Why is losing weight SO FUCKING HARD?

>2/3 meals a day are shakes
How do you even manage?

motivation is the first guy in the charge who shouts with his sword drawn and gets shot down first.

>losing weight
>hard
Privileged fatties.

idk I guess it's part of mental fitness too. I'm working out both mind and body. first week was a bitch but third week and second week I'm feeling great and not craving food like I used to. I used to eat bout 4000 calories a day. first week will suck, but after that you enjoy the salad you eat and you enjoy the shakes.

Brainlets, CICO causes hormonal changes which lower your metabolism and increase your hunger, success rate for CICO is less than 5%.

OP needs to completely stop eating, that is the only proven and repeatable way to lose weight long-term.

this

Eat sardines everyday.

>what are vegetables

God, fucking americans I swear to god

>lowers your metabolism

Ask me how I know you're retarded
Understanding of basic human biochemistry and anatomy will tell you its bullshit
metabolism is mostly about keeping your ass alive, hence keeping your tissues circulating with blood and keeping your temperature within a certain range. Muscle is a lot more vascular than fat thus more muscle = higher "metabolism". There is no "damaging metabolism", you either gain or lose mass that you body has to keep alive.

>success rate for CICO is less than 5%.

Western Democray food is full of hidden sugar. The food that isn’t costs three times as much. Shit sux.

And basic human anatomy also tell us there's a process called homeostasis that lowers your metabolic rate during famines.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Starvation_Experiment

Constantly eating generates high resting insulin levels, blocking you from entering ketosis and accessing your fat stores.

Fasting on the other hand, because of the low insulin levels, increases in HGH and noradrenaline which act as muscle-preservative hormones and the body primarily utilizes fat.

cbc.ca/news/health/obesity-research-confirms-long-term-weight-loss-almost-impossible-1.2663585
You can keep lying to yourself, but any fatty who reads this is only going to waste time by listening to you

here's one of my salads as reference. I only drink water too

>I just need to avoid carbs
You don't, buddy.

>have 4 big eggs for dinner since I spent all day walking and it was train day
>2 hours later my stomach is rumbling again
>my cut starts next month
I lost 15kg in 4 months easy before but cutting while training is going to be some next level shit

>wikipedia as a source
you realize you just proved my point right? What I described to you IS homeostasis, and also why does it lower your metabolism? because you have less mass. I don't think you're arguing but agreeing with me at this point. Constantly eating foods that easily break down into glucose illicit high resting insulin levels. Eating proteins and fats illicit minimal insulin response. Fasting is good for certain individuals i.e. no heart issues etc. you just have to really watch your electrolytes

Why do people keep treating losing weight as if it’s some unsolvable thing that no one has found the answer to yet? Fat people are actually the worst with they unbelievable arrogance to think it’s anything other then they own faults in counting calories and getting proper exercise.

water is a hunger depressant. drink atleast a gallon of water

I meant to elaborate why does famine lower your metabolism***

switch sugar with banana

Wrong, holy crap how much broscience is on this board. Thirst can mimic hunger, it has no actual effect on Ghrelin regulation.

it's really not that hard homie you seem to be overthinking it

I drink water until my pee becomes crystal clear but lately my appetite is out of control
It helped my lifts so it's not all that bad though

if you drink water 20 mins before you eat, you eat less. only people who dont have willpower keep stuffing themselves.

Famine lowers your metabolism because it does

This has been studied, your actual metabolism on CICO diet after a few months is usually far lower than a BMR or TDEE calculator will give you. Your body, recognizing that you're getting less energy tries to run it more energy-efficiently.

Your metabolism goes UP considerably in the first few days without food.

Citation Needed

Quiet you European peasant

Anyone who starts delving into the literature on weight-loss at all will find that conventional dietary advice has an abysmal track record.

That's not a citation

Youre over reacting, you can have things in moderation but most young overweight people i find dont have the disipline. I only found this when i was 16 (20 now) and i still slip up sometimes for a few weeks.

>5"8'
>162lbs
>no diet what so ever
>eat crap foods + drink crap drinks
How do I do it? Midnight runs.

Running during day
>hot af
>sweat like a mofo = water leaves body to cool body
>barely do a mile without feeling like you're about to pass out

Run at night
>no sweat what so ever
>body burns calories to be used to maintain a warm body temp
>run for much longer = higher and more consistent heart rate = out for longer = burn more calories

It's literally so fucking easy I did a 5 mile jog earlier. I easily burn whatever I ate throughout the day, that's unless I pig the fuck out, at which point I burn most of what I ate. But I rarely do that so it's all cool.

Goal? 154lbs. I wear short running shorts and a running tank top and go running anywhere between 6PM and 11PM. I get some funny lucks, but fuck it I've figured it out.

"WAH! ALL I CAN EAT ARE SUGARS AND CARBS BECAUSE THEY'RE STAPLES!"

Eat fewer carbs. Eat more MEAT! Eat below your TDEE by 10-15%. You'll lose weight.

And practice Fork Putdowns.

I already cited an article ITT, there's a book called The Obesity Code which is written by a doctor that clinically treats Type II diabetes patients that lays all of this out.

>Fork Putdowns
How many reps/sets?

Your retarded. One meal with carbs don’t exceed 100gs.

You CAN eat whatever the fuck you want, you just CAN'T eat as much as you want. You have to keep eating under your calorie maintenance. Meaning you can eat a sloppy 12 inch meat feat, you just can't eat anything else the entire day, then tomorrow you can eat the suggery sweetest sweets you can find, you just have to limit yourself to how many you can eat.

Moderation

>Eat more MEAT!
Why be a disease ridden faggot when you can eat soy or if you aren't a lowcarb queer BEANS?

I find when I crap foods I can't work out, feel lethargic and gross so I try to stay away from junk now. I work out at night too. best way to train.

breakfast:
Eggs+avacado
Snack:
Shake+fruit
Lunch:
Meat+bit of rice+veggies
Dinner:
Shake+ whatever

You should still eat rice or whatever. Just don't eat a lot of it.

posting in a troll thread but to any fat guys who might be lurking and are having trouble:

Tomorrow, eat your day's calories in a four hour window.

Get your 2k cal or whatever number you've come up with into you in a four hour window. Don't eat a single fucking thing after that until the same window the next day. Water/coffee/diet pop is alright during the rest of the day.

It really works. The hodge twins started out calling themselves the fasting twins.

Vegan bait or not i swear to god im so tired of you and your endless shitty vegan threads.

do you put sauce in your salad?

it comes with a little serving of a dressing. people usually put too much dressing in their salads.

>cut carbs

Don't fall for a meme just eat a balanced diet ya twat.

Stop eating, you are neither special nor unique.

switch banana with orange

Understand you are you’re worst enemy. You probably drink soda.

All of them

more calories in then out. That fucking simple

Intermittent fasting is literally so easy and you can have nice meals, again if you’re a fatty it’ll be hard. But I’ve been having. A double bacon and egg roll for breakfast and a steak and two sausages of a night and I went from 130kg in October 2017 to 115.5 January with a lot of drinking and partying in between which means a lot of nights where you just go over board but really you gotta jistnwork it out the day after. Hopefully I’ll be 100 by the end of this month cause I got nothing happening. Just get into the Rythmn of eating at select times and making sure it’s somethkng that’s let you loose weight the day before. But always lift and the days you can’t lift go for long walks to somewhere you’d usually drive to. Listening to something to fill that time of course not being bored, I listen to the old compilations on YouTube of Collin Quinn and Robert Kelly’s podcast because they were both really fat at the time and it’s motivating in terms of listening to something when your really trying to keep up the not eating mindset.

stop falling for white girl fad diets
lower calorie count, burn more calories than you consume, not that difficult
don't listen to the "DON'T ANY LITERALLY ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR QUINOA AND SALADS" folks it will just make you miserable
keto diets or mostly to help people with issues like diabetes and pcos, obvious theres health benefits but if your only goal is to lose weight then just burn more calories than you consume

are you employed?

you must have no responsibilities

why do you ask that?

At least you can gain weight. I can eat 10 mcdoubles everyday and only gain like a Fuckin pound every other week.

dude moron stop worrying about what you’re eating and just ducking PUMP son. all the food will got to getting bulked boyyyyyy

Becuase you eat so little.

I would eat very little and bide my time not eating if I was unemployed.

That's how I lost weight as a teen.

Working a soul sucking 9-5 job makes you hungrier.

oh no I have money but that much food is ok. I cant workout on a full stomach. I do work retail.

>lift hard
>gain muscle endurance
>play sports
>eat cleaner (and a little less)
>lose fat
Is not hard

Ah, that's good actually.

I used to work in retail, the physical aspects were great.

> walked all day
> busy work keeps the mind off of eating
> quick breaks, hard to stuff your face

Desk jobs are fucking cancer my dude....but they pay the bills.

also less eating out makes my paycheck fatter lol. only money I spend is on salads, and herbalife.

I work a shitty job lifting boxes all day that weigh upwards of 20kg. Not really a huge amount of weight compared to what Veeky Forums lifts, but when you're lifting them up and trying to stack them so that you pick up 200 of them an hour, it's pretty tiring.

All I eat is a can of tuna and 4 rice cakes with a protein shake with 2 SCOOPS for my lunch, but I usually only work up to 6 hours a day.

Just fucking die already.

It's actually pretty easy.
I'm down to 238 from 318 and all i did was fast here and there.

just eat normal portions. you don't have to starve yourself. just eat normally, you end up wasting away muscle and store fat when you starve yourself because you're body goes into emergency mode.

Listen to these people. The amount of people that forsake the sticky sicken me. Read it. It’ll tell you = Carbs aren’t evil. No proof that keto or other dads work better. Calories in/calories out. Whole grain breads listed under specific foods you should eat section

>being a wagecuck

Follow my advice brother
> No sugar ( not even fruits)
> No oil NO FUCKING oil
> No butter
> no sauce

And if you want to do cardio don't run that's fucking stupid, jump the rope.

Good luck.

>Weigh 158lbs/72kg
>5'10"
>Want to cut down to 132lbs/60kg

So should I just eat nothing buy meat and vegetables? No flavoring, just plain? Can I just stay below the amount of calories I need to eat a day to lose weight and work off any excess and be fine? I need to eat below like 1800 calories a day to lose weight.

>"Why do you want to be that skinny?"
I'm skinnyfat right now and can't afford to go to the gym or build up muscle properly. I'd rather be skinny (which does suit me at least) as fuck than skinnyfat if I can't be juicy. When I can afford to work out properly, then I will be building muscle.

I workout and I don't go to the gym, you dont need a membership to run a few laps around the track, do sit ups or even pushups. all you need is vigorous exercise.

I do stuff like that now, I mean I can't afford to buy equipment or go to the gym to make big gains.

you dont need equipmeny for that bro, just push yourself, and the ways you can do that are endless, whether you're pushing yourself for that last rep of pushups, burpies, etc.

no this is not true.
Fat is stored as energy reserves not muscle. The body uses that fat reserves when there is no food. Only when you have no more fat does it start using muscle as energy

it doesn't, starving yourself doesnt do your body good. body will eat muscle first and store fat because when you go without food your body stores food as fat becaus it doesn't know when you will eat next, it's a safety valve last resort thing

our prehistoric ancestors only ate once a week if they were lucky. our bodies aren't retarded.There is a reason why it stores fat. If what you say is true then humans wouldn't be around to this day.

I'd call you a dense piece of shit, but fat is actually less dense.

It doesn't matter what you fucking eat, just eat less.

as a fat fuck, working out isn't gonna save your ass. you just need to eat less.

fucking degenerate

You're going to lose your hair going into that weight at that height.

60kg isn't underweight at that height.

Eggs are pretty good dude, add quark and chicken and you will have well enough protons

I'll never understand why people don't just eat normal food, but less

As lame as it sounds, my wife sent me some "Pintrest" recipies for when I'm working out of town and they have pretty much anything you can think of

How do I know you aren't an intermediate lifter? good luck maintaining your gains and lowering your bodyfat "eating normal food - but less" fucking dyels on this board I swear to god

user, look up water fasting. Fully serious

muh dik

Fork Putdowns x F

>lifting for nearly a year, start at 310lbs
>manage diet to point where I'm at around 1800 cal a day
>burning around 3200 cal a day
>weight holding at around 250 at 6 foot 1
>have power but still look like a fat lard

When will i gain definition, why can't I get below 250, what the fuck is happening to me

you're dense

no he is right. you are retarded

This. And get some fucking exercise