The most overlooked estrogen source

>alcohol
>even in moderate amounts increases estrogen
>it's a well known facts that alcoholics can't get it up
>still being advertised that a "man" must be able to drink a lot
Really guys, i don't even need to source this. Just google "alcohol estrogen". So, how much do you drink Veeky Forums?

>he doesn't convert alcohol into testosterone
dyel?

2.5 standard drinks and below is proven to have zero effect on testosterone and estrogen levels.

if you binge drink every night, this is gonna be a problem. a few beers every week isn't. i lift partially so i can enjoy the things i like without being worried. lifes too short to be strung up on shit like this.

I drink 8-12 473ml tall boy beers everyday after work and more on weekends and I can get it up just fine

>dyel?
dyed?

I get blackout drunk every Friday and Saturday nights for the past 10 years and my gains are fine and so is my ability to get the ol dick up

>you arent a man if you dont drink alcohol
>because its prancing behavior to show how good you are, to partake in such a negative thing must mean you have a lot of positive things!
>you are actually really strong@!
>that must mean that you can do even more bad things you strong man!
>here, take this sugary thing and make it your sole staple food and become fat!
>here, take this sedentary lifestyle and clog up your blood vessels
>here, take this shitty ability to keep your sleep in check and receive the gift or the preconditions for alzheimers, IQ reduction and a host of other evil things
>here, take this fast food, soy and other stuff to further decrease your testosterone
>here, take this STD from the women you fuck so that you now are on medication
>here, take this psycho pseudo science and vaccines with residues of of dangerous substances for its preservation for your kids so that they are now broken (they are strong too arent they?)
>here, take these drugs off drug dealers and get addicted to meth too
>here, take these video games and porn and lose all hope in life too
>...
>...
>whats that user? Your life is completely shit and your testosterone is down the drain, as it is with 99% of other people? Looks like you arent actually strong and your genetics are shit. Better luck next time buddy.

>sedentary lifestyle

kek I walk everywhere I go and lift shit all day long at work

>advertised

Let's not play down the language here. What you mean is cultural propaganda that alcohol is a socially acceptable drug that does not challenge the agenda of controlling governments and institutions

The internet is the most overlooked estrogen source. Prove me fucking wrong, faggots.

in europe, around half of the people have a sedentary lifestyle. In merryfat land its probably near 70% though. Srsly, my point is that these things add up and that there exist no man who can have all these negative things stack up for him, and still remain normal.

This. Alcohol is a legal well accepted poison. Because it causes to the body actual poisoning by medical standards.

1 glass of weak champagne on New Year's Eve, other than that basically an abstinent.

I agree but drinking just a bit while being close to sober is a waste imo, i wouldn't drink beer simply because the taste otherwise i would be drinking coke at the first opportunity i had as well. Part of the fun is being buzzed and relaxed alongside the taste.

and the reverse of that proposition is called fascism.

>you arent strong or are you? Seems like you need to stack up all the positive things to become better
>here take these sports so that your cardio vascular system becomes better functioning, carries off clogged of cholesterol in your vessels better
>here, that this proper nutrition with meats, and veggies, while avoiding the pitfalls of modern nutrition to get all your daily required nutrients...so that you dont have any deficiencies
>here, take this completely and utter drug avoidance so that you will have no other weird downsides
>here, take this workweek around colleagues so that your mind remains operating on problems and challenges
>here, take this one woman who will provide for your kids, and be connected to your emotions, to provide relief in life
>here, take this long and good sleep pattern so that you always feel refreshed and energetic throughout the day!
>...
>...
>Whats that user? Your life is completely nice and your testosterone is quite high? As it is with 1% of the other people. Looks like you are actually strong and your genetics may be good. Well done user.

I like the relaxation that one/two beers or some wine brings to me. I used to drink a lot and didn't see the point of just having a drink or two but now I get physically uncomfortable when I start to pass 2 drinks. I guess thats a win.

tldr

if you're a real high test man the estrogen boost from drinking won't kill your dick, bc you're THAT MUCH OF AN ALPHA. dont you get it, it's kinda like getting sick from drinking. you're only a man if you can handle your alcohol.

each time i drink, i drink until i almost pass out but i have to will myself to stay alive and get back home. linear progression brah, get dem willpower and liver gains

I am and I just dont get this real life normie mentality. If real life is like a video game (shut up you are at a fag nerd site here), then why would you want to have a debuff, a negative statistic tied to you? You usually win at life if you have all kinds of positive statistics tied to yourself. And its quite clear that many of our chemicals and things in our body are quite important for that. So what sane man would take even one thing that may bring him down? Instead of getting drunk on alcohol, you could get more gainz. Less chance of liver failures or cancer. It just makes zero sense. If you tear apart alcohol from culture, and replace it with the thousand of other negative things. It just makes no sense to use it even a little bit.

>still being advertised that a "man" must be able to drink a lot

seriously it is so deeply entwined in american culture that even as someone who pretty much never drinks (maybe twice a year if that, and dislikes it while doing so), I feel this weird urge to do it like I'm missing out on something? Every time I do it I'm like "whoa, this tastes like shit just like last time. now I'm kind of yelling a little bit." and still I feel like I must be doing it wrong or something because the media I consume often makes alcohol look like a grand old time

>be romanz
>drink mead and wine after battle
>still maintain godly warrior physiques
explain

>He doesn't Jeff cavaliere mode
Never did drugs in my entire life. Did alcohol once and got shitfaced. Healthy strict diet and exercise since 16 (22 now)
>Inb4 boring virgin
I'm not virgin but i never had a girlfriend for longer than 6 months for obvious reasons. Still searching for that one qt health freak gf so we can rise healthy high test chads and make healthy food from our farm together

not only are you a nerd, but you're also autistic as fuck. probably don't have mates do drink with

I rarely drink now, when I was younger I could drink a lot and had fun doing that. 4 years later I stop drinking before it even begins, and not because I get shitfaced. The fun has passed or something, nothing is tasty anymore and nothing has this fun intoxicating effect. All it does is making my fucking stomach hurt and give me a mild fever.

So I only drink 2-4 kopparbergs on occasions. Fuck being called a fag, they are unbelievably good.

Rarely I have no friends

Who needs standard mates? Most pubs and bars are basically social places that have at least a couple of dudes just being aloneish. Been a couple of times into them and large, even mediocre groups of friends are not the only things roaming around there. Shit its obviously not even just dudes, sometimes women also come alone or in bare minimum groups (2 people). Drinking makes you retarded and social so its nearly ALWAYS easy to socialize there.

Do you even know what sedentary means

>getting drunk and losing control over yourself then making ass out of yourself
yeah really manly

Do you even remember how many dicks you have consumed, faggot.

Red wine boosts test

>slippery slope logic

>muh vidya

Video games destroy more young men's lives that alcohol.

Plus not everything is a stat sheet in white and black. Alcohol can help make social gains and getting laid gains. It has for me.

>Plus not everything is a stat sheet in white and black

actually, everything is. In regards to bodily health its a huge negative. And the modern western lifestyle is exactly what is leading to this decay. It even has a word to display this thing, its called hedonism.

We both know you don't have a dick.

The thing you don't get or are ignoring is that health is not merely being physically strong. You must also be healthy mentally and spiritually. Life isn't meant to be the endless search to get a higher number for your free test. It's important but not everything

Alcohol hundreds to thousands of years ago was completely different. It's specifically alcohol in recent decades that has become a strongly estrogenic drink. It's almost like (((someone))) is sabotaging us.

If cancer was killing us when we hit 25, then that would be the main problem to solve. Right now the lack of testosterone is doing much worse than that even. Affecting the lives of many children to teens, impeding proper development. I can safely say that right now we must ignore everything spiritual and focus on the healthy levels of test, since its a monumental task that is affecting way too much.

I have gynecomastia (genetic, all of my male relatives have it) and I can fucking see the breast tissue enlarged the morning after a night of drinking. I even took pictures and compared them a few years back. The tissue stays a bit enlarged for a few days and I've had people even comment on it. I haven't drank in a year now.

That is quite the materialistic worldview you got there schlomo

>being (((this))) delusional

Guys I swear I'd be bigger but the jews are putting stuff in our drinking water!

Does this hold true for shit like whisky and vodka?
iirc there was a study that showed a shot of vodka immediately after working out increased T by 40%

That's why I put onions in my beer.

They are, retard. In USA at least, and in alcohol in every western nation.
Pretending like it isn't happening despite all the evidence of the shit kikes do is a sign that a person has to be extremely stupid.

This nutritional bro-science is nothing more than a way to explain away why your gains are shit.
"It's beer and soy's fault! It's pumping me full of estrogen and feminizing me! I know, if I eat five raw onions a day, I'll get swole!"
Lift heavy and hit your macros every day and you will get gains. Having a couple beers isn't going to make a difference and there is no way this many people on Veeky Forums are actual professional bodybuilders trying to meticulously optimize their hormonal balance.

The newest newfag in all the land

will vodka turn me into a cute girl?

>Never did drugs in my entire life. Did alcohol once and got shitfaced.

>never did drugs in my entire life
>did alcohol once

Pick one. Alcohol is a drug.

I go through a handle of whisky 2 times a week. usually takes me 3 days to go through one

i jerk off twice a day

been lifting 5+ years. ask me anything.

hell yeah brother these pussies have other problems if their T gets fucked from some drinking

redditfag

maybe a couple beers a month
>smoke weed ery day

Is a handle a liter?

>that post
>those digits
Heil

>handle of whisky
1.75