Does fapping to porn really damage your brain's reward system or is it just broscience cooked up by overthinking reddit...

Don't know for sure but it does release dopamine. If you're physically reacting to it in the same way you would while having sex I don't see how it couldn't re-wire your brain like the reddit autists claim. I did read a study before talking about how the reaction to watching was similar to cocaine addicts.
Keep in mind the YBOP crowd never actually started with scientific research and just looked for confirmation bias.

You ultimately go into a daydream state to get your nut while looking at porn so you're just asking for mental anguish and mental illness basically -- that would be exaggerated by watching pornography from third person view

What if you reward system never gets rewarded with real life pussy?

Its the only option for this over populated world where the majority of resources are held by the few.

There literally isn't enough resources to go around for men to attractive women, hence why women are always aiming up to the men with the all the resources while ignoring the guys with little or no resources.

So yeah whats the big deal, you watch porn and dont get pussy, or you dont watch porn and dont get pussy anyway, wow nice trade bro!

But if it had a similar effect on the brain as cocaine then wouldn't you feel a massive crash after watching porn? The only times I crashed after watching porn was years ago when I was sleeping like 5 hours a night and I was extremely sleep deprived. Now the only difference is that I'm not horny anymore after busting a nut to porn.
Unlike you sad faggots from /r9k/ I have real life goals that I'd like to achieve. I want to know if porn has any effect on my motivation to achieve these goals.

It doesn't.
Now go do whatever you need to do and get off Veeky Forums.

It's literally men with no libido telling you masturbation is bad.

>is it just broscience cooked up by overthinking reddit faggots who need something to blame for them being betas
Uhh projecting much sweetie?

if you spent long periods of time stimulating your tastebuds in a certain way it would probably affect your sense of taste.

Doesn't mean that any changes are permanent, it's just debateable what is real sexual attraction vs what is chasing a novelty based dopamine high

Is that Michael Shank's wife?

Actually I am. I fell for the nofap meme back in 2013 when I was 17. For a couple of months I believed that nofap was the solution to all my problems.

Pseudoscience, literally no research say so.

Thank for clarification Mr. Soyberg

>If I seize the means of production from the bourgeoisie then the supermodels will love me
Was this Marx's goal?

she's so pretty

>When having sex or watching porn, dopamine is released into a region of the brain responsible for emotion and learning, giving the viewer a sense of sharp focus and a sense of craving: “I have got to have this thing; this is what I need right now.” It supplies a great sense of pleasure. The next time the viewer gets the “itch” for more sexual pleasure, small packets of dopamine are released in the brain telling the user: “Remember where you got your fix last time. Go there to get it.”
>Norepinephrine is also released, creating alertness and focus. It is the brain’s version of adrenaline. It tells the brain, “Something is about to happen, and we need to get ready for it.”
Sex or porn also trigger the release of oxytocin and vasopressin. These hormones help to lay down the long-term memories for the cells. They “bind” a person’s memories to the object that gave him or her the sexual pleasure.
>The body releases endorphins, natural opiates that create a “high,” a wave of pleasure over the whole body.
>After sexual release serotonin levels also change, bringing a sense of calm and relaxation.

Porn is bad for you, no exceptions.
Masturbation is fine and even good for you as long as you aren't addicted - can you go two weeks from today without fapping, edging or otherwise giving yourself pleasure? Try it and if the answer is no then you are an addict and you need to break the addiction.

A healthy man can't go two weeks without masturbating, you testless eunuch.

Fucking this. Lmao at people who go months without fapping and take pride in having low test.

I get physical pain down there if I go a day and a half without getting off. If you are going two weeks you should get checked to see if you are steril

that's not high test user, that's a bit fucked
I tried nofap once and got to six days before realising I was being a gay cunt so I jerked off and then felt no regret

t b h most people who obssess over this shit are participating in essentially flagellation

but they do without realising they trade one sin (masturbation) for another (intellectual masturbation)

it's a tragedy

Oy Vey!! Listen to this goy- er.. I mean guy, hes correct!

And kikes are getting her to do gross shit on screen
Im guessing they buy a ton of ikea furniture as well

It'll distort your vision of women and sex in general, while also fucking you up psychologically to an extent. Drop fapping to porn and use your imagination instead. Read erotic poetry/prose.

>that's not high test user, that's a bit fucked
It's normal to get pain and soreness if your balls fill up without release.

whats wrong with ikea you retard

You are overstimulating dopamine receptors which will render you addicted to porn, you will be unable to enjoy simple pleasures, you will prefer to be a spectator, you will have no motivation, you will have hormonal imbalances which fucks up your gainz, you will have a reduced sperm count, you will lose all your confidence, you will regret nutting, you will get fat, you will have bags under your eyes, you will have no energy, and worst of all--you will be stuck on this website forever.

tl;dr: Masturbation and porn are turning you into an emotionless lazy degenerate cuck who deserves a free helicopter ride.

Sort yourself out. Stop being a nu-male.

Broscience: the post - extreme He-man edition 2018

Just dont fap more than once a week and more than you fuck. Its fine and actually healthy for your prostate

This might sound retarded but I went one month without sex and my gainz were off the fucking roof.

no wonder she took a selfie with them out. they are glorious.

He sounded like he was quoting from fight club with the 'masturbation' bullshit

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They're not natty, user.

You better have some scientific proof to back that up. Also, that picture was most likely created by some skinny low test nu-male. I find it hard to believe that some true alpha would spend his time dwelling on that shit.

I just had sex. Had to jack myself off because my wife falls asleep after an orgasm. Then I laid in bed for about 30 minutes got up and jacked off about 3 more times to porn. I'll probably go jack off in the bathroom when I got to take a shit then have sex before I fall asleep at the end of the day.

If the jews are behind anything mentioned in this thread it's fucking nofap. Nofap turns young white socially stunted guys into sexually frustrated spergs who go on shooting sprees because they got tricked into removing the only sexual release they had in their sad lives.
Shut up, you're gonna make the nofappers chimp out if you keep talking like that.

If you have no GF -> Dont watch Porn

If you have a GF -> watch porn

Both cause watching Porn will makes you less horny to other women.

Nah, you're just a chronic masturbator

I have sex but I'm horny so I jack off. I lift and work a full time job. Most people here have full body fatigue which is usually caused by a bacterial infection and need 100 days of antibiotics to clear it up. But they blame it on masturbating. Because most people here are shut ins that larp about working out and can't leave the computer for more than 10 minutes.

yeah yeah keep going full retard.
NOFAP IS KEY FOR SUCCESS you will never fool me out of it.

At the end of the day your question doesn't matter. Porn satisfies you enough to get you through the day without an actual woman. The real question is whether thay is enough for you.

At least do the antibiotics. You'll see the results in 1 week.

This so much

>stopped jacking it to porn
>instead beat my meat to pictures of hot women (pic related)
>limit myself to fap only once a week after getting home from the gym
>erections start becoming stronger
>more precum production
>read about nofap
>try it out for 2 months because i have a death grip and hurt my penor once
>libido is off the fucking roof
>get a little bit more motivated and outgoing
>can't concentrate at college because all the girls in my courses wearing nice clothes during summer
>get wet dreams about sex
>wake up with precum in my boxers
>get hard blue balls
>can't stand it anymore and edge every now and then to my imagination in the shower (deleted all pictures of hot women from my phone at this point)
>accidentally nut
>fucking huge load of pearl white stiff cum (before nofap it was a watery mess)
>best nut i had since being 16
>felt masculine afterwards
I don't care about whether nofap has benefits or not
I tried it out and it felt great so i started again
Hopefully i can bring myself up to finally ask out my crush

What's the difference between rubbing one out with just my fantasy and rubbing one out with the assistance of porn?

> but what does muh science say
Why the fuck don't you then go for a period with porn, then go for a period without, and keep detailed observations about both? You can see for yourself, and you'll get results which are tailored to you. What are you expecting Veeky Forums to know that you can't find out for yourself, you lazy shit?

The most annoying side affect of jacking off is the death grip.

Nothing is worse than months of fapping then having sex with a girl. But you can't finish. Then she asks you "Is it me?"

there's a decent screencap about how toxic porn is, but I've only seen it on /pol/.

You're talking about this one. But it doesn't mention anything about the brain's reward system.

>I've only seen it on /pol/.
Kindly fuck off back to there.

like i said your deceiving chad tricks wont work i am immune to that shit.
you are the type of dag who is afraid when the nerd gets ripped and swole like a motherfucker.

>toxic
Go back to fucking reddit.

I can go quite some time without fapping but only if there's no sexual stimuli. If it's been a few days without ejaculating and I find myself in a situation really close to attractive women and/or any kind of sexual touching I will get a horrific pain in my testicles by the end of the night if I don't ejaculate. Sometimes the ejaculation can be painful around my prostate/base of my penis but quickly subsides. woohoo.

>a bacterial infection and need 100 days of antibiotics to clear it up.

it makes you focus on the wrong things. you should be focusing on working hard on your own happiness, pleasure, relationships.

why would you work hard for pussy when you can cum looking at a porn whore instead? it fucks up your idea of working for pleasure.

not at all OP, watching videos of hot girls getting plowed by BBC everyday is good for your brain!

You murricans know most of porn doesn't have niggers, right?

if you dont look at porn or did something else, then maybe you would have never known the particular chick in the film you missed existed, and all the things that make her beautiful will never be aware to you if you never saw it

miss it at your own peril

it's a metaphor for you being a cuck. You're still touching yourself to a random dude fucking some chick

I feel like most of these guys who instantly start talking about BBC and degeneracy when you talk about porn secretly jerk off to interracial shit.

>The "rerouting" boogeyman is total fiction
>I think slippery slope is real where you gradually get off to increasingly fucked up things

Okay. Let’s pretend this isn’t a rerouting of some sort. The reward function of your brain is essentially changing because it’s demanding an increased stimulus.

The claims are at partially valid by your own observations. Are you just hung up on definitions while acknowledging there’s truth in the concept?

You're identifying with the guy, you cuck moron.

This
That's why VR porn is a thing

Rerouting synapses is entirely real you retard

If i don't jerk off i get wet dreams, anyone else?

From my own experience yeah, libido goes up if i don't masturbate or watch porn and sex feels waaay better, also it took me forever to cum during sex when i used to jerk it to porn.

See how quickly you resort to more extreme porn and masturbation methods because jerking it to porn gets dull and boring.

Porn does effect your ability to be in the moment with a partner, because you're habituated to specific scenarios in your head instead of improvising to how things play out in practice.

Also, intermittent nofap isn't a meme.

When done almost daily, yes.

sure but if I avoid porn it gets much rarer

this is true. i basically jerked off every night since the age of 13 or 14, and I barely enjoyed any sexual experience (anything from kissing to actually fucking) since i started. Feels bad, man

Yes, it is pretty simple, think about all the shit that you need to do in real life to pound even a 7/10 into complete submission - competing with other males, showing dominance, flauting status, etc.
Now, replace all that hard work (that come with gains greater than sex) with a 10s search and click. Realize that your body got all kinds of mechanisms to get you out of depression and beta male status, and that none of them will be turned on if body believes that he is pounding sweet ass and breeding.
You are literally sabotaging yourself by even masturbating - two weeks without ejaculating while constantly interacting with females will awaken things in you that you did not even believe possible.
Just stop being a cuck and go fuck real humans.

>alpha male : views women as partners

Yeah whoever wrote that shit is fucking retarded

my dick and libido is healthiest when i limit masturbation to maybe 3-4 times a weak. mostly to pictures, and no longer than 15 minutes. the problem starts when you spend your free time searching for porn and saving it, and you have marathon 2+ hour sessions a day, and it's all hardcore video.

nowadays i barely need to grip my penis because i'm so sensitive, just fingertips to move the foreskin a little.

i've tried long nofap streaks of 50+ days and it was nice for a while but i started to become uninterested in sex. occasionally now i will go without fapping for like 5 days or so.

everything in moderation

t. betamax

jews use porn as a weapon against non jews. they own the whole industry. during war with palestine they broadcasted porn on television

Yes, it is a serious problem. Leading child psychiatrists and pediatricians are beginning to call it an epidemic due to its effects on the brains of children.

Well

My dick works fine, morning wood is firm and during porn I like its diamonds.

Jerking w/o porn its ok

Having sex is..... goes from firm for 20 seconds to mushy to limp...till I have to start fantasizing to get it hard again

15 years of being a beta porn addict.. pixels do it for me, not people

I tried No fap reseting for like half a year and on the otherside I still couldn't get hard from sex

Let me be a warning to some lf you (if porn doesn't effect you congrats)

I don't have any scientific evidence just an anecdote here, I only started fapping a year ago(I'm 18) and since then I've been getting very tired, falling asleep throughout the day and my head foggy, I did nofap(relapsed after 2 weeks) but in that time I felt much more confidence, wasn't getting tired, my mind was clearer and I could think better. I'm going to do it again now and hopefully stick with it for the next 3 months

you seriously need to avoid porn. when you did nofap, did you completely cut out porn, or did you look at it now and again to 'test' your boners?
you sound pretty far gone. you need a proper 3 month or longer reboot.

this is retarded

I was pretty disciplined, didnt look at any stimulus

I might try it again because at this point porn/fapping adds about 3 seconds of enjoyment to my day even at its best

this is me

look up "neurons that fire together, wire together". it's an accepted fact of neuroscience. the most basic and easiest fact of neurosci to remember.

i'm not a neuroscientist but i took a few courses and learned about brain/mind relations.

in my opinion, and based on the fact stated above, which you can jewgle search yourself, there is negative impact on your brain from fapping to porn. why? simple. because your brain is being conditioned/programmed to get off on the behavior of WATCHING rather than DOING the act itself.

i had a pretty bad porn habit and the only way i could nut whilst having regular sex was by watching myself fuck the girl through a mirror. i found it hard to cum if there was no mirror and i couldn't see myself banging her. so at that point my brain was wired to only orgasm if i see someone (either someone else in a video, or myself) fucking a girl.

nowadays, since i exercise more, eat better, sleep better, and cut down porn to almost zero, i can cum during normal sex just from the feel of her wet vagina. but yea at the peak of my porn problem, it was easier for me to cum from my hand due to the wiring-together effect.

if you absolutely must jack off, due to the economic reasons you stated (which i agree with), then you are better off using a fleshlight or something like that. there are generic fleshlights that can be purchased easily for less than $20. i haven't tried it myself but thinking about it, because jacking off with my hand feels very gay.

Ignore all that brain reward shit.
You're literally sitting in front of your computer stroking your cock to the image of ANOTHER man fucking a girl

You're a cuckold if you watch porn

I jack it every single day and I never have a problem getting off or getting hard during sex, even when after ejaculating 4+ times in a single day
I'm not a neuroscientist either but I know you're chatting shit

good for you, perhaps you're an exception to the rule.

i didn't say i have problems getting hard, just the orgasm is either delayed, or weak. but that's me. if beating your dick off every day is fine for you, go for it.

Look up e Michael jones author of libido dominandi. Beginner video explanation -theory of porn as a means of political suppression and subversion youtu.be/O2uKC-YjtpU

Hypothetically it can mess up your reward system because it's a quick way to get off on hot chicks. I counteract that by mainly fapping to fat chicks that I would never touch in real life to prevent myself going off the rails. I also mainly stick to girls only scenes and very little actual porn. That means I can still get an erection off a tinder profile and I don't need ultra hardcore shit to get off or get an erection.

lol its not about getting off because another dude is fucking a random girl,its about how visual pleasing her face looks while she is beeing fucked it's about her body etc you also imagine yourself fucking that girl,if you have a cuckold fetish you can watch it in a different way,there is actual cuckold pron.I think watching porn is a healthy thing and also masturbating is healthy.But it seems that I can't get off without porn or sex with just my own imagination and I don't know if that's good or bad and why.