Veeky Forums's Girlfriends - Gym Beginner Edition

How does Veeky Forums deal with their gym newbie girlfriends? I just have to get this off my shoulders because I don't want to talk to any of my friends about this

>girlfriend wants to sign up for a gym membership
>take her to my gym because she wants to try it
>already been to a gym with her before and she refused to improve her form and do actual exercises
>told her that she was being stupid later on and she said it was only because I was being rude
>go with her to my gym and show her workouts
>she wants to do machines because she thinks beginners should only do machines, ergo she doesn't want to put in effort
>show her some workouts which she refuses to do with proper form
>tell her nicely how to improve her form
>she gets angry after a while because she can't get it right even though I tell her it's okay since she's a beginner
>this goes on the entire time since she's either way too fast, doesn't focus on the workout (looks around while not breathing properly) or just makes up some excuses for why she can't do the workout properly
>wants to do ab workouts which there are only two machines for which she doesn't like
>leg raises are too hard for her so I tell her we can do crunches together
>puts arms behind her head and does two reps a second (pic related only worse)
>tell her to stop pushing her head with her hands but instead keep the hands to the side and do the crunches slowly
>gets upset and asks for us to go

fuck me. I was trying to be really nice and understanding but I can't just let her do everything wrong. am I an asshole for trying to push her to improve her form instead of letting her do it wrong? is it wrong of me to try and show her workouts that aren't based on machines? I feel like she's in the wrong here big time but maybe I'm just too much of a strict smartass who is too focused on non-machine workouts

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Dont take the bird to the gym, she will only hinder you. She'll go on her own if she really wants to.

>bird
Fuck off britfag, it's a chick

she already told me that she also wants to go alone but I can't stand the thought that my girlfriend would be doing her workouts either half assed or plain wrong. I mean there are courses are nice and all but what about the rest?

Get her to video her form and then tell her how to fix. If she doesnt listen thats her choice. Nobody has perfect form to start with however

>Doing crunches with your arms anywhere but crossed on your chest
I bet you put the plate behind your neck or some shit if you want to weight them

Also stop being a faggot and let her do machines/core for a few months so she is actually somewhat prepared for compounds without shit form.

thing is I have to tell her several times in one set that she is changing to a shitty form. I don't mind telling her even a thousand times but her getting angry just ruins my mood.
I didn't have perfect form when I started but I was always willing to do what others told me to do and accept opinions of others who have been working out longer than me. she was literally trying to tell me that I was wrong when I told her that pressing our head forward while doing crunches is bad for her

My girlfriend wanted to lift with me and she let me design her routine. It took a few sessions but she's learned most of the important barbell and dumbbell compounds. She goes regularly with or without me and does her program.

I've trained several others how to squat/deadlift/bench/OHP/etc. so she thinks I'm good at explaining. Maybe you need to be better at explaining or get a less spoiled gf (hint: mine's russian)

Been in the same situation, only I was the girlfriend.

Firstly, she needs to be genuinely interested and want to improve herself. If she's doing it for you, she'll fail and it will hurt your relationship.

Secondly, regarding being snappy and not listening to your feedback, it has a lot to do with pride. You are somewhat equal in the relationship and in the gym, it is your place, you are better at it than she is, and you are telling her what to do. Even if she knows that you are right, it's uncomfortable and hurts her pride.
This will get better as she gets better and if she starts doing her own research and asking you on her own, you've won. Also, talk about it outside the gym, it will help her vent her frustration and she might admit that she's been behaving like an idiot. I did.

This one might be hard, but in case you know a coach/PT that you trust (I've seen a lot of idiots just hurting their clients), consider putting her into their hands - she will accept their opinions easier than yours. That's nothing personal, it's just human psychology - you will always trust and respect a stranger you've paid for more than someone you know well. Might solve the machine issue and bad form.

You are not the asshole objectively, but she just can't handle how superior you act (and are) in the gym, which makes you an asshole in her eyes. Talk about it outside the gym, encourage her to do her own research and wait, it will get better if she sticks to it. Dump if she doesn't and/or if you don't like her that much.

she did them with crossed arms while doing crunches on a decline bench, yet did them wrong on a mat

>Also stop being a faggot and let her do machines/core for a few months so she is actually somewhat prepared for compounds without shit form.
I thought so too but she's basically trying to only do ab workouts while I'm trying to convince her of doing all body parts. I'm pissed as she's been together with me for years and I have always been telling her how important it is to work out the entire body

>Maybe you need to be better at explaining
that was my first thought but then I remember how other people I have instructed have all tried to improve their form without whining

>or get a less spoiled gf
I feel like she's not willing to take criticism by me which wouldn't get me mad usually but she takes criticism by anyone else without saying a thing

maybe compromise by letting her fuck around and do whatever exercises she wants, as long as she finds one exercise for each major muscle group. This way she won't feel like you're controlling her and it's for the sake of her health and muscular balance

btw at first my gf really sucked at squats so I gave her options like smith machine squats or kettlebell squats/lunges. Suggest easier things for her to start with if she's impatient with learning the form on the big 4.

she does want to improve herself. I have been trying to get her to work out for years but only now has she showed some intrinsic motivation.

>pride
I'm actually so much of a retard that I haven't even thought of that point of view. I mean she usually just doesn't like me telling her what to do but what you said seems to check out 100%. I just wish she'd at least give me some props for me taking time for her and actually knowing what the fuck I'm talking about. instead, there was no thanks and only saying that I don't know what the hell I'm talking about

>but in case you know a coach/PT that you trust
I definitely want to let her do her next workout with a PT (female) anyway but I'm afraid they won't tell her to improve jack shit.

>You are not the asshole objectively, but she just can't handle how superior you act (and are) in the gym, which makes you an asshole in her eyes. Talk about it outside the gym
yeah, been thinking about bringing up the issue tomorrow. as it stands, I'm majorly disappointed by her behaviour

>encourage her to do her own research and wait
there's no way she'll do her own research but I'll try

>Dump if she doesn't and/or if you don't like her that much
been together with her for years like I said before. it still makes me furious that she thinks that's an appropriate way to act towards me

>maybe compromise by letting her fuck around and do whatever exercises she wants
I might do that. if she tells someone that I never help her though because of that, I might just lose myself

I suggested regular squats but she seems to be convinced that she needs machines. fuck, I've been shitting on machines for such a long time and she still hasn't got that into her brain

>dates shitty American girl
>wonders why she's a shitty American girl in the gym, too

Simple fact is she doesn't respect you.

I'm actually a eurofag, as is my girl

>girlfriend

>tfw it's a Veeky Forums thinks missing out on a relationship is a bad thing episode

my gf said she wanted to go to the gym. she has a membership and I don't I just encouraged her to do it. I only do sports (mainly judo) and regular bw exercises (pushups, situps, handstand push ups and chin ups) so I just see her when she comes back sweaty and massage her when she aches the next day. here is my two pence on how to avoid these problems: don't go to the gym with your gf

>I'm pissed as she's been together with me for years and I have always been telling her how important it is to work out the entire body
ahh, I see what you are trying to do, you are making the common error of trying to apply logic and reason to a woman's decision making process. stop.

>I definitely want to let her do her next workout with a PT (female) anyway but I'm afraid they won't tell her to improve jack shit.

well, if the PT doesn't care about you gf's form, it is a really, really bad one. Hopefully you won't encounter that (those people should be fired) - I'd be more afraid of picking someone who makes her do bw squats with one leg on a bosu ball and encourages machines.

>yeah, been thinking about bringing up the issue tomorrow. as it stands, I'm majorly disappointed by her behaviour
let us know how it went

>there's no way she'll do her own research but I'll try
doesn't need to be reading academic papers right away, but there are some relatively no-bullshit people on instagram who post intelligent stuff.. sometimes. that could be a start
instagram.com/kristinaverra/ (I rly, rly recommend this one)
instagram.com/carmelrodriguezfit/?hl=cs (she's pretty cool too)
instagram.com/erinstern5/?hl=cs (might be "too much" but she seems to know what she's doing)

>I feel like she's not willing to take criticism by me which wouldn't get me mad usually but she takes criticism by anyone else without saying a thing
get someone else to tell her then? i don't know how but maybe you could work out a way to do this without being cucked or bitched about(which lowers your value). I am being overly paranoid but don't forget about it just in case

dude just let her do her thing and get to love working out on her own. she has to learn for herself what she enjoys doing most and how to do it. once she wants to really improve she will come to you

>girlfriend
more like gainz goblin am i right?

Brah, if she can't handle this light of criticism from you without getting pissy, she's 1. a child and 2. doesn't respect you, which is why it makes her angry that you think you can explain something to her. ABORT

>don't go to the gym with your gf
I'll talk to her about it first and wait for her reaction. If she doesn't understand why I'm pissed, I'll tell her that I won't be joining her anymore

>you are making the common error of trying to apply logic and reason to a woman's decision making process
I have always had this problem. I'm always trying to be chill and understanding but some things even annoy me

>well, if the PT doesn't care about you gf's form, it is a really, really bad one
95% of people that I see doing workouts have a shitty form to begin with. I have been doing research for years and actually know my shit. problem is making total beginners do what you want them to do. at least the PTs at my gym only tell people to do some vanilla machine exercises

>let us know how it went
I'll try to

>but there are some relatively no-bullshit people on instagram who post intelligent stuff
she doesn't use instagram (neither do I)

I really can't except for if a PT does it naturally but I might just go full retard and tell her that a gym is the wrong place for her if she refuses to think that other people's opinions are worth less than hers

Let her break her leg at the leg press then she will learn user. Plus we are running low on the webm supply.

seems to be the only option if she doesn't see fails to admit her mistake

she's a very independent person and usually does everything on her own. I can understand this being a new situation for her but I still demand some respect in a relationship so she should know better. hell, I'd be willing to end a relationship due to lack of respect but she'll get a pass first because I'm not the person to act purely on feelings

kek, she actually told me "if there's one thing I remember from our last workout, it's that I should never lock my legs"

Damn it, looks like you are either going to have to commit for real to helping her out, or just give up on her in the gym and tell her off. Everytime I see a leg press set, I feel as if my leg is broken and lose all my desire for working out for the day.

progressive calisthenics you retard
fuck your crunches too, get an ab wheel
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My gf actually told me not to lose weight ( by that I mean muscle) I came back from xmas hols pretty buff from regular gym and some oral steroids (fuck off /fraud/ I ain't pinning test in my parents house when I share a room with my brother) and she compared me to the legend that is Arnie. but she likes it

>at least the PTs at my gym only tell people to do some vanilla machine exercises
oh. good luck with this one then

>she doesn't use instagram (neither do I)
oh, in that case, idk, sorry

>doing research for years and actually know my shit
>hell, I'd be willing to end a relationship due to lack of respect but she'll get a pass first because I'm not the person to act purely on feelings
you seem to have a lot in common with my bf. this thing worked out for us, hope it will work out for you two too.

SS+GOCAD (glass of cum a day)

>I'll talk to her about it first and wait for her reaction
good plan
>I'm always trying to be chill and understanding but some things even annoy me
i feel that brah, try to look from her perspective more and work out what she wants
>she doesn't use instagram (neither do I)
comfy, i don't but my gf does, am jealous
>I might just go full retard and tell her that a gym is the wrong place for her if she refuses to think that other people's opinions are worth less than hers
never go full retard. Picture her as more of a child who knows no better

funny thing is that she loved doing squats at home but instantly wanted to go to the leg press at the gym. it makes no motherfucking sense

I literally showed her that pic two years ago and she said she didn't have the equipment for it (go figure) and now that she does, she wants to do machines

thanks, I'll try to make the best of it

I tried to but it won't get her anywhere. there's not a single woman I know that DIDN'T start out with the instant gratification thought process so I gotta change her mindset from the very beginning. I know that it isn't easy for her but I try to teach her the things that nobody taught me back in the day. user's advice from above (pride) sounds decent so I'll try to tackle it from that POV

>never go full retard. Picture her as more of a child who knows no better
>tfw every woman in every new situation is like that
goddammit, why does it always have to be so complicated?

>funny thing is that she loved doing squats at home but instantly wanted to go to the leg press at the gym. it makes no motherfucking sense
get some free weights
>why does it always have to be so complicated?
this is how all interpersonal relationships are user, we just have to get used to it. Just remember to always try and see both your perspective and hers, using this find out what she wants. Be hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise. people cannot take criticism

>mfw people treat this as an acceptable way for women to act
>mfw its ok for a grown person to be this immature and entitled

>get some free weights
I offered her mine but she refused. at the gym, she doesn't want to because she's a beginner. I feel as if especially beginners should start with light free weights but she doesn't understand my logic

>people cannot take criticism
I refuse to believe this. I always listen to other people's opinions and weigh on whether said criticism can improve my life or not. other people are just too proud to take advice and see their wrongdoings instead of seeing the positive side of the entire thing

>she said she didn't have the equipment for it
>she doesn't have access to a sofa chair, door, back of a staircase, playground, wall, floor, two chairs of even height for dips, absolutely none of these things so she can't do ANY ONE of the exercises
sometimes if an excuse is bad enough, you have to get the message that she's just set on not doing it
sorry bro

I just wanted an opinion on whether I was in the wrong for trying to force my way of doing things onto her or not. the more I think about it though, I feel as if I am the one that's in the right though

I always condemn that kind of behaviour so she won't come off that easily

>playground
I just laughed out loud while imagining her going to some playground and doing a workout there

How fucking old is she? What a child

If she's literally never done any real exercise before, she's got a point about the machines. When you're that weak and have that shit a level of proprioception, something you can load ultra-light and prevents you from fucking up too bad can be better than skullfucking every free weight movement you're supposed to do.

Odds are she's not refusing to do things properly, she's just that fucking uncoordinated and unused to moving under any sort of load. You see similar issues with guys if they've been sedentary enough.

>she doesn't understand my logic
you are trying to apply logic again
>I refuse to believe this
you are being silly and yes pride is a huge part of it, there are however ways of getting around this. you know those people that seem to convince others of stuff without even trying well you and me will have to learn. I would suggest "How to Win Friends and Influence People" as it gave me some insight into how MOST people work.

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You'll love this then. You don't even *have* to do chin-ups if finding a bar is that hard, it's about doing all the exercises you CAN do.

You lost me at pride. Don't be a child, simple as that. Adults don't throw borderline temper tantrums in public.

She does not take direction well because she is not emotionally mature.

even if you were being a bit forceful i still cant see that justifying her behaviour, it just seems like shes being pouty. I would get irrationally angry if my gf acted that way to me

Sounds like you were being an impatient ass OP. Women are emotional as fuck, and you got to remember that even though you are on your last warmup for a lmao4pl8 squat and sweating test. They have been coddled as far as shit like lifting goes usually as well so their bodily-kinesthetic intelligence is shit if you believe in that crap.

Give her shitloads of positive feedback, even if it is just reinforcing that her form is OK (except you say great). Let her choose what to do for assistance, so she feels like a contributor. Only teach her 1-2 lifts per session.

My girl picked it all up so fast. It took her awhile to get used to the bar position for lowbar squat, but she got it eventually. Bonus: she fucking loves deadlifts, and doubled every lift this quarter.

It isn't what you say OP, it's how you say it. Check yourself and wait until she's off the rag and try again.

>You see similar issues with guys if they've been sedentary enough.
and toddlers. Women as a group are just giant toddlers are far as anything physical goes. Have you seen them try to sportsball or try to talk? Holy fuck have you seen one fall? It is a goddamned disaster. Most of them can't take a punch either, at least in my experience.

>after 3 years of dating gf finally starting to say she is "too tired" for sex consistently

Thoughts? Anyone deal with this before?

So are women just terrible at swallowing pride? Because I've been taken to the gym many times by people who had no clue what they were doing and yet I listened and participated. Not just because i had literally no idea what i was doing, but because i show respect for those who have offered their knowledge and I trust they want to better me. Where is this component of trusting respect and willingness to listen to those who genuinely want to help?

Abort

>gf bragging general

>88

>pride
I don't get this at all. Why would she have pride about something she knows nothing about? Is she too proud to learn things at school too? If she took a dancing class for the first time would she disagree with the teacher there?
Sounds like ego, not pride.

your girlfriend sounds super immature, which I'm sure you either already knew, or would soon find out.

gf just broke up with me last night lads. Said I wasn't giving her as much time as she was giving me, which I guess was true; I do quite a bit of stuff like lifting and choir which take away time from coupling and I wasn't willing to give them up. She came to visit (she was abroad for a semester) and it so happened that this was the exam month here, and additionally I had a rehearsal that I had to go to last night. She was hurt, understandably.
It hardly makes sense. We were having a lot of fun together just the day before, and she was even excited to sign a contract with me which said that our lives would go any way I want (and it was her suggestion, not even memeing).
I wasn't even sure if I wanted to continue with her, but this hit me all the same. But I don't feel particularly hurt, just empty inside now, like I lost something (which I did).
She might have been moody, 4/10, and a tad controlling but she loved me a lot and made sacrifices for me. She brought a lot of joy into my life and she and her family shared my burdens through tough times. If I was assured she was going to walk away happier without me I guess it would have been okay. But I can't help but feel that I broke her heart somehow.
I don't even know if I should pursue her back or try to move on or just chill in the post-breakup limbo for a while (which I am doing now). That this came in the exam month makes it all the more critical.

I realize this isn't what this thread is about, but I don't have any close friends other than her and I wanted to grieve about it somehow. Advice is welcome.
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Lots of people are terrible at swallowing their pride, it’s not just a woman thing. I’ve had the same exact issue this user is having with my cousin. He’s a dyel but he refuses to want listen any advice I give because his dyel friends told him to do bis and tris in every workout. Some people are stubborn and won’t out their pride aside and others aren’t.

>she was abroad for a semester
m8

sounds like she is an absolute shit person.

why do you deal with this child?

As others said your gf is behaving like a child and doesn't seem serious about fitness. First when I started I was doing research on my own trying to figure out the most effective way to train and learned that compounds should be the base. I asked my cousin about training and nutrition because he's more experienced and he helped me with my form. But I didn't rely only on him and I'm still learning.
I think first 3 months could be done with machines to accquintance her muscles and slowly learn form of compounds bit by bit. Tell her that not working out whole body will lead to disproportions. Also tell her that compounds are most effective in gaining muscle and ask why wouldn't she want to work out in most effective way possible,other way it's a waste of time. If she disagrees with your logical explainations seems like she doesn't want to work out hard enough.

Nobody likes being told what to do. It's not what your saying it's HOW your saying it.

I used to date this stupid asian bitch who wouldn't EVER listen to any form of criticism. Constantly would shove fucking pizza down her throat and then go to the gym, do 5-6 sets of low rep, light weight exercises (Mostly isolation ones too) and then complain she wasn't making any gains. (I told her I do high weight, low rep exercises in my program so she thought "Cos she's a girl" she needs to do low weight exercises). Told her she needs to stop doing as many isolation exercises and more compounds and she accused me of being a patronising piece of shit.

Seriously fuck women. 99% of them are retarded

They need to feel like your equal partner so teacher/pupil doesn't work. I tried teaching my girl to ski and all the other instructors laughed that it would be a disaster. They were right. They all taught each others' wives so actually skiing together could be enjoyable as intended. The other benefit of that is you build a friendship with the instructor so she feels more comfortable in that environment knowing people. Chicks don't always like being around tons of people they don't know, especially when learning something.

You're absolutely right. OP if you actually want her to succeed you need to set her up with one of the trainers and let them teach her. I tried to teach my wife to drive stick and it was a nightmare. You're too close to be able to teach effectively - she's going to take every little correction as you picking on her and she'll immediately get defensive. Let a professional handle it.

how do you meet grills after college Veeky Forums

Where do you work? I met my wife through a coworker. My coworker had a little get together at her house and my wife was her roommate.

I'm a milfag. So, 90% swinging dicks with the 10% of women being taken or are trolls.

Which branch? I'm joining soon.

Just get on tinder and fuck sluts for now. It's gonna be hard to meet a long term girlfriend while AD.

Air Force. I got a 10 year commitment too. The tinder game at my current base is absolutely abhorrent. A bunch of obese 5/10s thinking they're goddesses - which is why I'm posting sad wojaks.

Women absolutely hate being critiqued and do not respond well at all to tough love. They want to be showered with compliments and positive reinforcement for working out. The problem is, they rarely do things in a way that justifies this positivity; and if they do they're probably already fit to begin with. So what ends up happening is she'll expect you to still be positive while she's skipping gym sessions and eating like shit. And if you're not positive, she's gonna quit entirely and blame it all on you. Bottom line is, she's either gonna make it or she's not, and from how you've described it, she's not. You have to decide if you can live with this, because if you can't then you will lose attraction for her and slowly start to resent her.

Pilot? I was just selected for a pilot slot.

Yup. Congrats man. Go to Columbus.

Thanks. Where are you?

Vance.

I've heard Vance is ok for families. I'm married but don't have kids. How far into UPT are you?

>that guy who brings his gf to the gym
Fuck you, now you take twice as long on the benches/platforms

>assuming I'm still in UPT

FAIP

Dagger. At least you don't have to deploy I guess? Any tips? I'm still way early in the process (notified of selection right before Christmas) and I haven't even been to wright patt yet.

OP here again
thanks for the solid advice guys. I think I'll just let her do the machines until she has some kind of strength foundation going on so she is up for proper exercises

sad to hear this mate. I hope you get through the tough times and become a better man in the process

everybody has their flaws, it's just that I'm willing to try and and understand it while changing her attitude in the process. if it gets worse though, it's her own fault

dude, I was being nice as fuck but consider that when I have to say the same thing a hundred times, I might get a bit tired. I was nice the whole time, giving her compliments on things she did right and trying to be objective. I guess women can't handle objective criticism though

I ain't her girlfriend though. if she wants dishonest compliments, she can go and get them somewhere else. I have nothing against showering her with compliments if it's justified but me having to lie doesn't bring anything to the table whatsoever. if she wants to eat and live like shit, she unfortunately has to do it without me

Sure, man.

Do you go to IFT?

Know your BF and Ops limits COLD before you get to the flight line is the biggest one. Do you go to IFT? Any idea what you want to fly?

I understand user, but its not gonna work out the way you want it to. You might as well dump her.

I think I will. I assume I want to fly fighters (like everyone else) but I have no clue. I actually don't have any flight hours so it's all pretty new to me. That stuff is all available online right?

How was the physical at wright patt? I'm getting nervous about it.

I wanted to as well, but ended up getting T-1s. It's not bad.

Yeah, you should be able to find them online. Don't worry about wright patt. Just take care of yourself, don't do any dumb shit and break a leg or something. It's a very, very small number of people that get Medically DQ'd.

I assume I'll be fine, but I can't help but worry. My only concern is that I want to get lasik before I start. I know there's a pretty long wait before you can be approved but OTS wait times are like 18 months right now anyway.

Which country?

>dumping my gf of over 4 years over some gym related issue
Nah, it's just that she's not used me bossing her around like this but she'll get used to it either way. It might just take a while

>expecting your gf to change her lifestyle after 4 yrs of dating

I mean Godspeed user but you've been warned

They can change. You just have to drop hints about how you wouldn't want to marry someone unless they do x or y.

That type of passive aggressiveness isn't lost on them you know. If she really cared about looking good for you then you wouldn't be having this issue. She doesn't respect you, like another user said.

They know what you're doing but their desire to be married is so strong that usually they'll fall in line.

I've had her change some of her traits before. It's just that this is a whole new thing for her so I'm willing to stay patient. maybe I'm just expecting too much of her in a too short amount of time

she started because I was dropping hints to begin with. she got a bit of a stomach in the last few months so I pretty much dropped one hint after another while always teasing her a bit by pinching her stomach

kek, this is pretty much what I've been doing once I wanted to change her behaviour. a good old "damn, if you think you can behave like this if you want to live with/marry me, you gotta be insane" goes a long way

I went to my gfs gym with her, taught her how to squat properly sort of and taught her a few exercises to help her get better at skating, went quite well, she said I should be a PT but I didn't study PE at university so I can't.

Exactly. I didn't brainwash her or anything but I made it clear that I had no desire to marry/reproduce with someone who had shitty habits. Chicks withold sex all the time to get what they want, this isn't any different.

Sigh women really are the worst race. Reading this is depressing and all true.

it's fun most of the time but there's two types of women:
>intelligent type: you can have conversations with them, they are determined to have a career and achieve something in their lives, can go do all kinds of great stuff like travelling with them, they aren't focused on social media
>con: they are TOO independent, will nag at you if you behave out of line
>bimbos: you can have great sex with them, they will do whatever you want them to do
>cons: stupid as fuck, no conversations, probably on social media seeking other people's attention all the time, can't do jack shit with them because they annoy the fuck out of you, have no intrinsic motivation to achieve something in their lives

Every kind of woman has their issues but I'd rather have my intelligent girlfriend who doesn't like to be bossed around than some bimbo who instantly says yes to everything

>Tfw have gf that is getting into powerlifting
>165 paused bench, 265 squat, 310 deadlift
>Ass and legs are top tier
>We lift and eat fit meals together
>I think she may be kind of autistic
>We have very little in common apart from powerlifting

Not sure how long this will last, but at least she trains correctly, lel

in what way autistic? maybe she's just determined. unfortunately, nobody is perfect but we can all strive toward doing the best we can I suppose

Mourn. Learn. Move on.