for the next (rest) day - it definitely makes it easier psychologically!
Tyler Moore
tl; dr
Lucas Bailey
Tl;dr: you're lazy and probably won't make it with that mentality.
Owen Brown
Not OP, not fat, and know how to diet/train
Jackson Davis
Didn't think you were OP, don't care if you're fat, don't believe you're the repository of all dietary and training knowledge.
And anyway, I didn't post that for you to read, so I'm inconsolable, distraught, tearing my hair out at the fact that some random isn't interested in two other randoms' conversation
Oliver Rivera
"Flat white girl butt" kys fat self hating white cunt
No one cares about your lifts going up as a girl, your sole measure of value is looks. Since you fucked that up I suggest you keep stuffing your face and settle for a cracked put Tyrone who will leave you with 3 mullato kids in some trailer park.
Kayden Richardson
Cut. Keep the deficit moderate to small (no crash dieting with crazy deficit margins).
Don't fight the strength loss too much. It happens and is normal.
Don't shoot for a goal weight. Choose how long you want the cut to last (suggest 9-12 weeks), and monitor progress. Set backs will happen. Just remember that the important thing is what you do with consistency.
Matt Ogus has a lot of helpful info for cutting on his channel.
Elijah Young
>flat white girl butt Why do you want to look like a nigger?
Nathaniel Taylor
>basic routine >basic Simple bitch
Ethan Wilson
>lose weight and make gains on a keto surplus holy fuck , no wonder you look like shit, you are retarded
Robert Myers
oh yeah PCOS is rough :(
seems like a lot of girls have to put up with it too. very unfortunate. thanks again for the recommendations! you are legit the bee's knees :)
i keep telling myself i'm gonna do more cardio, too. feel like maybe an hour of cardio twice a week and a smallish deficit might be what i need. really hoping i don't lose all my muscle from it lol. eating more on exercise days makes sense as i'm always super hungry after working out anyway.
what's your routine like? and how much cardio do you get in? how much progress have you made? unlike most of the people here you seem pretty sensible so i'm curious lol.
Lucas Williams
why women shouldn't be on fit
Caleb White
I don’t think you should be too concerned about losing muscle that quickly. You’ll lose strength on a cut, yeah, but you’ve gained more than enough body fat for a bulk already. Cut for a couple of months. Do HIIT.
Austin Morales
Its not shit talk, its truth talk. Women with tattoos are trying to indicate that they are loose and easy. Prove me wrong by showing a timestamped picture of your air tight vagina. We all know you have those meat curtains flapping down low.
Mason Myers
Aren’t you trans?
Jordan Lopez
>Will I stop making this significant progress then though? Yes, your lifts will stall, and then they'll go back up when you bulk next winter.
Jordan Wilson
You honestly sound like you want to justify your overeating because you workout 3 times a week and havent gotten the results you want. Truth is you need to go on a diet. Call it a cut call it what you will.