>The end of the story is pretty simple. There are no deep reasons behind disliking elves
Let's take a look at the original problem post, to ensure we're all on the same page.
>So is this a dumb counter meme where you come up with cartoonish armchair psychology and pretend elf hate wasn't born from bad fantasy authors using them as opionated mouthpieces and old school elf players whining about them being underpowered?
The implication here is that "elf hate" was born from something other than idiots without enough problems in their lives. It also is an attempt to say "No, your armchair psychology is somehow inferior to my personal brand of armchair psychology."
>Second, I never ever said their reasons for doing something were valid or just. Only why they exist. Let's not play semantics here. If you offer up a contrary opinion in an attempt to dismiss another, you can't really backpedal to say "I never said it was valid." You seem to think those reasons are more valid than the opinion that the elf haters were bullied by popular kids or that elf haters are short and ugly, and I'm going have to point out, once again, that no, they are all equally valid. Because they are all equally stupid.
These Elf Hate people hate elves largely for the same reason I hate fava beans. Trying to correlate some sort of trend or to establish some line of rationality behind what largely amounts to a preference is silly, just as silly as trying to say I hate fava beans because I hate Silence of the Lambs.
Jack Gutierrez
The examples I offered were examples I've heard and they aren't exclusive to elves. They pop up in some way or another elsewhere. Note, I wasn't saying those were *the* reasons someone hates elves just ones that followed a common pattern and is cited by people who dislike elves. Our conclusions are are roughly the same, actually. I'll outline it below.
>Let's not play semantics here. If you offer up a contrary opinion in an attempt to dismiss another, you can't really backpedal to say "I never said it was valid."
I wasn't backpedaling there. Valid as in 'it's a decent/justifiable reason to do XYZ'. Because you seemed to think I was excusing their behavior with it. Explaining someone's behavior and supporting it are different things is what I was getting at.
>These Elf Hate people hate elves largely for the same reason I hate fava beans. Trying to correlate some sort of trend or to establish some line of rationality behind what largely amounts to a preference is silly, just as silly as trying to say I hate fava beans because I hate Silence of the Lambs.
Okay. For the most part I've been saying the same thing. I can TL;DR it as 'people hate elves for the same reason people hate anything in fiction'. But the most common things you'll hear for why someone hates something usually amounts to "I had a bad experience" or "it became popular to hate it". That's what I've been getting at. Yeah, no shit it's not going to be this way 100% of time. Holy shit. If I knew I'd be typing this shit hours later I would have just put the TL;DR text instead then tell them to fuck off with their dumb shit.
Blake Thompson
I made a half-elf monk called Mickey Knife Ears once.
Dylan Green
I agree, elf haters are the kind of retards who are unable to come up with a plausible scenario where the elves they can imagine, aren't better than the dwarves they can imagine. Yet they persist to secretly want elves around to hate, even though the logic and common sense we all share say that delicate beautiful and sensitive elves are the best parts of humanity, and dwarves are almost by definition the parts of humanity that only a callous fascist could tolerate existing, hmm do i want to mine all day so we can have a bit more gold and iron? Or should I teach the children to respect all life and exist as a part of nature, in harmony with my rivals instead of constantly trying to horde more shit to kill off any competition?
Tyler Phillips
>STILL spouting your elf propaganda and yet you wonder why everyone hates knife ears.
Ryder Ortiz
>knife ears
Is that a compliment?
Michael Myers
If we're being fair here Tolkien wanted both elves and dwarves to be a message. Both kind of at the expense of elves and dwarves. With elves it's more about why being born into perfection is not necessarily a good thing and ennui, etc. etc. etc. Not something you have to agree with personally but the elves were intended as a lesson just like the dwarves were.
If we're going into D&D, dwarves aren't all that bad since they're Gimli clones. Yes they're greedy and while they have the bad parts of conservative values they have the good orderly parts as well. They're industrious, have a well oiled social order, care about their elders and ancestors, groom their beards and so on. They're really not neckbeards in this sense. I mean NEET and industrious don't go together.
Juan Edwards
Oh no. Not this again.
Yes, I'm going to take your ears and use them as eating utensils!
