The new year is almost upon us...

The new year is almost upon us, and that means online fucking apps (I refuse to call them online dating apps) will be in full force, filled with lonely women who just realized they were alone for the holidays. Blackdragon, the expert on this stuff, notes that he gets 3x the results in January from apps as any other time of the year.

If you want to take advantage of this, here's what you should do:

Prerequisites

Fulfill at least half of the below requirements, roughly in order of importance:

• 5+/10 face (the most important factor; if you are below a 5/10 facially you should move to another country or try daygame)
• 5+/10 body
• White
• 5'9" or over
• Decent style (e.g. new, well-fitted clothes, hair and facial grooming)
• Under age 35
• Live in a city of more than 150,000 people

If you are lacking in one or more of these factors, improve the controllables (e.g. lift, lose body fat, buy new clothes, get a haircut, move, etc.) and once you're ready, implement the below.

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twitter.com/AnonBabble

Photos

Assemble four to six photos of yourself of the below archetypes. These photos must not be selfies, and ideally should be taken with a DSLR by someone that knows what they're doing.

If you don't have these photos, talk to your photographer friend, or hire a photographer from Craigslist/Instagram. If you don't want to go this route, buy a cheap DSLR and a 50mm 1.8 lens from Craigslist, buy the cheapest tripod you can find on Amazon, buy a DSLR remote, and take the photos yourself.

The first bullet is required, you can pick and choose from the rest:

Upper-body shot of just you. Ideally taken with a DSLR with you in focus with a blurred, interesting background, wearing nicely-styled clothes (a suit if you're over 25, a button-down or something else nice if you're under 25).
You with a dog or some other sort of animal. Only do this if you actually like animals.
You with a group of friends. You should be as tall or taller and as attractive or more attractive than every friend in the photo. All of your friends must be decently attractive and not low-status (i.e. if this photo was taken at an anime convention, you're toast).
You doing [insert hobby here]. Snowboarding, DJing, skydiving, climbing, playing a high-status sport (sorry, Magic: The Gathering doesn't count).
You in an exotic location.
You doing something that indicates you're a leader of men. Holding a microphone, giving a speech, standing on stage, etc.
A candid, shirtless photo (e.g. playing sports, on a beach). If you cannot bench your bodyweight and/or squat/deadlift 1.75x your bodyweight AND are less than 18% bodyfat, skip this. If you don't have a candid shirtless photo, a non-candid is OK, but you'll get worse results.

Once you have the photos, pick out 10-12 that you think are good and send them to three girls you've hooked up with in the past to get their advice on which to use. Close female friends are a decent secondary options. Photofeeler is a distant third.

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General App Setup

Create a fake Gmail account.
Use the fake Gmail account to create a fake Facebook account with a photo of a male model and your real first and last name (you don't have to use your last name if you're not using Hinge). If you're 28-35 and want to fuck 18-22 year olds, put your age as 27. This has the added advantage of giving you a 50% discount on Tinder Plus, as we'll see later.
Go to a random page in the Philippines and add 500 random Filipinos until you have 100 Facebook friends. This is needed to bypass Facebook account verification for Tinder.

Tinder and the like are boring as hell.

Not if you get pussy it isn't.

OP has some solid advice here.

Ripped straight from trp
works

Tinder

1. Download Tinder and sign up with your fake email address.
2. Tap "Get Tinder Plus" and purchase Plus. If you're under 28, this should cost $9.95 a month. If you're 28 or over, this will set you back $19.95 a month.
3. Upload the photos you picked out in the photos section. Leave Smart Photos on.
4. Write a short, positive, non-needy bio that demonstrates higher value, e.g. "Dog whisperer. World traveler, last three trips were to Bali, Australia, and New Zealand. Avid cook, I guarantee my bacon risotto is better than yours."
5. Link your Instagram only if you have over 1000 followers and/or you have interesting photos that show a high-value lifestyle (e.g. travel, parties, friends).
6. Go to settings and set your distance range to the furthest range you think a girl would be willing to travel to meet you. Use the Gmaps Radius tool to figure out what the radius of your surrounding area is.
7. Set your age range to 18 at the low end and whatever the age of the oldest woman you'd have sex with is at the high end.
8. Go to www.tind3r.com and set up the Chrome extension so you can swipe and message from your computer.
9. Start swiping with Tind3r. Your minimum for a right swipe would be a girl you'd have sex with if they were to come directly to your house with no monetary investment from you. Do not swipe right on every girl, it brutalizes your private Tinder "Elo score".

Tinder Continued...

10. Don't read bios or look at closely at photos or Instagrams. You should spend less than a second looking at each profile's photos before determining how to swipe. I can swipe about 75 girls a minute accurately with Tind3r and double that using my phone. This means, assuming 5000 girls are in your area, you should only need to waste about ten minutes a day swiping.
11. Every day, use your 5 superlikes on girls you think are just out of your range. E.g. if you generally fuck 5s and 6s, use superlikes on 6.5s and the odd 7.
12. Swipe only during idle time, i.e. when you're on public transportation or on the toilet.
13. On Sunday between 8 and 10 AM, use your one free monthly Boost, which will put your profile at the top of every girl's stack in your area for 30 minutes. You don't have to swipe during this Boost, it doesn't have any effect on the matches you'll get.

>• 5+/10 body
>• White
>• 5'9" or over
>• Decent style (e.g. new, well-fitted clothes, hair and facial grooming)
>• Under age 35
ayyyyyyyyyy
>5+/10 face
lmaooooo xD
3/10 master race here fegits

Bumble

1. Download Bumble and sign up with your fake email address.
2. Upload the same photos and use the same bio as you did on Tinder. If you linked your Instagram on Tinder, mention it in your bio.
3. Use the same distance and age settings that you did on Tinder.
4. For Bumble, you're going to autoswipe. First, download AutoHotKey on your computer. Edit AutoHotKey.ahk and paste the following in: pastebin.com/4XiZHpNd
5. Download BlueStacks, an Android emulator. Run through the setup.
6. Download Bumble on your BlueStacks instance. Log in with your fake email address.
7. In the bottom right, click on the icon of the keyboard and map "r" to "Swipe Up" and "g" to Swipe Right.
8. While on the swipe screen, hit F7. Let the autoswiper run until you run out of profiles to swipe on (you won't be able to use your computer while you do this, so use a different computer or run it overnight).

Fuck you

Hinge

1. Download Hinge and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos you did with Tinder, but remove any shirtless photos if they're not candid.
3. If you're under 5'10", add an inch to your height.
4. If you have a medium to high-status job, list it.
5. If you went to college, list it.
6. Answer three of the questions in a witty, intellectual way. Use good grammar and proofread for spelling.
7. Start viewing profiles. Never like any of the photos of the girls, but rather their questions directly (shows interest in their "mind" rather than their appearance).
8. Don't waste your time leaving a comment with your like unless you have something interesting to say (e.g. if she says she wants to go to Ecuador on her bucket list, mention that you just got back from there).

fuck you

Coffee Meets Bagel

1. Download Coffee Meets Bagel and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos you did with Hinge.
3. Follow the same Hinge guidelines about height, job and education.
4. Use the same questions you answered for Hinge but warp the answers to fit Coffee Meets Bagel's scheme for "I am...", "I like..." and "I appreciate when my date..."
5. Go to suggested and like all the Bagels you'd have sex with.
6. Go to discovery and like girls until you run out of beans.
7. Repeat this process every day at noon (when your bagels have been replenished).

Happn

1. Download Happn and sign in with your fake email address.
2. Use the same photos and bio you did with Tinder. If you linked your Instagram to Tinder, link it here as well.
3. If you never leave your house, sign out of Happn on your phone and sign into Happn on BlueStacks. Use the BlueStacks location feature to change your location to where hot girls live/work/hang out. Change your location once a day.

App Messaging

If you're playing this right, matches should be rolling in on all of your apps. You're going to use the exact same openers and messaging format for every app.

1. Open a girl with a non-needy, *unique *opener (I'm not going to post examples here, because if I do they'll start getting used and not be unique anymore). The opener should ideally assume something about her and end in a question mark, but doesn't have to.
2. Gauge her response, and write back, using less text than her. If she hasn't asked you a question (what I call the hook point), provide some information, like a Demonstration of higher-value about yourself, and ask her another question.
3. If she's asking you questions back, you have a green light. Respond something like "That sounds cool, we should grab a drink. I'm free [x] or [y] day, let me know what works for you." Based on her response, tell her where and when to meet you.
4. If she's not asking you questions back, you have a yellow light. Keep DHVing and teasing her for a few more lines until you get her to invest. If she's not investing but still responding, hit her with the date pitch after a maximum of five messages from each of you.
5. If she's being combative, you have a red light. Stay non-reactive and playful. Keep DHVing and teasing her until you have a yellow or a green light, at which point you should pitch the date.

How cruel a world this is.

fuck

Other tips:

1. Ignore any rules about waiting a certain amount of time to text back. The minute you match with a girl, you are already fighting a losing battle against her attention. Reply back as soon as possible and keep her engaged.
2. If a girl stops responding, wait 2-3 days (at least) and hit her back with a funny respawn text teasing her for disappearing. I'm not going to post mine, but if she's riding a horse in her profile, here's a mediocre example: ", did you fall off your horse and die? Let me know where I should send flowers." Do this twice, and wait 2-3 days between each message. If she doesn't respond, leave her and work another girl.
3. Burn every lead to the ground. You should be messaging and scheduling dates with every girl you match with in order to cultivate abundance.

If you want examples, I recommend the breakdowns on Playing with Fire. He's the only guy I know that provides full screenshots of all his messages from opener to sex (keep in mind, however, that he is above average looks and runs shirtless photo + explicit bio game. If you're average, you can't expect these results, but his messaging is good).

Copy/pasted from other thread cause no answer

Is tinder totally pay to win now? I had an account a year or two ago before they just started introducing the boosts and tinder+. Just redownloaded a week ago. I'm fit, tall, moderately attractive with good photos/bio. I got lots of matches when I had tinder but now I got one after a week.

I feel like my profile is at the bottom of some list and not even getting seen by girls or bots for that matter. I might need to raise my elo but it is impossible if no one is even swiping on me.

fucker

Weekly Routine

The above will cover you for the first week. After that, you'll notice that your matches are going to fall off. This is because Tinder and Bumble give newbies an early boost to get their profiles shown to more people. So every Sunday night, here's what you're going to do:

1. Create a new fake Gmail account and Facebook event, and add 100 friends again.
2. Go into your Bumble and Tinder accounts associated with your old fake email and hide the profiles to the public. This will make it so you can still chat with your old matches, but won't have two profiles up at once.
3. Create new Bumble and Tinder accounts. Follow the exact same methods as you did last week regarding using your Tinder Boost and autoswiping on Bumble, but tweak your photos/bio using feedback from the last week.

It should take less than an hour to do this each week, but you'll get 50% more matches, not only with the newbie boost, but also because you'll be shown to different girls each week due to the random nature of Tinder.

Results

Number of matches per week is going to completely depend on physical attractiveness and quality of profile, as well as your sexual market value in your city compared to the male competition on the apps.

Here are my average weekly results as an average-looking guy in San Francisco, the hardest city in the United States for average guys:

• 52 matches (30 from Tinder, 7 messages from Bumble, 13 from Hinge, 1 from CoffeeMeetsBagel, 1 from Happn)
• 36 matches worth opening (rest were errant swipes or I had buyers remorse)
• 17 matches reply
• 5 matches schedule a date
• 2 matches actually show up to the date (the rest flake or logistics don't work)

Two dates a week is on the low end for cultivating abundance, so if you're getting worse results than this, something is wrong. You need to improve your sexual market value, photos, openers, or messaging.

It's impossible to provide generic troubleshooting steps because every guy will have different problems.

Finally, you'll notice I didn't provide any information for what to actually do on a date. That's because this has been written about extensively by other guys. I recommend Blackdragon or JMULV for more on that.

Fuck this is too much effort just for a slight hope of getting pussy
This a depressing thread ťbh like said

Just meet girls outside. Talk to them, if you get rejected move on to the next.

Meant not

Just become a cute anime boy and go for the weeb girls, geez its so easy.

thanks for the redpills

>Upper-body shot of just you. Ideally taken with a DSLR with you in focus with a blurred, interesting background

i got a great amount of matches with only one good pic of myself like this, some girls thought i was a fake profile tho

it can actually be as easy as you want it to be. you can use OP's 45 step system, or just do what it says in and most likely have much better interactions with girls you're more compatible with.

Yeah, I'm having the same problem. I still get matches, but I use to get a shit load more. I think it's all gated behind that boost bullshit these days.

that's 1 funny lookin baby right thurr

Think long term.

Two dates a week at minimum. Do that for 12 weeks.
That's 24 dates that you orchestrated.

Think about how much experience you're getting over the average guy when you have 24 dates. How many dates do you think the average guy on Veeky Forums gets in 12 weeks? He doesn't get those numbers in a year. He may not even get those numbers in 5 years.

You're not going to pull 24 dates in 12 weeks with real life approaches. Real life approaches () are way too time consuming to pull that volume. You leave real life, social circle approaches for quality. Those happen organically, when you are improving your life and socializing. In addition, 24 dates in 12 weeks will get you the experience you need to not get BTFO.

In one quarter of a year, you've accelerated you're social experience, confidence, and skill with women past 75% of autismos out there. And you got laid.

>lifting for 3D sluts
Pathetic desu

I've gotten maybe 2 matches in the last month.

Reminder that tinder isn't for dating, it's a video game for swiping and sending people funny messages and then you have sex at the end sometimes

>putting this much effort into women

jesus fuckin christ man if you need poon, go to the local bar and fuck some random slut if you're too lazy for that just have a wank

not like anyone worthwhile for ltrm relationships are on tinder anyway

Do you have professional photos?
Are you in the best shape of your life?
Have you read neuromarketing blogs to understand how to stand out?
Have you done the account reset method outlined above?
Do your pictures highlight your social life?

This isn’t a helpful guide at all, autist. Don’t listen to this guy if you want to get laid.

Doggo cannot be immuned.

I found out the hard way that if you swipe right on every girl to increase your chances, tinder thinks you're a bot and stops showing your profile

it has pretty intense algorithms trying to match your attractiveness to your girls attractiveness so there could always be some glitch there, i.e. you're getting shown to girls out of your league

Your post reads like a desperate crab-in-the-bucket technique.

>Don't listen! Don't! Don't look! Stop it! Stop! NoooooooooO!!!!!!

Is this the cringe thread?

FUCKING CUNT

Ok but what if want to go for art hoes and filter out Stacy, are these guidelines still useful?

lmao.

Online
>Initial time investment of creating good photos that you can use for literally years
>Setup a new tinder in the time it takes you to drive anywhere
>Have access to hundreds, if not thousands of female suitors
>Can spam the same, low effort gambit over and over again
>Create the date on literally your own terms, doing whatever you want
>Can easily try new things and statistically be able to tell what is working
>Easiest path from interaction to consensual sex in the entire history of humanity

Not my mommy

at least its white

Same here. We're in elohell

>Easiest path from interaction to consensual sex in the entire history of humanity
maybe if you're a 10/10 chad?
otherwise that's not even remotely true

bars, clubs, brothels, parties, these are where 99% of sex happens for average guys

if you look up dating app statistics its like the top 5% of guys who get all the matches and even then you have to make the leap from virtual to physical which takes way more effort

this kind of PUA stuff is just for awkward guys mad desperate for sex which ironically are the ones least likely to get laid on dating apps

wtf are hinge, coffee meets bagel and happn. Are these even worth the effort? I can't imagine there being many people using these compared to tinder.

fucking this. I approached it like this after a while and realized that tinder is easy as fuck if you dont take it serious

It depends if you can get sex from the 24 dates.
Realistically, probably 10+ will be failures because of autismo or the girl didn't look like her pictures.

Also, if you're looking for an actual girlfriend. Tinder and Bumble are not the place to go. Since those are only for one night stand sluts.

Avoid being the following person and your life will improve:

>Sees thing takes barely any effort, but effort none the less
>Get mad
>Enter thread and start trying to explain how anyone who even looks at an online dating app is spending to much effort and how all real men go to [CLICHE LOCATION] to pick up women. Ignore the fact that you're making a false dichotomy and insist that you're a better person and that anyone using online is a creep PUA weirdo
>Over exaggerate the amount of effort that setting up effective online profiles takes
>Tell other people not to dare implement any of the steps of this thread in their life. Use fear to persuade them that they will be a loser if they do. This will make sure your competition doesn't get better/smarter, right?
>Never improve

Most people who don't care about online dating would have just scrolled past the thread.

Fucking hell.

>The new year is almost upon us, and that means online fucking apps (I refuse to call them online dating apps)
>that means online fucking apps (I refuse to call them online dating apps)
>online fucking apps
>refuse to call them online dating apps
>online
>fucking
>apps

What's the fucking point, reported

wtf

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I fucking hated minmaxing in Diablo, this is worse because I can't even gain Whirlwind.

ausismal levels of mad right here, you didn't even reply to my post

Faggot

>needing nonsensical bullshit to get laid
installed it a week ago for the lads & laffs, have a bunch of random numbers texting me every now and then because they never say which girl they are, so I don't respond. most were very boring if I did schedule lunch or coffee or whatever, had sex with a few, seeing one exclusively now

as far as advice, try not being a piece of shit that has done nothing with their lives, and people will like you. women included. it's depressing how much effort some dudes put into this nonsense, some people actually spend fucking cash money on an app.
come on bud, stop trying to force it.

I'm not even a chad, I just do interesting things and don't sound autistic when I talk to people, some of the guys on here are WAY better looking than I am and actually stick to a split that they follow religiously.

>this doesn't require effort for me
>i'm not even a chad
really makes you think

Mara you fucking witch.

if being chad means I have access to sex and a support network of friends, then sure. but I wasn't born a chad, at least I think, I became more comfortable in social settings and learned how to talk to women without having a creepy overtone to it

it's real fucking awkward when you're with a girl and the tinder sounds keep going off, but you dont want to climb off to put your phone on mute, though

Fuck you!

Peak autism

>using sex apps and contributing to the décline of sexual morality
>making it

ajj tesó

For real? I have around 50 FB friends. That's bollocks.

>all this just to pound a hole for 5 minutes

Fuck this. I’m gonna go work out

baszd meg :~DD
ironically the one gal from hungary I matched with was boring as FUCK with massive cakeface. lunch was terrible, she couldn't hold conversation worth fuckall, she asked if I wanted to do anything afterwards and I suggested we go to a local japanese minimart to buy candy. after that she again asked if I wanted to do anything else and I said "no but sorry you had to drive an hour out here" and then went home

Rossz kismalacz angol buzi

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>he only lasts 5 minutes

But you did what OP is talking about, with the pictures and description.

>try not being a piece of shit that has done nothing with their lives
best advice

>have ~900 matches on tinder
>haven't used in long-ass time, rarely responded to girls who messaged me, rarely messaged the girls who didn't

would it be wise to delete my profile and restart? or do i have some kind of Elo that makes it worth keeping?

also my shit started glitching when i switched from iphone to android. i would match with women and then they would disappear. wtF??

Ez mostantól egy magyar thread!

fuk u

>only use a single older picture where my fit body isnt really visible
>no bio
>rightswipe everything so probably in ELO hell
>rarely use Tinder at all
>still get a few matches
>a handfull even message first
>never respond because I doubt it would ever lead to anything

maybe I should get off my ass and take some new pics but I fucking hate getting pictures taken of me. probably still engraved in my mind from my days as a fatty. the only pictures I have are of me totally drunk, in a suit or shirtless in my homegym. rarely do I have a "normal" picture of myself because like I said I fucking hate it.

maybe I should just get a DSLR take a few good pics and see where it gets me...

Fugg

Should I just ignore Tinder if I'm trying to date and not just hookup?

What are some good dating alternative apps to Tinder?

oh yeah, I guess you're right
pretty good advice then, but it's through the lens of somebody attempting to minmax tinder as if it's a videogame, whereas it should just come naturally

depends on age but if you are early 20s, most people use tinder even for dating. It has the largest user base for sure.

Okcupid/plentyoffish seem like decent dating sites depending on your area.

you guys think if I take a pic where I bench 3pl8 or squat 4pl8 it would impress girls ? or would they just think I am a massive showoff and autist ?

reployed

Depends on if you look swole/good in the photo desu. I think it is alright though

>but I fucking hate getting pictures taken of me
I agree bro, it all seems like a huge vanity exercise to me
I only tolerate being in group photos so I can blend in with normies and I hate taking photos of myself

Is this a good strategy for a profile?

depends on your facial aesthetics desu, if they're fine then just have a normal shot where your gains are still evident but not too in-your-face. If you're ugly then show your benching pl8s. Some types of grills have mixed feelings about people who spend """too much""" time in the gym.

Why are Hungarians always so damn tall?

My gf is a 5'11 Hungarian and her bro is 6'9. I'm 5'9 and feel like a stunted mexican in their house.

No idea, I'm the manlet of the family. Cousins are all over 6'4
Though I suppose they are called Hung-Aryans for a reason, I think like 17cm is average length, perhaps it extends to other areas of life as well?

If you read this OP will die in his sleep tonight

what i want to know is how do you decide you'll really have sex with a woman based purely on a few text conversations online?

how do you know her smell, her mannerisms, what she likes? what you'd like to do with her? pictures can say a thousand words, sure, but there's a lot more to just being in someone's presence. how do you handle it?

the fucking picture

Fucking OP pic

That's not necessarily true. Generally speaking girls are tall. But guys are not, average male height around my uni is like 5'10.

Oh boyo no cool duderino