How is the Lore/Fluff?

That's easy bro, Tomb kings are Empire of Dust, in the Uncharted Empires books, while Wood Elves you can use two list, Forces of natures if you want or Elves. Vampire Counts are better as Undead, Orcs and Goblins it depends of what do you have more, both are they own list but you can ally 25% of your list from other armies with the same alignament so isn't that bad. High elves are Elves, Dark Elves Twilight Kin, and Empire or Kingdoms of Men or League of Rhodia (it's the empire with even more halfings), Bretonia can be Kingdoms of Men or the Brotherhood, the later is better tough.

So just how popular is Kings of War? I've been wanting to get back into the hobby and was considering trying it out since WHFB was dropped. Will I have more luck finding KoW games at my LGS or people still playing 8th/Trying 9th? I want to jump back in and I'd rather avoid AoS but I want to be able to actually get games.

Every reply to this is going to be anecdotal as fuck, but I see more people playing KoW then AoS at my FLGS. Part of that is probably due to Australia tax on GW products, general anti-GW sentiment, and the store having a huge range of cheap reaper stuff everyone is excited to use.

I sort of figured it would be, but I wanted to get a general feel for it. Also, so you can use models outside the range? That along with the "your dudes" part of it people were mentioning was attractive to me.

> so you can use models outside the range?
That in particular made it an obvious choice for WHFB refugees. Shit, I didn't even play WHFB, but I already had 2 armies from my brother's old stuff, and my LOTR stuff from when I was a teenager. Bought 2 more armies super cheap because I get carried away, and have plans for a third, all under $200 (AU). Unheard of with GW prices.

There is no requirement whatsoever to use Mantic Miniatures. Mantic doesn't give a shit, and there is nobody to enforce it anyway.

I'm a bit disappointed in wargamers that they don't realize this is true for any game. Good on mantic for making it official and tournament support and all, but it really shouldn't be unusual.

>I like how they explain why necromancy is evil. See, when you raise a zombie from the dead, you drag a soul from the afterlife and stuff back into their corpse.

And that wasn't obvious already?

It's probably because the game by nature is generic enough to allow you to use any company's figures. There are tons of companies who make elves, dwarves, medieval soldiers and such. Steampunk robots and zombie hookers, not so much. Most games are just made to sell that company's specific miniatures after all.

It's great as if you think that the Mantic figures are cheap and bad, then you can always just go with their GW equivalent or buy from boutique suppliers. If you want your figures to be even cheaper, then you can look at Perry and Reaper to satisfy your needs.

I know that Flames of War adopts the same stance with third party miniatures, but even that is limited by its setting as a German soldier is going to be a German soldier, whereas an Abyssal Dwarf can range from the stitchpunk Confrontation or the Japanese Dwarf Wars ones. It is great as any figure that you like can see play on the table without breaking the rules/lore.

That'a only a problem if reincarnation is the general rule of the metaphysics. Or the universe is full of souls and they just come from somewhere else.

Oh cool. A bit on the cheesy side, but I could see a lot of people liking these.

I hope they make plastic models for the not Chaos Warriors army. I have been kinda wanting less over the top Frazetta barbarians than the one GW has been making for years now.

It didn't typically work like that in Warhammer Fantasy. There the necromancers would most of the time just inject magic into a dead body.