Stop making threads about yourself alex
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Jaxon Clark
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Carter Jones
No. Pharma grade is better. I have tried both. It feels almost like it is double the dose.
Also he is right. You will grow without doing anythng, but it will have the same side effects and it would be a waste of gear considering how much more you could achieve by lifting.
Wyatt Hughes
>It feels almost like it is double the dose
>but it's literally less than regular ugl test
>Also he is right. You will grow without doing anythng
Are you literally retarded or you're just fucking with me? If anyone seriously believe this shit should start pinning test right away.
Brody Hall
you will grow without doing anything with test tho
Daniel Nelson
>>if you pin and not exercise you won't grow
This is completely untrue, there are teenagers who are stacked despite never doing physical activity in their lives due to high natural test levels, to say pushing your levels well past the natural zone isn't going to do something is retarded.
I have every intention of getting on test in the future but I'm not going to pretend I worked hard for the gains.
Wyatt Perry
>Are you literally retarded or you're just fucking with me? If anyone seriously believe this shit should start pinning test right away.
Bro, roids ARE the magic pill. You WILL grow without doing ANYTHING but it's really not cost effective to do it that way.
There's also some cardio drug that increases your cardio gains just by taking it (you can lie on the couch all day, won't matter), but I forget the name since it's just letters and numbers.
It's really kinda magic. If you don#t do real sports, roids are all you need.
Logan Perry
SR-9009 is the cardio magic shit, but it has low oral bioavailability. That is why DMSO application is better, but it is a research chemical.
UGL is often underdosed, unless you get lucky or know the source directly.
Roids alone actually make you more gains than a natty fucker that lifts, but it would be expensive and a waste of gear considering what you can achieve by juicing and lifting.
Colton Adams
Pathetic thread OP, you are wrong.
Christopher Morgan
>UGL is often underdosed
it's the other way around. It's overdosed compared to pharma grade because raws are cheap as fuck and no one wants to make underdosed gear
>linking the MEME study again
when you pin test you will gain water weight in couple days because muscles will store more glycogen and dexa scans and other bullshit that "measures" body composition counts glycogen as lean muscle mass. That's why every idiot claims that he gained "lean muscle mass" without lifting. I've gained fucking 10lbs in 5 days after my first ever pin and dexa would count it as lean mass.
Jace Barnes
>le meme study amirite guise
Yes, all that increase during the entirety of the cycle was water weight. Moron.
Joshua Collins
>UGL
>not underdosed
Nigger, I have personally tested both and pharma grade was dosed higher on every single test.
Eli Rivera
>roiders will spend literally thousands of dollars on steroids and risk the horrible potentially life-ruining side effects and then claim "steroids hardly do anything, it's all hard work baby"
dude lmao
Matthew Rivera
Why is he shit talking Dr. Shawn Baker? Shawn got his license revoked because he was helping people get healthy instead of putting them under the surgical knife. He got fired because making people healthy through carnivorous dieting doesn't make the hospital any money.
Caleb Butler
It is hard work too. You must train much more while roiding to get your money's worth. Also it is not nore expensive than all the bullshit your celltech representative tries to sell you (and does not do shit for the most part).
Ryder Fisher
I would argue there are probably many natty guys who work just as hard as anyone who's on steroids, at least for short periods of times. It's basically impossible to keep up a super high level of intensity like that if you're getting 1/20th the results a steroid user is getting.
Gavin Kelly
>You must train much more while roiding to get your money's worth
1.You can do the dumbest most retarded bullshit imaginable and get damned good gains while on gear.
2.People who know what they are doing or are athletes, take gear SO they can do the kind of workouts that are only possible because of gear.
Jacob Richardson
this is bait
no it's fucking not. The 3 roidheads at my gym train like absolute shit, for about half an hour with baby weight and utter shit form and are all shredded.
All you have to do while roiding is literally not fuck it up hard. You can get away with literally all kinds of dumb shit.
Jayden Jones
Professional strength coach here, OP
He is absolutely correct. Just blasting test e alone will make you bigger and stronger even if you're sedentary, to a point.
It won't be optimal, you won't look good, you won't feel good, and you certainly will not be healthy, but you will technically gain strength and mass.
Ayden Green
you forgot to mention that depending on the dosage you are even going to get more lean mass and lose more fat than someone working their balls out.
Fuck, if you're taking a perfect adjusted stack you can do bodyweight shit at your house and you're gonna get huge. Waste of money and roids? yes. Still going to be bigger than any natty.
Adrian Hall
Alex is looking a lot less like absolute shit these days. Borderline handsome even.
Jaxson Watson
He got fired because he's a fucking retarded, you dipshit. You don't put your patients health at risk by going against the recommendation of literally every health organization and tens of thousands of scientific research.
Adam Sanchez
He finally stopped with the bear mode shit, went vegan, and is finally getting shredded.
Oliver Mitchell
If you are clearly ignorant about a subjec, don't make comments about it. You aren't obliged to. You certainly aren't obliged to insult people correcting your fucktardery, either. Roids will make a DYEL grow more than someone who lifts natty. Though you won't get much stronger without lifting.