Nootropics

caffeine with l-theanine (2:1).

Ok so for now I'm going to do

3G piracatam
Order and try semax and mod alert
Look more into bcp

Best way is to buy it on Ebay.

Is alpha gpc any good ?

Adrafinil and Noopept stack is the real deal

You can buy prl-8-53 on ebay, its not too expensive either. Worth a shot,imo.

Wrong pic, meant to post this

>racetam
complete placebo for healthy brain, only useful to mildly reverse dementia on old people
>focus
phenylpiracetam, has phenylethylamine backbone which is a CNS stimulant

methylphenidate is the way to go, everything else is useless

Adrafinil and Modafinil should be in the same spot. Adra just turns into Moda in the liver.

The only stim you wanna mess with is caffeine, don't go for other shit
Also you said yourself aniracetam/oxyracetam helped you focus, which is what you wanted AND it's what nootropics are supposed to do, if you want a super boost then go for heavier drugs.

I'd go for aniracetam/oxyracetam (what worked for you) + noopept + l-theanine for getting in "the flow" state and superior focus, and combine it with caffeine+nicotine if you want a stim boost.
Remember, for nootropics higher doses don't mean better results.

Is it normal for noopept to give you anxiety? Whatever the case i didnt like it, but i took it on an empty stomach

Do shrooms or LSD

What about modafinil?

you say they didn't work how do you know, what metrics did you track? here's what I track when trialing something new
>cognition
>reasoning
>memory
>verbal fluency
>blood glucose levels
>blood pressure
>heart rate
>blood oxygen levels
>breathing
>temperature

I track the at (usually) three points, onset, peak and ending - with a lot of them like phenylpiracetam self quantifying is difficult, I thought it did nothing but all my brains metrics increased by atleast 30% for 2 hours

The racatam family doesnt do that much, it enhances slightly. Youll notice small change, like things are bolder or musics is slightly crisper.

eating eggs generally isnt enough. You need choline supps. Choline is one of those 'supplements' that doesn't just replenish, but can also come with interesting side affects in higher doses, such as irritability, enhanced memory and faster reaction time - almost like a stimulant.

alot of people 'stack' for the reasons you mentioned.
They will take, 'aniracatam' for the focus on reading, phenylracatam for motivation cognitive function. Caffeine for the stim. theanine for the calming effects to counter the high caffiene. Choline supps +b vitamins so the drugs have full affect etc.

Kind of. High choline reuptake will cause anxiety. If you also get motion sickness easier, then the dose is definitley too high for you, or you need to try take calming t, such as taurine, theanine camomile tea etc.

These labels look like you're buying from some low quality garbage.

Op here thanks for all the replays
First off from reading everything I'm going to try this for now
Piracatam
Semax or should I go for nooppt
Chlorine supplment
Modalert occasionally

How does selnak compare to the semax
Wouldn't I be better of having modalert rather than having Adrafinil

I can't remember if they where the sole cause of the focus or not as i took them about 4-4 years ago.

And you are right I don't wanna fuck with other stimulants really.

I fuck with coke now and then and even when you end up on your own you don't really do anything productive.
Same with speed/amphetamine paste.Ive tried that 3x in my life and you think you are going to be productive but then you just start cleaning up the house and then fiddling with some sort of useless task for about 5hours

I'd like to test it and try them properly this time around.

Near the end of my last piractam cycle I found that Cambridge game testing site but then stopped using both after 4days

>What would you suggest I do to test my self.
>How should I make full use of the nootropics to get the best effects (learning wise)

I got that site recommended to me from here.The sites called nootropicdepot

Btw o don't want to buy many this month as I've got to restock some protein and creatine

>babby level
Coffee and ciggys

>mid level
Modafinil

>god level
Addy

>I'd like to test it and try them properly this time around.
>
>Near the end of my last piractam cycle I found that Cambridge game testing site but then stopped using both after 4days
I use cambridge game site for benchmarking my brain metrics (cognition etc) one thing you should do (if you can) is buy the powder, a capsule maker and some capsules) make up a batch on phenylpiracetam (for example) and a batch a glutamine (placebo) then get a third party to put them in a pill organizer and they write down what day is placebo and what is phenyl, then at the end of the testing cycle get the list of placebos off them and analyze the results, as for tracking physical metrics, temp heart rate etc I just use stuff you can buy off amazon

ADHD meds are literally placebo tier
healthland.time.com/2010/12/21/adderall-may-not-make-you-smarter-but-it-makes-you-think-you-are/

Phenibut.
It's one of the few drugs that make me take a step back and think "why can't I feel like this all the time?". It genuinely makes me feel like what I think chads feel like. Relaxed. Confident. Carefree. I'm trying to figure out a way to carry over how I feel while I'm on it to when I'm not using it.

But it's technically not a nootropic I guess.

Are you retarded? Have you ever taken Adderall? It's literally an amphetamine. Unless you're referring to it making you smarter being a placebo, in that case you're right.

I was I meant it's nootropic purposes are placebo, IMO it's only good for focus sorry for phrasing it weird pal

>Unless you're referring to it making you smarter being a placebo, in that case you're right.
Well all this shit doesn't make you smart. But all make you more productive which can help you bust out a study session/read/etc. which will (hopefully) make you smarter. No doubt none of this shit will NOT increase IQ.

IIRC it does have some very minor cognitive effects, I mostly use it recreationally, I take 5-10g (depending on if I've done a tolerance cycle) then get drunk (I know the risks) and watch tv then take a nap

Biohacking (which nootropics are) can literally increase your IQ ( forbes.com/sites/jeffbercovici/2012/03/13/human-tech-at-sxsw-how-to-boost-your-iq-by-20-points/ ) and their are tons of studys showing they can increase the brains performance which I'd imagine would in turn increase IQ

Don't you really need to be taking most of these for some time rather than day by day to see results ?

Also I guess I could do this by my self by mixing the bags up and putting a little folded up note in each one

I'm getting some delicious Valium Soon for that.
That is one thing what may actualy help me if I can STACK it with a good nootropic as it calms down my racing mind.

Also going to try pic related before and after meditating of a morning from tomorrow

Anyone try phenibut? Shit got me laid last night

some (the study aid type, racetams noopept etc) are usually just used as and when needed

yeah I use it it's pretty good, not incredible but pretty fun

I've been taking 200mg l-theanine daily for about a month now and have not felt any significant change.

I find it's similar to kratom but better for anxiety and worse for pain relief

only ever tried SSRIs, benzos, weed and phenibut for anxiety desu

Whenever i am lazy and unmotivated i say "WORK WORK WORK WORK" internally inside my head and that usually works for me.
Also you can take a freezy cold shower every morning to make you more active and less resistant to unpleasant things.

piracetam
tianeptine
vinpocetine
diazepam
+++
tons of choline supps

these pills are all allostearic modulators that I use to fix my fried up depressed brain
they wont do shit for normies except drop your acethylcholine to the level that you'll have boner issues sweaty hands headaches along insomnia (if no diazepam)

theres no superbrain pill opie if your IQ is X that's where it will be most of your adult life

phenibut daily user here brah
once a week phenibut usage which is rampant on the net is such a meme

That's nice but it then his is exactly what I want them for

>increase my focus while reading.Reading mainly boring things for work.
>increase productivity
>Retain knowdlge a bit better.
>increase both analytical and creative thinking.(I'll use mushies in a few months for the latter)
>Verbal fluency...Ive read that some of these can help with Thad,I have no problem speaking to people but do want to see what that can do for me.
>improve my awerness

Goals
Learn more about this business I want to set up.Find suppliers,create logos,posters to advertise,Think of unique ways I can stand out.

I am mainly a thinker more than a doer.
Some people just go out an do shit without thinking,I come up with amazing ideas but don't do them.

In my spare time I'm also wanting to learn a few things on investapedia and I'm also thinking of doing the maths and science on Khan accadmy.

>grow grow grow grow grow

how much do you do daily? this shit is wicked on your kidneys and the withdraws can be vicious if you're a daily user.

>5-10g

good fucking lord. what are the effects like on that level?

>how much do you do daily?
1-1.5g currently
>this shit is wicked on your kidneys
source?
> and the withdraws can be vicious if you're a daily user.
nah
just don't take >2g daily and withdrawal is literally lethargy for 3 days but i don't even get withdrawal anymore

well for me I'm using it as an escape, so the only way I could describe it is imagine feeling like you're actually human I know it sounds weird but that's how it effects me in a more understandable way imagine everything being round, nothing matters and everythings good also walking is quite challenging

too much just make me sleepy, the sedation overpowers the stimulation on high dose

As a former heavy user like yourself, my advice to you is to lower your dosage considerably. Phenibut isn't a joke dude, comparable to xanax addiction in terms of danger. I wouldn't suggest halting usage like that, always taper especially on that dosage. But hey, you'll learn that lesson eventually if you keep this up.

no, you read then perpetuating the meme on the internet
i mean how can i say it more clearly? i said i already got withdrawal several times, and it's just lethargy, and i don't even get the lethargy anymore nowadays
what's so similar about xanax and phenibut? i take phenibut everyday, gonna take shroom the first time later this year, in the future i'm considering trying opioid, definitely gonna try speedball at least once in my life, yet drugs that i will never ever touch with a ten foot pole are benzos especially xanax
learn how it works and ignore the meme man

I was on anti psychotics for a while so I seem to have adjusted to sedation, I just take the nap because it's the comfiest and nicest sleep I get

Just rail speed faggot

Threads being side tracked

What dose and sort o schedule would you guys suggest with the sups I want to use.

Also at the moment This is going to be my current schedule from tomorrow

Wake up
>15 min jog around park
>10 min mediation (head space 30 day challenge)
>Take suplments (thinkin of going back to fasting,only eating of a night)
>put phone away go on computer look up more information about my business
Tonight's goal will be to write down a business plan the. Follow it up from there.
2hours
>after this weights.
>khan accadmy 2 hours.

When you write it down like that it seems like you can do so much in a day.
But what really happens is you wake up have your coffe,talk to family for an hour,go look for your shoes Andkeys,

Finaly go on your jog,come back get asked to take the rubbish out,then you sit down for 5,forget what you was doing.

Then you sit down again and start shit posting and looking at girls ass on IG then the next min it's 6pm and you feel tired

And people I'm not looking to increase my iq.Like I said I'm not looking wanting to do anything highly technical

The business idea im looking into is to do with selling food and alcohol.So part of the reason for wanting to use the sups is so I can focus more on readi all these bullshit laws and guide lines and trying to work most of it out on my own before I see a specialist.

So what brand should I get being a brit an all?
I was thinking of using powder city as I've herd they're products are top notch also herd ceretropic Is good

is this shit worth it? I don't feel like dropping 50 dollars on some meme

nootropicsdepot.com/phenibut-hcl-powder/

is this the stuff? 2g once a week for cool calm and collected?

Read my thread man I bought a bottle of that brand and it done fuck all go try some where else

I'd vouch for raw powders also tolerance builds up unless you cycle 2 weeks on 2 weeks off

I've been taking phen for a few times. Used it before a job interview recently. The interview part went super well, they called me back for a second round.
Also everytime I take it I feel so good for the next few days, because of all the social gainz. Eventually I want to taper it to down and be godlike socially 24/7. I have pretty bad social anxiety normally.

Acquire noopept in powder form for cheap, adjustable doses. PureNootropics has 15g for $19 shipped: purenootropics.net/product/noopept/ Alternatively, you can buy from NootropicsDepot ($8 for 5g, $14 for 10g), but you need to purchase over $50 of products. Here is the link: nootropicsdepot.com/noopept/

You state that you eat ~5 eggs daily, so your choline intake should be fairly high. This will assist with taking draining substances like noopept.

You will benefit from having some kind of carrier device to move the small quantities of noopept or other nootropics in and out of the scale. I received a small plastic micro spoon from PN when I ordered noopept from them, but I own my own metal micro lab scoops (which you may wish to consider investing in). Accurate dose is important, or you will acquire side effects or little benefit. If you don't already own it, buy this scale: amazon.com/Smart-Weigh-GEM20-Precision-Milligram/dp/B00ESHDGOI

In my testing, 16-18mg worked the best for me. Many people take much less (>=12mg), and some take more (

try to stay around 2g/week and always space your doses. nootropic depot is worth it, they do free same day shipping for orders before a certain time, always had a great experience with them.

phen is a godlike substance but just be careful with it. dont depend on it.

Lol you probably didn't take enough. I need 2g to feel anything with phenibut.

I have 2g and I barely feel the effects without any tolerance. Also how much of a dose for sleeping on phenibut?

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