/fraud/ - Hunger edition

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Read all of:
reddit.com/r/steroids/wiki/index
before even thinking about asking your absolutely retarded questions. Also, include:
age
height
BF%
weight
time spent lifting

Even as internet doctors we can't tell you how to dose your AI.

Oral only cycles are awesome and you're awesome for considering them.

ABSOLUTELY NO SOURCE TALK.

Previous genital thread: veekyforums.com/thread/45331455/health

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youtube.com/watch?v=j-nTOtxKB5I
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ironmagazine.com/2011/aromasin-exemestane-explained/
i.4cdn.org/wsg/1521032753197.webm

DeathDog
DeathDog

nigger

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Are ab vacuums a meme?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Thoghts on test 500 + sdrol?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

No that was the previous thread.

Somehow
Used to do it and it didn't do much.
If you want to train your transverse just do standing ab wheel rollouts.
Read somewhere it was pretty useless unless you were training for a bb contest.

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Booteefool
Booteefool

I think so, I've been using a Dyson Cyclone V10 on my abs lately and I haven't gotten any results. It does get the crumbs out of my stomach hair though so that's nice.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Jej

Nojokur
Nojokur

if i use steroids will i get someone to love me? serious question

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I haven't :(

Booteefool
Booteefool

i'm sorry man

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Question to all DYEL tripfags.Why do you really feel the need to trip?

StonedTime
StonedTime

wtf why should i roid if this doesn't work?

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New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Because Veeky Forums cares about who they are.

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Skullbone
Skullbone

Best way to strictly get a girl's number between sets?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Mostly to help people keep up with my shitposts and also so I don't have to explain the entire story of my bnc everytime I need advice. I don't understand why people dislike trips so much, just ignore the ones you don't like.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I like to keep certain conversations going and give out advice.
Used to be just a name to make things easier and to filter me in case of shit advice.
Got copied a few times so added a tripcode.

SniperWish
SniperWish

lolno

Only thing being on gear helps you with is hooking up. You look good and have a crazy libido, but gear isn’t going to build a personality. If you want something long term, go join a book club; there’s nothing but loneliness and body dysmorphia to be found here.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Yeah but maybe if I look good enough then someone will love me.

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CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I need to get myself a bear like that

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I will love you if you use steroids user. I love all of my children.

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TalkBomber
TalkBomber

I used to have a ebar like that until one of my dogs fucked a hole in the ass. He was a good boy but man did he need to get fixed.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

that sucks. after knowing what love is i'm willing to do anything to get it.

not yet, i'm still researching safe first cycles.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What THE Fff?!?!where r his ribs

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

What's the rough efficiency of pharma Vs ugl? Like mg to mg?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Varies from lab to lab, what a retarded question.

There are UGLs with pharma tier concentration, but good luck finding them.

TechHater
TechHater

tfw on week 5 of basic Test-E cycle
tfw roiding-for-this mode
tfw my chest just looks better but arms are still small
tfw weight gone up regardless
tfw don't look more muscular or bloated
what am I doing wrong

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Emberfire
Emberfire

Week 5

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

If you find a reputable ugl it should be 1:1

Bidwell
Bidwell

why don't you post some before / after pics nigger

girlDog
girlDog

nah nigga I started after only half a year of lifting. I don't want those kind's of (you)'s

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

What's the deal with deca dick? Is it only when you don't run cruise test and get shut down?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Good test base.
Good oral for gains.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

My scale that I use to weight out my preworkout got miscalibrated somehow. Gonna be bouncing off the walls breh.

The raw powder tastes really good too it’s watermelon and tastes like the watermelon jolly rancher

Techpill
Techpill

Hey man I'm pretty DYEL too but am looking to roid as well. Would really appreciate pics I promise I won't make fun of you

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TurtleCat
TurtleCat

so It's easier for me to bully them by name

No only if you look good, otherwise nobody will give a shit about you. It's the same with animals. Do you want an ugly dyel animal? NO. Look at the animal shelter all ugly dyel animals stay behind. Survival of the fittest

You have to love yourself, that's more important than being loved.

Just don't use it

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

I forget, what all are you running right now?

viagrandad
viagrandad

40mg dbol
800mg test-e
350 mg mast-e

thinking about upping to 1 gram test-e for once in my life and leave dyel mode behind

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Do it. Entertain us.

DeathDog
DeathDog

I don't want masT to die, even though he always makes fun of me it would make me very sad ;-;

Supergrass
Supergrass

Yo we need roiders for the Veeky Forums meet
January 2019 thailand.
We don't want the other boards to mock us if we look dyel

viagrandad
viagrandad

Veeky Forums meet
the fuck is even gonna happen there

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

'i got aids from a ladyboy' PT. 2

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

I need first more test, since i only have 3 vials left

what is most you have run?

Your life would have no meaning without me

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I'd be more worried for the pajeets around him.

This is the wrong place to look for big people.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I've ran 750mg max, I convert horribly so I prefer running less converting compounds alongside.

Booteefool
Booteefool

I will make my inspiration masT proud one day. Is it stupid to jump on gear without even lifting for a year? Srs

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Flameblow
Flameblow

I'd say it's subjective. Most people will tell you you need to lift for a few years before hopping on but a lot of other will say natty lifting is retarded and to hop on as soon as possible.

I have no strong opinions either way, and even if I did would you take my advice? I wouldn't

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

I would go to this but I don't think that being seen at a gathering of anime fags trying to fuck Thai lady-boys would be good for my public image.

whereismyname
whereismyname

I was on test before I even lifted. Zero regrets.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Zozzle

Inmate
Inmate

Im already way behind, started lifting in november from skelly mode.i have made some progress but im getting old (almost 21) and noone cares if you're big asf in your 30s, i want to make most of it now that im still young. Would test only fuck me up that badly? Thanks for your input i appreciate it.

Cant tell if youre being srs or not

hairygrape
hairygrape

I had mine fixed and he still fucked the shit out of everything

Illusionz
Illusionz

im getting old
(almost 21)
wew
Just wait a bit, you won't stop aging.

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Dreamworx
Dreamworx

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Currently considering starting with the Test E cycle from the reddit wiki. Is the general consensus here that it's a worthwhile starter cycle?

Also, does it have positive impact on mood by chance?

King_Martha
King_Martha

Stats:

29
6'1
18% (gonna keep cutting before cycle)
218
on and off for 6 years

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

im getting old (almost 21)
noone cares if you're big asf in your 30s

I'll be nice because you've been nice to me but both of these points are wrong. Also I think test only would be fine.

takes2long
takes2long

noone cares if you're big asf in your 30s
Lol that's not true though.
When you're that old you'll enjoy more sexual preference still, as well as better health.
That's actually when, imo, you start shining the most, since people who lived on their good looks based entirely on being skinny and young start to turn to shit.
Beer bellies and skeleton arms, fat round faces, heavy passive breathing, all those will be theirs.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Is it worth cutting on my first cycle? Eat at maintenance or at a slight deficit, I'd still gain mass probably right?

5mileys
5mileys

Very much this

Techpill
Techpill

Havent thought of it this way.Its kind of hard making such decision when you have basically noone to talk to about it, all of my friends are not into bodybuilding or even lifting for that matter, so to them everything would sound absurd.

RavySnake
RavySnake

week 5
I notice 0 aesthetic changes until week 9-10 with test E.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

You had 0 aesthetic changes in general dyel cuck

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

youtube.com/watch?v=j-nTOtxKB5I

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I joined the discord but won't go cause I have a qt gf. Might if things don't work out some how but at 3 months dating I have a good feeling we'll stay together. Also I don't roid atm so yeah.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

nah I did, they just dissapeared after cycle. I gained 13kg

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I would mogg the shit out you dyles but i am not getting to fucking Thailand

You don't get the paranoid cuck sides?

YES

Bidwell
Bidwell

hey mas post a pic btw I need one thx

idontknow
idontknow

The more I'm on, the number I get, the better I feel.

StonedTime
StonedTime

At what moment you decided you want to ascend to the next level?

Do you have a pic before you started pinning,Nano?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

this is most recent pic

jelly, the more i use the more beta i become. The less i use the more alpha i become

the day i realized i wasn't happy

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Bidwell
Bidwell

All I did was abs mostly.
It took way too much effort to photograph them.

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PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

He wasn't talking about the stuffed one

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

But im not happy either...

Damn you look big asf in this picture, how old are you again?

You had the leaness already achieved.Made serious gains since then your arms have quadrupled in size.I appreciate the honesty.How old are you now and how did you go about starting injecting, and at what age?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Time to return to that brah, i dont enjoy calling you a dyel cuck but i must

w8t4u
w8t4u

Currently 25, started at 23.
Less then 2 years of bnc.
Fucked up most of my first year not eating enough, now too much.
There is truth to lifting natty first.

I started with 21g in quads with the basic 500mg test. First pin was scary, rest was alright.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

is there a bodyweight lat exercise?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Pull ups

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Yes thats a typical begginer's cycle, probably the safest road you can choose.
So you never took time off? no pct? I've read that coming off you will lose some gains and its not worth it but im scared of completely shutting down my natural testosterone production.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

inverted rows

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

How long does eq take to kick in? I'm gonna be running it at 600mg with 800mg test but I'm frontloading my first two shots with 150% dosage for both (900 eq and 1200 test first week)

Should this noticeably affect spool up time (was gonna double up but I barely get 3ml in my syringes)

Spamalot
Spamalot

Damn. I didn't realize how much bigger you'd gotten

takes2long
takes2long

You think steroids will make you happy? You will always chase something you will never achieve. Chasing that first high.

you start with cycling, doing it safety. Eventually you will bnc for life and die by the needle. You don;t know how to live a normal life without it anymore

I look dyel af in that picture, no pump & no food. 27

iluvmen
iluvmen

At the point of starting I was set on going bnc if I liked it, so I never did a basic cycle.
The only reason I might is for kids if, god forbid, I ever want one.

Snarelure
Snarelure

meant to say tool-less bodyweight. I don't have anything to use where I am.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Neither was I, though after my dog was through with him he sure was stuffed.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thanks for the kind words.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I ran a gram of tritest and the only sides I got were water retention and an ungodly hunger wherein I'd be eating and thinking about what I could eat after the meal I was currently eating and once broke a knuckle because I ordered a kebab and it was ten minutes late so I laid into my wall

Methnerd
Methnerd

i've been crusing 1250mg test for 16 weeks should i stop and pct or something

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I'm back at 73-74kg now
also post body

Snarelure
Snarelure

I can see you are hurt in this picture

I am glad we're all different to make this world a fun place

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Steroids make me a lot more content when I'm on a blast

I just feel super positive and smile at everyone, wish cashiers a nice day etc

Unless my laptop runs slow or I get hungry

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

You should take your future pictures holding your cat for maximum aesthetics

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

cruise
1250mg
its just to replace normal testosterone levels amirite guys xD

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

So you're unhappy now? wasnt the whole reason you started because it made you feel better about yourself.I can totally see how perspective changes as you progress, people i thought were jacked before i started lifting now i see as not so impressive.Thats my secret fear to be honest, starting poisoning my body in hope of a better feeling but ending up in a endless circle of pain and doubt with no escape.That is life regardless,always strive to be the best or be nothing.

I see, a bit drastic for my taste but progress and health are on point,so keep going strong!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Not cruising at a gram and a quarter

It's like you want to lose all your gains

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

go to your friendly nearby tree and do pull ups

Evilember
Evilember

I'll never not be hurt.

Its the weirdest feedback loop that hurts the most. You get somewhat content with what you're doing, reflect, spiral back to the start to climb back to that happy point.

Its the only way, if it weren't so we'd all be content being dyel.

Spamalot
Spamalot

why don’t nano and masT liftvtogether if they’re in the same country? Netherlands is like the size of greater Los Angeles

viagrandad
viagrandad

Losing my hard earned gains and strenght right before my eyes would drive me mad. I would probably end up upping the dosages and adding more compounds in the next cycle resulting in more damage, so maybe bnc is the more rational choice.

You are a good block, why you will always be hurt? Do you feel inadequate?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Yes lets drive 1+ hour ed to just lift together not even doing the same thing.

likme
likme

Any else self destructive here? I know I’m incapable of moderation and will end up killing myself by chasing physical size when really it’s my mind that’s broken.

Methshot
Methshot

Bnc is the way to go if you want to commit long term (life).

I mostly joke around but is basically my issue.

Emberburn
Emberburn

roidfags
self-destructive

Redundant

Booteefool
Booteefool

Sometimes late at night I drink a lot then stare at my shotgun but I have the shells in a separate location so nothing ever happens.

Oh wait you meant like roid related self destruction uh no not particularly.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Mirin?

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Inmate
Inmate

I hope you're fucking joking poor cunt

Illusionz
Illusionz

Thanks for these threads Veeky Forums
Going to buy my first cycle most likely come Fall or Winter. Going for Test E, HCG, then post cycle mix which I'm still working out the 2 I want to take.
I'll start it later as I've got the proper means to store everything.

Literally just dropped in to say thanks to you all.
I'll post my current stats just to contribute a bit.
27
5'10.7" (I'm a bit Autistic. Yes, actually)
BF% I don't have an honest number. I do a few months bulk and a few cut (body responded best to it). I would say 16%At the moment and the cut is a week in.
I weigh 213lbs
Prior 4yrs and was fighting for gains. Stopped and have been back on for a short while (13months)

Anyways this thread is the main ones I hung out in. A lot of people close to me (friends and family) died in a very short period. I shut down, hard.
I sold everything but my bed. A little over a year ago I decided to get back into lifting and see what had changed and progressed (so much it's exciting).

Came to Veeky Forums but didn't post. Asshole, gayshit, and underlying kindness sometimes. I laughed, the memes got me, and I looked forward to the distraction and motivation. My life is on a path that was better even when I was lifting all those years ago. A shit posting but often helpful Veeky Forums board happened to be what helped me the most.

Thank you all.

For those curious as to why I'm looking at steroids now. I do want that extra something to push myself further as the dedication I have felt towards everything I do now is amazing. I also live a life alone. It's just me left, no friends or anything. The boost will help me alot as hunting, moving (as in moving out), can be a bit difficult sometimes and I would like to have a bit more of an advantage with that as well.

Just having a break at work and figured I really wanted to thank you all. Even if some of the people don t come here anymore.

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Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

My source has a few different Test E's at various prices. TE-300, Restostyl, etc. How do I know which one to order?

TreeEater
TreeEater

What's your girth?

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I'd suggest you put steroid to the side for a bit until you are more stable emotionally.Just reading all of this told me you still have unsettled shit in you and playing with your hormones might not be the best case scenario for now.Fix your life and put other priorities first, steroids wont be the answer you need to motivate yourself, noone or nothing will do it for you.Also, post physique

w8t4u
w8t4u

HCG isnt to be run as a cycle you dumb nigger

Firespawn
Firespawn

Do sunbeds fix acne? My chest and shoulders broke out horribly on my first cruise and while clearasil pads keep it under control it's still bad

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Do sunbeds fix acne?

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BinaryMan
BinaryMan

no, it just makes you exisiting acne less visible.

Get accutane, trust me you will be trying to for months to get rid of it and nothing will 100% work, except accutane

FastChef
FastChef

Running hcg on cycle will do nothing beyond burn money and risk further damage to your hpta

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

I've heard it can help

I'd rather have acne than trash my body with accutane

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

you dont trash anything if you ruin a low dosage

farquit
farquit

Of course it's a joke, drinking on roids would be dumb.

happy_sad
happy_sad

Been off of the lifting for a while, looking to get back into it and want a boost. Not looking for super huge gains. Have taken msten before with good results.
27
6'1"
15
190
4 nights a week

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likme
likme

roiding to make up for lack of previous commitment
trash-tier

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

He can take hcg while on cycle you dumber nigger.

It's fine on low dosage. Shouldn't be run for more than a few months probably. Ie a standard 16 week cycle would be okay. Though I'd recommend just running it the last 4-6 weeks or so if he does decide on using it.

Like other guy said not sure if steroids is the answer but winter is still a long time ahead. Glad you are doing okay.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

if i've done test e before does my body retain ability to strengthen better after a while?

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

he wants to use it to get more gains but thats retarded you use hcg to recover your balls and not make gains so go back to africa you black nigger

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

For real? I've been doing as much research as I can. I guess that s the issue with internet research. Seen HCG in favor as a safety net. Clearly I need to continue looking and researching (not like I planned to stop).

I got my life back on track pretty well. The losses happened quite awhile ago. I sat within denial stage for a lengthy time until I broke one day. Furnished the house I'm renting, doing well money wise (at that happy medium with opprotunity to grow in the comapny) and waiting a bit before I build a computer. Got myself a lot of hobbies I've been working on for a bit now. Got back into painting, building (built my own little workout cage with help of YouTube tutorials), miniature painting, bought myself a car I've been working and learning on, and just over all got myself back on track. The lifting has pushed me, I really forgot the almost high it gives.

Just had to come and thank this board for being an aid. The actual cycle I'm looking at starting the cycle early 2019 but purchasing earlier. Want to get over the 2year mark.

MPmaster
MPmaster

No I don't. I want Test E for gains.
HCG as a safety net / ball insurance. This would be my first cycle. If I was going to run for gains I would be looking into things like adding dbol as some cycles show.

likme
likme

May I ask why the last 4-6?
There was alot of debate on this exact thing during my browsing. Some said that, some said start it week 1.

I tried to pick sources that were updated/ responded to in 2017 at the oldest.

SniperWish
SniperWish

You shouldn't have any need for hcg cycling off a basic beginners cycle

Honestly take the money and invest it in high quality food and maybe phenibut or zma to encourage better sleep
These are the real key to recovery along with time and solid pct

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Thank you I appreciate this and am writing it down in my journal. Yes I still pen and paper things.

My food quality is okay.
Hunting season, gardening, and some local farmers supply a decent bulk of items (including eggs). Something my dad taught me and I kept up with living my life this way.

Of course there's items that come from the grocery store. I try to match price to ingredient lists. I get there's organic peanut butter but damn it I like paying half the price for chunky jiffy PB.

Meat is mostly red. Poultry is limited to grouse, pheasant, and lean turkey. I don't know any Turkey Farmers so I buy that. I do a trade for chicken during hunting season with my butcher.

eGremlin
eGremlin

I'm two weeks in and have the flu, not slept in 3 days, it gets better right?

Booteefool
Booteefool

Can I get an insight on t-levels?

got bloodwork done and it's the following:
4.02 ng/mL TOTAL TESTOSTERONE
10.90 pg/mL FREE TESTOSTERONE

hairygrape
hairygrape

How does one achieve no-organ mode?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

The devil has spoken!

cum2soon
cum2soon

Reason being if you're just cycling and not BnC it doesn't take that that long (and also just a low dosage) to start your balls back up if you start at like week 10 of the cycle. (Or sooner if you go for 12 weeks). There is a lot of debate about receptor downgredation from HCG is actually an issue but too little research on steroid cycles to make any definitive claims.

When you shut down natural test production you are per definition doing 'some' permanent damage to your balls. At the same time running HCG for too long at too high dosages (higher/longer=more) will cause receptor downgredation that is unlikely to recover, meaning also some type of irreversible damage.
If you only run like 200IU the trigger for the Leydig cells is not that high that it's way overshooting natural levels, so in theory no/limited downgredation should occur. The fact is though that with 4-6 weeks people recover perfectly (hell even just regular PCT does the job ). My reasoning is in those 10 weeks the balls are shut down is there gonna occur that much damage that it would be worth it to run HCG as a preventative measure? I don't believe so. So just that last part is fine.

You're basically getting your balls back in working order and sensitive to LH, then the PCT will trigger GnRH release and the axis will smoothly recover to it's normal state.

likme
likme

so I used a calculator and it's

402 ng/dl total test
1.09 ng/dl free test

22 years old, healthy male that is a buff ottermode

is this bad? I did some research and it seems shit's on par of a 60year old
I'm scheduling an appointment with a doctor and if he refuses then guess I gotta go /fraud/

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Snarelure
Snarelure

Randomly sweating a shitton and have a horrible headache while lifting today wat do

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

You are not gonna get TRT with those numbers senpai

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

dehydration

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

that's what I kinda figured out based on lurking Veeky Forums all this time

are they bad though? if yeah then I guess I gotta start researching on how to run a TRT

Bidwell
Bidwell

It's within the normal range so you won't get on TRT for it. You'd do better to unfuck your diet/make sure y ou're actually sleeping enough. Unless you want to /fraud/, if so be my guest.

RavySnake
RavySnake

well I eat clean 99% of the time, shit load vegetables, fruits ,meat and fish, eggs
I'm even autistic when stuff like canned tuna has oils and other added shit, I make sure its just tuna + water.

I also sleep around 8h minimum

pic related was at the end of my cut before I had gyno surgery(not sure if caused by the supposed low t or being an obese fuck as a kid)

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Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

100 to 200 mg a week would be a TRT dose, your levels are low normal range but the real question is are you suffering from lowt synthoms? Did you have estro tested? If you want to roid do it but if you dont feel like it and are okay dont bother bb

Soft_member
Soft_member

Did you ever lactate?
Asking for a friend

Have you had your vitamin d levels checked? Are you getting enough saturated fat/cholestrol?

eGremlin
eGremlin

are you suffering from lowt synthoms?

I feel tired and unmotivated most of the time and played around highschool changing courses and shit so only now I'm finishing one leftover class so I can go to uni and sort shit out, and I have no fucking reason to feel like that, I took benzos 5 years ago so treat some anxiety attacks so might have influenced? no clue

only recently my libido went up
I have a decent/amazing body by normal people standard
Have a gf
I'm rich

so I don't get it, I even feel bad about feeling bad.

Did you have estro tested
nope, just my regular blood work and free + total testosterone

thanks for the help

kek thank god no

nope but I've been taking a vit d supplement for quite some time, and it's high does 5000IU per day

I get around 25-30% fats on my diet, mostly from olive oil and eggs which I basically have at least one daily, then fatty meats/fish, butter and rarely peanut butter due to the high omega 6 concentration

I also supp zinc(ZMA) from time to time on those days I feel I didn't eat much food that had decent zinc concentration

massdebater
massdebater

I feel like that even on roids desu maybe try a cycle and see if you would like to leave humanity behind

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PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Wtf why can't we talk sources here??

whereismyname
whereismyname

You can, mods will ban you though.

Shit man you can roid if you want to, just don't expect exogenous test to fix your existential malaise.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

You got me

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Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

How do you guys go about fixing an abdominal imbalance? It's fucking my posture up but for the most part it has gone fairly unnoticed. It's just I can feel my right side compensating way too much.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Holy Toledo that's quite a manlet

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

is there something other than e2 that can make your nips itch?

Techpill
Techpill

Thinking of starting my first cycle soon. I'm 6'2, currently 240lbs at ~23 bf. Over the past six years I've been as low as 170lbs and everywhere in between my current weight, and no matter what, I'm always doomed to skinnyfat purgatory, even when I make decent gains. Granted, my lifting has been on and off due to work, but it's still incredibly frustrating to be unable to shed the gyno even when the rest of my body is at spoopy skeleton bf.

My cautious side is telling me to start at 250mg test E, but at the same time I'm worried it may not be enough to make much of a difference in 8 weeks. Should I start with 500mg, given my body mass? Obviously I'd run an AI, most likely Arimidex, and PCT would be probably be clomid for 6 weeks.

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girlDog
girlDog

home brew
not home extraction, synthesis and production of powder from scratch by filtering Mast's sweat

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

500mg test E 12 weeks
clomid and nolvadex for 4 weeks
if youre gonna shut yourself down at least get the most out of it fuck 8 weeks

hairygrape
hairygrape

Mosquito bites

happy_sad
happy_sad

dont listen to this retard

do 16 weeks. 12 weeks is nothing

idontknow
idontknow

desu waste of time with 500mg test you can do 12 weeks a 4 week cruise and then expand your options

Soft_member
Soft_member

240lbs at ~23 bf
CUT
U
T

My cautious side is telling me to start at 250mg test E
that's cruising dose

I'm worried it may not be enough to make much of a difference in 8 weeks
i doubt that 1 gram of test would do much in 8 weeks, it's not enough time because it takes at least 8 weeks for test to fully saturate your blood

Should I start with 500mg, given my body mass?
mass has nothing to do with it but your body fat is way too high

PCT
the magic word right here

since you want to CYCLE i say you shouldn't do this until you are lean enough. Start now and you will get even fatter since you have to eat big to get big and you won't see a difference because you are too fat to notice any small changes, not to mention that you will probably lose "all" your gains after coming off. Gear is not magic and your first cycle most likely will be very underwhelming because every natty has his dream vision of getting swole right after he starts injecting chinese bathub chemicals into his buttcheeks. If you would like to blast and cruise into infinity i would recommend starting your cut while on 250mg and after you lean out bump up to 500mg and go for 15 weeks bulk, then go down to 250mg and cut again, then you can try doing slow lean bulk on 250mg or blast again.

I recommend taking the roid pill and going down the rabbit hole because once you start there is no coming back.

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Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Thanks bros. I will take these words to heart. 12-16 weeks it is, and I'll try to get down to at least 215 before I start.

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

Welp. Just dropped a good bit on raws for the summer. Gonna run:

500test
750tren e (750-1g tren a kick start)
750mast e
Maybe do 1g EQ
100 proviron ED

Cycle orals e4w between
Var
Drol
SD

RIP in peace hair. I hardly knew ye

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Emberfire
Emberfire

I got cellulitis in my left nipple the day after I started superdrol and read about guys getting bad gyno so I was kinda freaked out but when I went to the urgent care they said it was just an infection somehow

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

just ordered my dbol test and npp
starting bulk at 93kg, got an event in a month, is it reasonable to aim for 100kg by then? wanna be a balloon

likme
likme

How big are you now? That's a fuckton of gear

SniperGod
SniperGod

is it reasonable to aim for 100kg by then?
if you are not on anyhing right now you will most likely hit 100kg in first week with on dbol+test

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Smoll.

6’3 230 right now. I’d like to get 250 while keeping the abs at least

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's on par with a 60 year old because age related decline of test is only minimal you fucking memefaggot. If you want to roid go ahead but don't start with this low test fucking bullshit. Reference values are established in healthy young men not fucking elderly.
Most of your other blood values are in range with elderly I don't hear you fucking complaining about that?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Running steroids will not get rid of your gyno it could only make it worse at your bf%. Cut first but if you can't even get yourself to work out regularly you shouldn't roid.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

200mg test, on a cut, carb depleted

SniperWish
SniperWish

Give me a single reason not to give my gf anavar

TreeEater
TreeEater

Just ask her assuming she already lifts. No sides, no pct, lots of booty gains. Girls have it easy when it comes to roids.

RavySnake
RavySnake

she’s never lifted in her life and she’s 95 lbs

Lunatick
Lunatick

95lbs

C-can I have her? I’ve always wanted a cute skinny gf.

But seriously if she doesn’t want to lift or gain muscle/a nice ass then she likely isn’t going to be open to trying.

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AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

why even wear a top at this point? shes flatter than a 12 year old boy

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Yes that is true, but what i meant by that is you think you will be happy if you achieved that what you wanted to achieve. But then when you have it you want more and more. It's an never ending cycling. You will never be happy with that what you have because you will always see new flaws.

I wouldn't advice it. When she goes off it will turn into a nightmare for you. Their recovery is much longer and harsher than us. Libido will gone for months

cum2soon
cum2soon

How does your low back feel today captain catback?

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Slightly better. Feels ok during the day when i walk like a penguin. But during the night when i wake up it hurts like hell

Couldn't do squats yesterday only sitting leg exercises on light weight

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

mast hurting his back

You don't lift heavy, right? What even happened?

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

My stomach used to protrude a lot but after a year of vacuums that shit is flat as hell. true story anons

Supergrass
Supergrass

Yeah i do lift heavy during bulk. First i did dead lift and then bent over rows heavy and then i made a wrong move which fucked up my back.

probably didn't arched my back good enough during rows

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

コンバンワホモたち

Thinking of ordering mast because masT is such a flaming raving faggot about it. But it seems worthless to me. Change my mind.
I'm an attention whore. Despite how much trash gets talked about me, I honestly get high off it. It doesn't matter whether it's negative, positive, constructive or destructive.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Whats your big 3 max stats?

Inmate
Inmate

Then post current physique and i promise you will get a whole bunch of yous and all the attention you ever wanted.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

I'm more hesitant to do that now because I do in fact value the opinions of some people on here. Like Nano, Trenboy, Apoc, PC etc. I don't want to disappoint them.

As for anons, I find it funny.

SniperGod
SniperGod

mfw you realize that applies to everyone and people only care about certain people :C

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

elitefitness.com/forum/women-s-fitness-(female-bodybuilding-training)/guide-physique-enhancement-302279.html

Make her read that and then decide.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Hey you too, me too. I mostly like the negativity get's me hard in the morning. Harder than my morning woods

160 kg bench, 120 kg ohp, 180kg squats

RumChicken
RumChicken

Okay. I'm not sure of your point.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Funny thing about that. I'm in the military and my job prevents me from lifting as much as I'd like to. On deployment last year, the dumb nigger in charge of me declared that working out during our 12 hour shifts was forbidden for everyone except his pet nigger who was on gear at the time. In half a year I went from a fairly lean 200 to 230 because my opportunities to work out were so limited (12 hour shifts often turn in to 16+ depending on what's going on). Once I returned to my parent command, they put me on the fat boy program where you do meme tier workouts four days a week and since then I've actually gained weight. The best part? I still pass their stupid PT tests with ease, but they keep me on it because I'm within 1 percent bf from failure.

Can't wait to get out of the totally pozzed service, where legitimately obese sheboons are within standards because they have fat necks and guys like me are considered to be fat pieces of shit because they prevent me from working out how I need to be. I am kind of kicking myself for not pinning years ago when I realized that was why so many guys I knew were out lifting me. At the same time, I know at least one of them is facing some serious health issues now and he got kicked out because someone snitched on him, but hey, he could lift himself into his rack from a pipe, so good for him.

I was hoping to start during my two months of terminal leave, but after some further research it does seem like 12 weeks is best for a first cycle. Also, I am well aware of the risks of aromatization, which is why I'd take an AI alongside test E (probably aromasin).

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

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5mileys
5mileys

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likme
likme

Yeah even when you take AI if you're fat estrogen will be hard to manage (+it's your first time so you don't know your dosages). Also blowing up to 230 because you can't workout is not an excuse. You gain fat from diet. You could just eat less. Either way it's up to you I'm just saying this because I legitimately think you should first cut and then think about roids.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

You have no idea how bad the food is in the military lol

I agree that I should cut, I've already said I will. Main reason aromasin looks more appealing to me than arimidex is due to how much harder it is to crash E2 while on it.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Reminder to do your bloodwork.
I'll post specifics later but being on the flu wrecked my health big time, combined with this absurd stack.

I'll be cruising for a few weeks to get back on a healthy path.

Please like, share and subscribe for more blogposts.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

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Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

i went up ~5kg in a week going from 250mg to 600mg test, add dbol and you will get bloatmaxxed in no time

Methnerd
Methnerd

I don't want to disappoint them.
lmao

What did you expect running tren. I am not even doing blood work during blasts, you know they're fucked anyway.

i am only doing bloods after blasts/before new blasts

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

Do you like azns masT?

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

No they all look the same to me. Nothing attractive about putting a fucking octopus into your pussy

white female, dark hair and light eyes is god-tier combo. Blond is also shit-tier

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Are you planning to compete in bb mast?

JunkTop
JunkTop

They all look the same to me too. So they all look cute. Isn't that great?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

No i am not good enough

You only like them because you watch too much of that anime porn. It's cancer to the brain

White is superior

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I like whites and east-asians. Everything else just looks unclean to me.

iluvmen
iluvmen

he's a fucking freak, not a gay ass bodybuilder. You think he would place high with his hitler kanonen arms? Bodybuilding is all about proportions and leannes. Why would anyone want to sacrifice muscle and get shredded to get a plastic trophy? Become a fucking freak instead.

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RavySnake
RavySnake

There's a model on IG that follows me and she has an octopus?? Octopussy I guess tattoo of tentacles unfurling from her pussy. Really strange that you can't look away when she twerks and these tentacles are writhing.

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Soft_member
Soft_member

I want to see you get fucked by a black tranny with 10x9

tfw no roelly genetics. Life would be lots easier

Looking great especially shaven.

Always when i think about Asian woman i think about those crazy videos they put an octopus in their pussy and stuff

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

ive read it's because most (live?) porn in Japan is funded through organized crime and they predicate on younger girls that owe debts. Sounds intriguing if nothing else. And thanks I'm never shaving again my legs look amazing but what a nightmare.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Ah yes, posting funny may mays. The patrician response.

I'm sure you benched and squatted 3pl, were less than 10 percent bf and correctly dosed everything before your first cycle. I bet you're a chef at Wendy's with a 9 inch dick making six figures a year, too.

ironmagazine.com/2011/aromasin-exemestane-explained/

In other words, Exemestane, by being structurally similar to the target of the enzymes, permanently binds to those enzymes, thereby preventing them from ever completing their task of converting androgens into estrogens. When we compare this mode of action against other AI’s the benefit becomes clear. Arimidex can unbind from the aromatase enzyme when you stop taking it but Aromasin will not. Therefore, there is less chance of estrogen rebound with Aromasin.

Unless I'm interpreting this wrong, it'd be much easier to start with a smaller dose of aromasin and work your way up accordingly than it would be to do the same with arimidex because of the increased risk of side effects both on and off cycle.

w8t4u
w8t4u

I really wouldn't like that.

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DeathDog
DeathDog

I saw that people even pay money for them watching them eat. Fucking cuck culture, that's why crusader likes it

You can also trim it. Shaving legs hurts af when you put on pants

Even better

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Yeah dude but it's no different from the booming cam/findom culture of the west

whereismyname
whereismyname

Girls don't eat food.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Are you still with the same girl you showed the pics from?

It will only make them fat anyway

MPmaster
MPmaster

Yeah we're happy and chill. Zero ruckus ever. Fun sex, relaxed home life.

Bidwell
Bidwell

What kind of fun sex?

She seemed like the girl that likes bondage, domination and getting hurt

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

She is so that kind. Had a threesome a few weeks ago. Fun lady, she's zero percent jealous and patient as can be. Really hard worker in the gym too.

Firespawn
Firespawn

fuck mirin, how do you find another woman for a threesome?

WebTool
WebTool

Tinder. Just found a cute nerdy girl we both found fun looking, and it went from there.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

But do you make a profile with you both then or what? What you say in the bio

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Actually I think my bio says I'm looking for female talent at the moment. That's how our convo started was her commending my porn because she recognized me. Anyways it's a tinder bio no one reads them. Don't worry about it. I just tell girls I'm happily in a relationship although sometimes we invite a third. They don't care.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Fuck rich wasn't kidding about the 'makes your dick look bigger' thing

Keep stealing off to the toilets in work to admire

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

You mean HGH?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Conflicting feels that I've never had any sort of atrophy. Don't know whether it's good or bad.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Woman watch gay porn?

Yeah i know but how do you know she knows you both want a threesome then

So you basically just use your own profile and then talk her into a threesome?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Nah the roid balls making it look bigger

Boldenone gives me an erection like an iron bar wrapped in mooring ropes tho

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

wait you guys roid but still have shit bodies? i thought it was a wonderdrug. guessed wrong I

Booteefool
Booteefool

Basically all of that. I don't do any convincing. I just tell them what's up point blank and they can take it or leave it. It's not a big deal either way. Usually it plays out where you small talk and they feel comfy so they slip out a personal detail that's maybe really intimate or possibly ugly, and then I just reciprocate and we play ball.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

You wish you had only 0.00001% of my genetics. cuck cancer face

Damn. But does she also plays with your girl then?

I can't imagine your girl wouldn't get jealous

whereismyname
whereismyname

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lostmypassword
lostmypassword

I have never heard someone be called cancer face. Stellar. To your question, everyone was having too much fun to feel anything but fun. No harsh feelings.

Considering playing Nioh again, although restarting from scratch. or maybe putting time into witcher 3. Witcher seems wicked boring.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

First cycle: Test+ anavar. Does it make sense to start with test and then around week 6 start on var? Or does that drag it out too long? Better to just run the test, pct, then run var?

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It's pretty common to say in the Netherlands actually. Cancer face, cancer mouth, cancer head etc.

fuck mirin. I want to do the same actually but i am worried it will probably ruin our relationship.

I quit Nioh for some time now. Was now at that raining Forrest where you fight that lightning dog again. Witcher is crap, too much dialogues. I actually wanted to play those Dlc from dark souls but didn't play it on ps4 before

The new god of war will be the game for the alpha males. Coming April 20.

viagrandad
viagrandad

We also have small dicks, poorly repressed homosexuality and shitty personalities

Illusionz
Illusionz

The new god of war will be the game for the alpha males. Coming April 20.
Hahhahahhaaha you mean my wife's son of war?

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

No they are wonderdrugs. I'm just lazy and autistic.

Playboyize
Playboyize

Lol

SniperGod
SniperGod

They tried something new, but the gameplay looked really good imo. It's still fucking brute. That's why i love it.

You can't keep making the same games while still overwhelming people.

JunkTop
JunkTop

The gameplay looked like a watered down Lords of the Fallen.
All the hack and slash is gone for poor copy pasted gameplay.

Have you tried Doom yet?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Roiding for this :(

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Nojokur
Nojokur

Explain this then.
i.4cdn.org/wsg/1521032753197.webm

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Booteefool
Booteefool

Yeah because they want to try something new. You can't keeping the same type of games and expect people to still playing them. They already make like 4 god of wares the same way. People will get bored and won't play it anymore

Doom really good , i loved it. Also because i used to play Quake 3 arena a lot

lmao that you?

Inmate
Inmate

It looks like they went for the Last of Us audience. But enjoy the game, its not my job to rob you of the fun.

Ever tried getting into monster hunter?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I'll never understand how some people can vacuum in so deeply.

StonedTime
StonedTime

This is cute. I feel valued.

Git strong masT, CMON

DOOM BFG Division OST is the sickest tune to lift to.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I also digged the hack and slash more. But i also admire the balls they have to try something new and still be good at it. Not like that fucking Gabe newell that will never release HL3

but muhhh steam money

Seems like a weird game

whereismyname
whereismyname

Being able to vomit on command is impressive. I wonder if there's some sort of food she eats for that to be possible.

I like her hair, Japanese girls with the front bangs and the long side things, VERY CUTE

I'm not cute...

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haveahappyday
haveahappyday

ROID RAGE! ROID RAAAAGE!!!!!!

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cum2soon
cum2soon

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Illusionz
Illusionz

i thought it was a wonderdrug
1. because it isn't a wonderdrug,

only ones who repeat this bullshit are natties. I would love to be able to drop fat and build muscle at the same time but unfortunately it can't be done even on steroids. Inb4 tren, it doesn't count because it's too toxic and gains are not that great. If i could run it year round on a effective dose without any major sides it would be a wonderdrug.

2. it's all about genetics, i don't know how many times this has to be said

Inmate
Inmate

Doom ost is great.

implying half life 3 would even live up to hype
I would have prefered god of war cranking the gore and violence up even more then usual.

Monster hunter is great, you hunt these huge cocky cunts that you brutally slaughter as they limp away in the end.

likme
likme

fucking losers

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

What roids do I need to look like Jeff

StonedTime
StonedTime

You are the cutest guy I know. No homo.

FastChef
FastChef

Only muscle atrophy when you came off amirite

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

damn finally found a new cool hanging lamp for my apartment, only 200 euro's. Everytime i see something nice it's fucking expensive

glad i am not a poorfag like you guys

True me too. But they want to speak to another audience. In the end it's all about the money

Ok will look into that game

He looks like a cute twink perfect for gay porn

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Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

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Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Bloods are fine after yk11 with adrol and 1g test(just cause Im working in u)
What I noticed from dropping yk11 is the lossof hunger, less pumps, and less energy in the gym. I felt like I could do infinite sets, now its more realistic and I feel myself really pushing to finish up

Thanks to compartment syndrome Ive given up everything lower body so its hard to quantify how much my lifts went up but im mid 190s from 157 after 10ish weeks

I wish that was me.

happy_sad
happy_sad

How long ago did you quit YK? Any changes in body weight?

Bidwell
Bidwell

I stopped yk11 2 weeks ago, my heaviest on yk11 was 198, so a few lbs

iluvmen
iluvmen

Will you have rgb lighting in the lamp?

hairygrape
hairygrape

Anyone else have ED issues on nolva?? currently 2 weeks into pct running Sup3r pct along side. Ive had no issues until the other night, when I went out for a couple drinks with a chick and it lead to heading down the river to fuck and I couldn't get it up. I've never had this issue before, was so frustrating. Finally did after alot of effort but was no where near rock hard. Usually I start hooking up and I'm ready to go.
Also slept with a chick 4 days earlier so just over a week in pct and was fine. Just libido was a tad down

Evilember
Evilember

imagine the perfect lighting pictures

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Firespawn
Firespawn

Are you mid 190s now?
How do you rate it

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