Veeky Forums what is the science of dopamine and how to fix your mind? Anyone studied this before?

>tfw no motivation to do anything
>tfw always stressed out
>tfw want to die everyday

>If you were really depressed, you wouldn't care about being able to fuck, you'd just want to kill yourself
Med's give you nausea?
>If you were really depressed, you wouldn't care about eating, you'd just want to kill yourself
Med's not working
>If you were really depressed you wouldn't care about being happy, you'd just want to kill yourself

>The only thing I’ve ever been responsive to is medication.
That's possible, but highly unlikely.
You aren't one of those faggots who quit therapy, because it didn't magically change your life without you putting any work into it, are you?
Medication is usually meant as a crutch, so that you can properly respond to therapy.

If you really are one of those rare cases of lifetime AD-users, god bless.
But again: It's unlikely.

>This would honestly only work with normies who are “depressed,” lol
Which is what I said.
But you are making it sound like you are doing none of this and are surprised that your symptoms aren't disappearing without medication.

I did all of that and it did jack shit. Working out to beat depression is a meme.

I’ve been consistent with my therapy and have never quit, I have a great relationship with my psychologist, my psychiatrist on the other hand is a cunt. I just want this stupid fucking med temporarily to balance my self out and to stay on Lamictal, I don’t get what’s so hard about that. The PDOC before him too was a dumb bitch too. She prescribed me some bullshit that threw me into a fucking depressive episode that took me 8 months to recover from

I was eating at least a gram of molly a weekend for a couple months
Years later I just feel permanently depressed
How fucked am I?

>mindfulness
my doctors never brought this up with me
its the only thing that helped
besidesmarc.ucla.edu/meditation-at-the-hammer

Pretty damn fucked for a long while more, your only chance is trying to live extremely healthy and hoping you get some receptors back.

Therapy isn't just about talking to them about your problems and then expecting everything to get better. You need to make changes to your life based on what advice they give or realizations you've come to. Try to get out of negative patterns in thinking and action. The meds will help with that but everything is still all you.

>I did all of that and it did jack shit.
Again, for people with actual full blown MDD, it's to avoid recurrence.
>Working out to beat depression is a meme.
It isn't. Exercise demonstrably reduces depressive symptoms.
In most people at least.

>I’ve been consistent with my therapy and have never quit, ...
I wonder if I am ever gonna hear a psychiatric story of a non-textbook patient that doesn't make the US-American medical system sound like a fucking nightmare.

Whatever, dude. I hope it all works out for you.

MBCT has been shown to be effective for patients with more than two prior episodes, with childhood trauma and with past suicidal tendencies. Mostly it has been effective to prevent recurrence, but also useful during therapy.
There are also some new therapy schools that include mindfulness in CBT.

It's not a magic bullet, but it does fix some holes that classical CBT used to have.

I'm not surprised that they didn't bring it up. It is only now slowly becoming standard practice. And mostly in Europe, where insurances (and companies) are interested in preventative stuff.

ITT: Psychfag who’s only source of depression is the DSM-V and has never been clinically depressed

Damn.. I try to be healthy but not "extremely"
I think I remember google saying itll take like 30 years
Oh well though I guess, I knew it wasn't healthy but it was just too much fun

>Oh well though I guess, I knew it wasn't healthy but it was just too much fun
Fair enough.
But you might want to start recovery now.
Past 25, it will become progressively more difficult to fix neurological issues like that.

Try to get some SSRIs prescribed to you. They sensitize your receptors to serotonin and increase the total amount of serotonin floating around in your brain slowly.

I was diagnosed with depression after I swallowed an entire bottle of meds and had my stomach pumped.

I'm the molly user, I was prescribed one years ago but I read bad reviews about the sides and concluded they hadnt quite figured it out yet and didn't want to feel like a zombie
What you said sounds like probably what I need
Which ones would you, or any user, recommend?

>Using CBT to treat clinical depression in 2018
Nice meme brother. Most people think the intrusive, unwanted thoughts and low self-esteem that accompanies depression are the cause of it. However, these are just symptoms to a neurotransmitter problem caused by an inflammatory response (as well as other factors like vitamin and mineral deficiency) that change the way we perceive our reality.

As the years go on it's becoming more and more apparent that depression is an illness precipitated from chronic inflammation. There is virtually no distinction between "sickness behaviour" and varying levels of depression; it is an evolutionary response our bodies have adapted to optimally recover from illness. Depression causes us to isolate ourselves from the tribe and exhibit certain behaviors women (and to a lesser extent men) pick up on that prevents us from reproducing and interacting with others while in a diseased state - most probably to prevent the proliferation of sub-optimal genes and sickness -. Our microbiome (the community of bugs that collectively live in our gut and, when healthy, moderate inflammatory responses, synthesize nutrients like b6 and b12 essential for proper CNS function, repair our intestinal wall and prevent things like intestinal permeability, and detoxify chemicals and heavy metals from our bodies) has been proven abnormal in mental illnesses that range from autism, to bipolar, to schizophrenia, to depression. I could go on about this for days but for anyone who's reading this who's dealing with depression, cut gluten and dairy from your diet. You will thank me later. Also check out the work of Dr. Will Walsh and his video "the five biotypes of depression".

You're doc refused you Welbutrin? That is the mildest of anti-depressants. What the fuck is his problem?

OP, get some n-acetyl-l-tyrosine, and some phenylethylamine, and take about a 1000mg a day of both, you'll see some differences.

If I am unable to feel any emotions what could it be? Serotonin/dopamine deficiency, depression?

Mentioned before, it caused me a hypomanic episode but when I had taken it in the past I wasn’t taking it with a mood stabilizer.

Well, would not taking Wellbutrin just be a unnatural solution, prevent you from getting your life straight at a natural pace, and in worst case make you addicted to it? If you get addicted to it, and use it much, it will eventually hit you back in the face, and you will be at an even lower level than you are now, and maybe lose faith and think that nothing does help your situation.

Great post, got some links you'd recommend on the 'tism?

cold showers help me when im at my lowest lows.

You are an intermediate buddhist?

>having time to actually go see psychs

Maybe its time to move out of mommies attic

Don't think so

You studying from university of welness mama blog?

The theory of single neurotransmitters being the causes for mental illnesses like depression and anxiety is outdated and didn't have great evidence for it in the first place. Here are a couple sources regarding the connection between serotonin and disorders like anxiety and depression. Dopamine can be examined in the same way. Having more dopamine won't magically fix anything, unfortunately the pathophys behind mental illness is a little bit more complex. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1277931/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4471964/

this
this guy knows what he's talking about
l-tyrosine or nalt is precursor to dopamine
phenethylamine is dopamine releaser
i myself take l-tyrosine and some form of more bioavailable PEA derivative
also caffeine, which increase dopamine receptors sensitivity so you need less dopamine to get the same effect
it's basically safer adderall and neuroprotective instead of neurotoxic

>tfw on 100mg of dexedrine daily for over five years due to treatment resistant depression
>fixed my mood but wreaked havoc on my health--had hypertension, unable to exercise, eventually developed an arrhythmia
>decided with my doctor to transition off
>start taking wellbutrin and doing cardio to replicate the stimulant effects
>eventually get off dexedrine with minimal decompensation >my mood is completely zombified though
>have to do at least two hours of cardio every day or else my mood self-destructs

Dopamine receptor down-regulation is a bitch. All I can say to anons considering stimulants or other drugs is don't do it unless the only alternative is literally suicide.

>take wellbutrin for a few months
>hopelessly tired
>get panic attacks just thinking about sitting down to study
>on constant fight or flight, neck felt it was going to snap from the stress and the only thing i could do was walk aimlessly for hours
>constant feeling of impending doom
was literally going to end it, suicide was the only thing that would give me the slightest sense of wellbeing but i guess wellbutrin isnt for everyone
>replace wellbutrin for zoloft
>worked for month
>get bumped up to max dosage within the 1st month
>gain weight, feel like a neutered dog but atleast i dont feel like killing myself
>max dosage does nothing
this is when my psych decides to put me on abilify
>explode in weight but fixed depression for a week
>stops working afterwards, similar symptoms of being on wellbutrin but cant stop stuffing my fucking face
>tell psych to piss off, not taking abilify anymore
>currently weaning off of zoloft
im sure im fucking hopeless considering i gain tolerance for psych meds so fucking fast, at one point i was popping 200~mg of vyvanse a day and would still end up falling asleep anyways

if you arent as fucked as i am just stay away from that shit, at this point im sure im going to end up dying from shooting up heroin because nothing for more than a week for me

How do I regain receptor sensitivity after a long period of porn use?

very few people who think they are "clinically depressed" are at all.

>Oh, I forgot to list being social.

Right because it's soooo easy for people with depression to just get out of bed and go be social. All your other tips are basic no-brainers but advising depressed people to "be social" is about as useful as telling them to stop being depressed. It's a glib, uncritical tautology spouted by an unempathetic normie.

Surely the people who are diagnosed by a multitude of different doctors are. That was my first diagnosis until it was discovered I was bipolar.

This. I’m sick of normies thinking they can add their 2 cents to curing depression lol

I can also read off an article found on the first results of a google search